Iran

[Tim Steelersfan]

Protected? No, you take out power plants, civilians eventually die as hospitals, water treatment, and food distribution is severely impacted.

Translation: You WANT the Iranian people to remain under oppression. You don't care about women's rights and advocate them being stoned to death for showing their hair and being raped for not wearing a hijab. And you're ok with the IRGC slaughtering 40,000+ civilians who went out to protest.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

you've previously stated that you work at a medical facility, and as such made vague reference to that facility as being a hospital. Does that particular hospital NOT have a backup generator, as nearly every goddamned hospital on the face of the planet does, to prevent power disruption during surgeries and to patients?

No, no, no. Don't fall for his trap. He's like Hamas - oh the poor civilians. Propaganda.

This is 100% on the Iranians. Give in, change, adhere to new rules, be peaceful neighbors. If you don't, your infrastructure will be destroyed to incapacitate you.

Civilian casualties are then on Iran. Not on the USA.

 

[Superman]

 

[Confluence]

Google Susan Kolkinda for her ongoing American version of same.

 

[jitter77]

you've previously stated that you work at a medical facility, and as such made vague reference to that facility as being a hospital. Does that particular hospital NOT have a backup generator, as nearly every goddamned hospital on the face of the planet does, to prevent power disruption during surgeries and to patients?

Backup generators are not meant as a long term solution and might not run the whole facility. The generators need fuel to run and if bridges / oil is destroyed it will be difficult to keep them going. I work in a medical facility and yes a generator is required, but at my facility it is bare bones (emergency lights, fire system, IT stuff, heating, door security, and several red outlets.) Our walk in cooler / freezer is not even on emergency power.

 

[Hypocycloids]

Backup generators are not meant as a long term solution and might not run the whole facility. The generators need fuel to run and if bridges / oil is destroyed it will be difficult to keep them going. I work in a medical facility and yes a generator is required, but at my facility it is bare bones (emergency lights, fire system, IT stuff, heating, door security, and several red outlets.) Our walk in cooler / freezer is not even on emergency power.

Where is your hospital? In Iran?
Depending on what is stored, hospital coolers and freezers are required to be on backup power.

Generators may not run the entire facility, but are required for all critical areas.

Prioritizing Power
During an outage, generators may not power the entire building. They prioritize the Essential Electrical System (EES), which includes:

• Life Safety Branch: Egress lighting, fire alarms, and emergency communication.
• Critical Branch: Intensive Care Units (ICUs), operating rooms, neonatal care, and life-support machines.
• Equipment Branch: Essential mechanical systems like specific elevators, medical air compressors, and refrigeration for vaccines and blood supplies.
  Woodstock Power +3

 

[Superman]

Where is your hospital? In Iran?
Depending on what is stored, hospital coolers and freezers are required to be on backup power.

Generators may not run the entire facility, but are required for all critical areas.

Prioritizing Power
During an outage, generators may not power the entire building. They prioritize the Essential Electrical System (EES), which includes:

• Life Safety Branch: Egress lighting, fire alarms, and emergency communication.
• Critical Branch: Intensive Care Units (ICUs), operating rooms, neonatal care, and life-support machines.
• Equipment Branch: Essential mechanical systems like specific elevators, medical air compressors, and refrigeration for vaccines and blood supplies.
  Woodstock Power +3

jitter's hospital was the epicenter for the entire CoviDem crisis, too.

 

[Troglodyte]

you've previously stated that you work at a medical facility, and as such made vague reference to that facility as being a hospital. Does that particular hospital NOT have a backup generator, as nearly every goddamned hospital on the face of the planet does, to prevent power disruption during surgeries and to patients?

Yes, for short term outages. Someone would have to be a ******* idiot to think a hospital could rely on a backup generator indefinitely.

 

[Troglodyte]

No son, your reading comprehension sucks. I've not once disagreed with you that Iranians would need help. And that we would need help. Not once. You THINK I have because you make **** up in your head when you get yourself confused and lost after the 2nd reply.

Right, now do Americans.

The Afghans started off ARMED. And they got help.
The Iranians are getting help but are NOT armed.

Read that 17 times, slowly.

Wha, wha, whaaat??? They needed help even though they were already armed?

Read that 17 times slowly.

An unarmed populace never has a chance to defend itself. Armed populaces do, and have.


What????? I'll take an American hunter, an avid shooter, or a redneck over a caveman any day. We are in a BETTER position than having to rely on Afghan cavemen.

They were awfully sensitive when Cracker Barrel changed its logo, I think they’d struggle living in a remote cave without electricity and cable.

Queue the reading comprehension comment again...

You pull out a word, obfuscate it, and ignore the rest of the reply. We would need and get help, that's for sure. And being armed - being the world's largest Army - we would fare very well.

Lose an argument, insist that “perhaps” doesn’t express uncertainty.

 

[Troglodyte]

Translation: You WANT the Iranian people to remain under oppression. You don't care about women's rights and advocate them being stoned to death for showing their hair and being raped for not wearing a hijab. And you're ok with the IRGC slaughtering 40,000+ civilians who went out to protest.

As Trump takes ceasefire terms from Iran’s theocratic Islamic regime. Spare me!

 

[Superman]

Yes, for short term outages. Someone would have to be a ******* idiot to think a hospital could rely on a backup generator indefinitely.

i dont recall where anyone said "indefinitely", drama queen

 

[Superman]

As Trump takes ceasefire terms from Iran’s theocratic Islamic regime. Spare me!

the one you support. because Trump.

 

[Steelr4evr]

Leaders are eliminated. We are about 6 layers down now. New guy says I will negonegotiate with Trump. Thug points gun at new guys head and says no. So new guy either gets killed by fellow Iranian for negotiating or gets killed by US for not negotiating.

Rock....hard place.

They need a full on coup by the citizens and any military you can turn.

The nujobs in charge are not going to let all that has taken place in the last 5 weeks or so just go.

There's no turning back on these people now. Arm and organize the citizens and let them do the dirty work.

This is a group who's been screaming death to America and Israel for the last 47 years. They arm all of the radicals and have been attacking us for damn near all of that 47 years.

 

[Steelr4evr]

Translation: You WANT the Iranian people to remain under oppression. You don't care about women's rights and advocate them being stoned to death for showing their hair and being raped for not wearing a hijab. And you're ok with the IRGC slaughtering 40,000+ civilians who went out to protest.

He's a dumbass,don't waste your breath. Any government that would murder that many of it's own citizens, is one beyond redemption.

They do understand violence and brutality very well. They live and breath it daily,and without any remorse whatsoever.

The civilians need armed,organized and given targets. It's the perfect time to do so,IF they truly want freedom from oppression.

You can damn sure believe they'll be getting slaughtered as payback if they don't.

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

Right, now do Americans.

I already have. Try reading.

Wha, wha, whaaat??? They needed help even though they were already armed?

Read that 17 times slowly.

France and England needed help even though they had a military...

You've confused yourself so much now, you've again forgotten the topic...which you started...when you inadvertently supported the 2A. Iran has NO chance given they are unarmed. They would have a better chance if they were. Prove me wrong (you've failed for pages now).

They were awfully sensitive when Cracker Barrel changed its logo

Who was? This ought to be interesting.

I think they’d struggle living in a remote cave without electricity and cable.

It's like projecting your stupidity is a goal you wake up with each morning.

Lose an argument, insist that “perhaps” doesn’t express uncertainty.

As has been established here ad infinitum, your ability to read and comprehend rivals that of a first grader (when you actually do choose to read).

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

As Trump takes ceasefire terms from Iran’s theocratic Islamic regime. Spare me!

Of course you didn't disagree with what I wrote and you advocate for the continual oppression of the Iranian people

You're the problem.

 

[xjx]

I really don't think this belief will ever be uprooted. If you chop it down to the ground....give it about 15 years....it'll be back.

 

[KentuckySteeler]

Liberal media made the Soleimani nieces feel so entitled that they could get away with anything anti-American here in the sates. Now they are holding hands in front of a power plant somewhere in Iran, lol.

 

[Superman]

MizFlog going away...

 

[Troglodyte]

i dont recall where anyone said "indefinitely", drama queen

Someone would have to be an idiot to think blowing up power plants would only cause short term power outages that could be handled by backup generators.

 

[Troglodyte]

Of course you didn't disagree with what I wrote and you advocate for the continual oppression of the Iranian people

You're the problem.

I didn’t support a war that killed 1,700 civilians including 250 children and 15 U.S. service members. You did.

You’re the problem.

 

[Superman]

Someone would have to be an idiot to think blowing up power plants would only cause short term power outages that could be handled by backup generators.

and somehow you equate a short term outage as being decades long... and equate a threat as something that never should happen, lest the ones being threatened negotiate to prevent it from happening.

let me guess - you would have sent them another C-130 filled with pallets of cash to stop their uranium enrichment.

 

[jitter77]

Where is your hospital? In Iran?
Depending on what is stored, hospital coolers and freezers are required to be on backup power.

Generators may not run the entire facility, but are required for all critical areas.

Prioritizing Power
During an outage, generators may not power the entire building. They prioritize the Essential Electrical System (EES), which includes:

• Life Safety Branch: Egress lighting, fire alarms, and emergency communication.
• Critical Branch: Intensive Care Units (ICUs), operating rooms, neonatal care, and life-support machines.
• Equipment Branch: Essential mechanical systems like specific elevators, medical air compressors, and refrigeration for vaccines and blood supplies.
  Woodstock Power +3

I'm in a nursing home but this basically what we follow. Our vaccine fridge is on emergency power. For food we have a 3 day supply of stuff, and in case of an extended outage will have refrigerated trucks come in.

 

[Superman]

I'm in a nursing home but this basically what we follow. Our vaccine fridge is on emergency power. For food we have a 3 day supply of stuff, and in case of an extended outage will have refrigerated trucks come in.

ah, so there are redundant checks in place to assure things stay operational at minimum.
per Flog, nothing like that can or should ever be considered. at all. ever. not even due to natural disaster emgergencies.