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Iran

Djfan said:
Part of the reason I support him like I do is because the alternatives are beyond abysmal. He screws up, he does great. He is what he is.

Not a chance the bar fly was worth poop on a stick.

It makes voting easy, and depressing. I told anyone who would listen that the choice was obvious, so I held my nose and voted the only choice a rational person could make. Trump.
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See, this is where the majority here line of thinking is. You, Sarge, OFTB, etc. can have a discussion on issues that aren't being addressed to our satisfaction while still being able to acknowledge policies that do benefit everyone in the country. A few here look up into the night sky, see the stars but not the light. We're not halfway through Trumps term and I hold out hope that Iran gets resolved. As far as Epstein goes, I honestly have no clue what to believe. Midterms will be huge and dictate the direction of this country.
 
Troglodyte said:
Tell me where he’s wrong.

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Don't care. The alternatives to Trump were worse than trash, so he was the only vote. Simple.

Now I'm done. I will not respond to you about this anymore.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
See, this is where the majority here line of thinking is. You, Sarge, OFTB, etc. can have a discussion on issues that aren't being addressed to our satisfaction while still being able to acknowledge policies that do benefit everyone in the country. A few here look up into the night sky, see the stars but not the light. We're not halfway through Trumps term and I hold out hope that Iran gets resolved. As far as Epstein goes, I honestly have no clue what to believe. Midterms will be huge and dictate the direction of this country.
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Regarding Epstein, It's being withheld just like the dems did with it when they had all the chips.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
See, this is where the majority here line of thinking is. You, Sarge, OFTB, etc. can have a discussion on issues that aren't being addressed to our satisfaction while still being able to acknowledge policies that do benefit everyone in the country. A few here look up into the night sky, see the stars but not the light. We're not halfway through Trumps term and I hold out hope that Iran gets resolved. As far as Epstein goes, I honestly have no clue what to believe. Midterms will be huge and dictate the direction of this country.
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What would you consider a resolution in Iran? I think anything short of complete regime change and physically getting the uranium out would be a failure. At this point I don't see that as being realistic unless this gets drug out for years. I only see 3 solutions. If we do basically unfiltered bombing, but that is going to create a humanitarian issue along with making more enemies. We can do ground troops which could get very ugly due many reasons. Last option is pack up and just leave things as they are. I don't see Trump doing that because he would have to admit he made a mistake. I don't see any sort of diplomatic resolution with the current leadership. I think they would rather have the country destroyed than give up the uranium and what not
 
Sarge said:
I get it, because I’m in the same boat. My issue is the people that never take issue with anything. Trump, no matter what he does or says is right and just and there is no other way to see it. You’re a commie libtard if you think anything else. To me that’s the problem.

I’ve voted for Trump three times, only because the alternative is nothing I can in good conscience vote for. This term of Trump’s has actually made me question my vote for the first time ever, mainly because of the Iran nonsense and the Epstein files.

There’s no reason not to release the Epstein files in full, and there’s no reason to be in this bullshiit with Iran.
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This is exactly how I feel, if you point out his bullshit somehow you are now labeled a liberal. I have voted conservative my whole life but now because I don't bow to the Don I am a liberal. my response is go **** yourself.

I voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils this last time,but I told my son even though I voted for him the third time I knew this term would be a money grab and the swamp would remain. so far I have been right. what ******* sitting president sues the IRS for ten billion dollars because his taxes were leaked. Now him nor his family can NEVER be audited nor any of his business or people associated with them can never be audited. Give me a break.

The problem we have in this country is there are no critical or logical thinkers. Did he get the boarder under control Yes he did. did he go after illegals, yes he did. does he have us in a war with no ******* idea of what he is doing. yes he does, is our economy a mess yes it is. has him and his family made more money in the last year than than they ever have off the decisions he has made from the oval office, yes they have. does the **** that's happening under a republican controlled congress make moderate conservatives scratch their damn heads. yes it does.

Johnson standing up in front of the American people that can barley make bills, saying congress $174,500 a year salary isn't enough for them to support their families, which anyone that has any type of thinking skills knows this is a base salary and every damn one of them is on some type of committee making another 30K plus not counting lobbying money. so they not only need a 25% raise but should be allowed to insider trade is a ******* embarrassment and an insult to Americans. Tariff money going to corporations instead of the Americans that actually paid them is a blatant slap in the face.

Politicians have always been crooked as a snake, but it's like they don't even care if you know how bad they are ******* you anymore. I truly fear for the future of my kids and grand-kids.
 
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Djfan said:
Don't care. The alternatives to Trump were worse than trash, so he was the only vote. Simple.

Now I'm done. I will not respond to you about this anymore.
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The Whitehouse wouldn’t be for sale and we wouldn’t have blatant corruption without Trump. We are much worse off than we were in December 2024.
 
Troglodyte said:
The Whitehouse wouldn’t be for sale and we wouldn’t have blatant corruption without Trump. We are much worse off than we were in December 2024.
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The White House has been for sale and corruption has run rampant throughout the federal government for decades. Saying it’s this person or that side is stupid. It’s amazing what people are willing to accept as long as the right people are doing it.
 
Sarge said:
The White House has been for sale and corruption has run rampant throughout the federal government for decades. Saying it’s this person or that side is stupid. It’s amazing what people are willing to accept as long as the right people are doing it.
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There's the point.

The uni-party has made too many think that they are on the right side of history, and the others are on the wrong side, when in fact all are being lead down a crap path. We need a complete cleansing of the scum in DC. I doubt it will happen, and so the nation will rot.
 
Sarge said:
The White House has been for sale and corruption has run rampant throughout the federal government for decades. Saying it’s this person or that side is stupid. It’s amazing what people are willing to accept as long as the right people are doing it.
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Bullshit, utter bullshit. Provide an example of anything even close to the anti-weaponization fund scam,

Provide examples from prior presidencies to the corruption below.

 
Sarge said:
The White House has been for sale and corruption has run rampant throughout the federal government for decades. Saying it’s this person or that side is stupid. It’s amazing what people are willing to accept as long as the right people are doing it.
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No because Hunter Bidon never got foreign money and never funneled any of that back to sleepy joe daddy. and don't get me started on how much money Obama left with.
 
jitter77 said:
What would you consider a resolution in Iran? I think anything short of complete regime change and physically getting the uranium out would be a failure. At this point I don't see that as being realistic unless this gets drug out for years. I only see 3 solutions. If we do basically unfiltered bombing, but that is going to create a humanitarian issue along with making more enemies. We can do ground troops which could get very ugly due many reasons. Last option is pack up and just leave things as they are. I don't see Trump doing that because he would have to admit he made a mistake. I don't see any sort of diplomatic resolution with the current leadership. I think they would rather have the country destroyed than give up the uranium and what not
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It could be done quicky, but the screaming optics from the media and political left would be deafening.
Time to pick a side, do you want this to be over or not?
This country hasn't entered a conflict with the will to win since WW eleven.
My personal experience on a swift boat in SE Asia was a political joke, and it's only gotten worse since then with politicians getting in the way and the liberal media holding their water.

Trump is trying to negotiate with Iran, but that's like trying to reason with a liberal.

We have the opportunity to free Iran or withdraw with our tail between our legs like Vietnam and Afghanistan. There is no in-between.
 
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