Iran

[Confluence]

Wow absolutely amazing 1/3 of ships can get through with some taking damage along with the USA having to use massive resources to do so. I also believe this is a modified route going through the Oman side. If you want to count that as a big win then go for it. It doesn't change the fact that the straight should have been one of the top priorities as soon as this mess started.

It's counter to your spoonfed msm narrative and so you choose to be negative.

Whether you like it or not, the US is now controlling the flow of the available and marginal supplies of oil around the globe.

That is a incredible, beneficial and hugely strategic accomplishment that seems almost completed.

What if they actually got the nukes last year and this was just about the oil?

 

[jitter77]

If it was just about the oil then securing the straight should have been priority 1 after taking out defenses. We did not really attempt to secure the straight till long after the fact and have wasted billions of dollars doing so. We still have to escort tankers with ships and helicopters 5-6 months after we annihilated Iran for the second time in a year. I was not against going after Iran, but our plan or lack there of has been terrible.

 

[Superman]

It's counter to your spoonfed msm narrative and so you choose to be negative.

Whether you like it or not, the US is now controlling the flow of the available and marginal supplies of oil around the globe.

That is a incredible, beneficial and hugely strategic accomplishment that seems almost completed.

What if they actually got the nukes last year and this was just about the oil?

pfffft. as if.
had iran completed a nuke, the IAEA would have called Flog and reported it directly to ze. then we'd all know. since that didn't happen, we can rest assured that iran does not have nukes and thus has negative nuke aspirations. they just want a way to create energy for their people.

 

[Sarge]

If it was just about the oil then securing the straight should have been priority 1 after taking out defenses. We did not really attempt to secure the straight till long after the fact and have wasted billions of dollars doing so. We still have to escort tankers with ships and helicopters 5-6 months after we annihilated Iran for the second time in a year. I was not against going after Iran, but our plan or lack there of has been terrible.

We annihilated Iran no fewer than six times, five this year alone. They were beautiful annihilations, just beautiful. Best annihilations ever, believe me.

 

[steel dino]

We annihilated Iran no fewer than six times, five this year alone. They were beautiful annihilations, just beautiful. Best annihilations ever, believe me.

I thought it was seven?
Maybe I’m just glass half full kind of guy..

 

[Sarge]

I thought it was seven?
Maybe I’m just glass half full kind of guy..

We absolutely annihilated their nuclear program last summer so thoroughly that in February they were once again just weeks from developing a nuclear weapon. So we went in there and annihilated Iran so many times that they still have the capability to lob missiles all over the Middle East, drone strike wherever, whenever and whomever they choose and maintain control of the Strait of Hormuz.

To follow up that unprecedented success, we are now going to impose the “toughest sanctions in history” because we annihilated them so good. I’m sure this will be yet another resounding success.

 

[SojournerSteel]

We absolutely annihilated their nuclear program last summer so thoroughly that in February they were once again just weeks from developing a nuclear weapon. So we went in there and annihilated Iran so many times that they still have the capability to lob missiles all over the Middle East, drone strike wherever, whenever and whomever they choose and maintain control of the Strait of Hormuz.

To follow up that unprecedented success, we are now going to impose the “toughest sanctions in history” because we annihilated them so good. I’m sure this will be yet another resounding success.

"They want to make a deal so badly! They're dying to make a deal."

 

[xjx]

This standstill will last until Xi meets with Trump. That is when the real deal will be brokered. Id say its a 50/50 chance it goes our way. China has many strongholds.

 

[Sarge]

"They want to make a deal so badly! They're dying to make a deal."

They’re making Trump look impotent. I mean, the guy steps on his own land mines without much help from time to time, but Iran played him over and over. Made him look like a sucker. He has to do better going forward.

 

[Badcat]

We absolutely annihilated their nuclear program last summer so thoroughly that in February they were once again just weeks from developing a nuclear weapon. So we went in there and annihilated Iran so many times that they still have the capability to lob missiles all over the Middle East, drone strike wherever, whenever and whomever they choose and maintain control of the Strait of Hormuz.

To follow up that unprecedented success, we are now going to impose the “toughest sanctions in history” because we annihilated them so good. I’m sure this will be yet another resounding success.

"They want to make a deal so badly! They're dying to make a deal."

They're on their hands and knees just begging for a deal!! This administration is a ******* joke. A few attempts on one's life and he turns into Jewish puppet.

 

[jitter77]

They're on their hands and knees just begging for a deal!! This administration is a ******* joke. A few attempts on one's life and he turns into Jewish puppet.

I think Trump's ego just got the best of them. He expected Iran just to give up. I also think they rushed the attack based on the Israeli intelligence and didn't have a full plan. We had a signed agreement with multiple countries that Trump ripped up. If he wanted to play hardball he could have started by getting countries to comply with that deal. If allies / Iran would not comply then we could have escalated action.

 

[Badcat]

I think Trump's ego just got the best of them. He expected Iran just to give up. I also think they rushed the attack based on the Israeli intelligence and didn't have a full plan. We had a signed agreement with multiple countries that Trump ripped up. If he wanted to play hardball he could have started by getting countries to comply with that deal. If allies / Iran would not comply then we could have escalated action.

There is no question that his ego is hyper-inflated, it always has been. There is a clear difference between first term Trump and second term trump. Israel flexed and now Trump is like all the others doing their bidding, fighting wars we have no business being in. Sick of this ****.