• Please be aware we've switched the forums to their own URL. (again) You'll find the new website address to be www.steelernationforum.com Thanks
  • Please clear your private messages. Your inbox is close to being full.

Jackson Released

if they cant get sutton back maybe we can sign him to a cheaper cap number
 
F83 said:
if they cant get sutton back maybe we can sign him to a cheaper cap number
Click to expand...

NOT sure anyone wants him, bad back may never be right. What’s his speed like nowA days ?


Salute the nation
 
SteelBuckeye said:
No, not that Jackson. The Steelers have released CB William Jackson lll. The move clears $12,187,500 and moves the team to $10,409,318 under the cap,
Click to expand...

I think we originally signed him as a low risk flyer sort of chance for him to play. Not a lot of risk by the way it all played out.

I don’t try to re-sign him regardless of price, but also realize our coaches know way more on his recovery point than we ever will.

Thanks for posting SteelBuckeye and for all your great ones along the way !!! (Keep that sense of humor flowing as well)


Salute the nation
 
Drink IRON City said:
NOT sure anyone wants him, bad back may never be right. What’s his speed like nowA days ?


Salute the nation
Click to expand...
only know if if he works out for us or anyone if so to sign has to pass physical, maybe mid 4.5 good like Witherspoon be a good zone CB at times play press by jamming with over S help from someone like Kazee if back or edmunds
 
The steelers took a risk on a player they wanted to draft. He didn't get healthy enough to contribute, and fortunately the trade compensation was voided with him not being eligible to play. It will be interesting to see If the Steelers try to sign him to a 1 yr prove it deal in the $5M range. I'd take that in a heartbeat....if he's healthy.
 
madinsomniac said:
And the lifecycle of the most pointless trade ever is complete… lol
Click to expand...
Well we were effectively able to waste salary on him last year that would have been nice to rollover to this season, so there’s that 😂 classic Steeler move

But hey once Mike likes a guy he likes a guy and he sure ain’t afraid to piss money away on a sweat pants model that he likes

This was absolutely one of the dumbest trades from start to finish-just pointless
 
Stryker said:
The steelers took a risk on a player they wanted to draft. He didn't get healthy enough to contribute, and fortunately the trade compensation was voided with him not being eligible to play. It will be interesting to see If the Steelers try to sign him to a 1 yr prove it deal in the $5M range. I'd take that in a heartbeat....if he's healthy.
Click to expand...


It’s the “HEALTHY” part that is the big question.


Salute the nation
 
Fiji Mariner said:
Well we were effectively able to waste salary on him last year that would have been nice to rollover to this season, so there’s that 😂 classic Steeler move

But hey once Mike likes a guy he likes a guy and he sure ain’t afraid to piss money away on a sweat pants model that he likes

This was absolutely one of the dumbest trades from start to finish-just pointless
Click to expand...

I find it MOST odd that our team doctors couldn’t see enough to realize he couldn’t play.

I also think we didn’t have huge need, if he could have played towards the end of the season. I mean he may have been like 90% and would have played if in SB or something like that. They held him out to preserve the Sixth round pick.

As for re-signing him back, He would have to be 100% proven healthy and pass a thorough physical. I’m leaning away from A re-sign.


Salute the nation
 
bermudasteel said:
Is Coolie sad???
Click to expand...
Coolie is not sad

Coolie expected this

Coolie knows there is no way you keep WJIII with that contract

Coolie loves his Coogs but tends to be pretty honest in his evaluations of them

Coolie hopes WJIII's back is fully healed and he can be resigned for a more cap friendly contract
 
CoolieMan said:
Coolie is not sad

Coolie expected this

Coolie knows there is no way you keep WJIII with that contract

Coolie loves his Coogs but tends to be pretty honest in his evaluations of them

Coolie hopes WJIII's back is fully healed and he can be resigned for a more cap friendly contract
Click to expand...

 
I just don't understand how they make that trade without their people saying his back was good. And I don't know how ut could have been good.
 
CoolieMan said:
Coolie is not sad

Coolie expected this

Coolie knows there is no way you keep WJIII with that contract

Coolie loves his Coogs but tends to be pretty honest in his evaluations of them

Coolie hopes WJIII's back is fully healed and he can be resigned for a more cap friendly contract
Click to expand...
I dont know about the honest evals. I remember a few years back, you were pimping hat Ed Oliver guy to go in the top 10. and I think we all know how that turned out. Wait...
 
Stryker said:
The steelers took a risk on a player they wanted to draft. He didn't get healthy enough to contribute, and fortunately the trade compensation was voided with him not being eligible to play. It will be interesting to see If the Steelers try to sign him to a 1 yr prove it deal in the $5M range. I'd take that in a heartbeat....if he's healthy.
Click to expand...
Steelers were on the hook only for the salary paid to him. $2 mill plus. That was money that would have rolled over.
 
CoolieMan said:
oh boo freaking hoo

the Steelers took a show and it currently looks to have netted them nothing

it was a low risk shot at getting some CB depth
Click to expand...
I dont know. maybe he enjoyed his time here and will resign at a decent price
 
BLITZ said:
I dont know. maybe he enjoyed his time here and will resign at a decent price
Click to expand...

It will come down to if he is healthy or not.

I’m not a team doctor or trainer and I’m sure they have a way better handle on his health future.

There will not be a second offer unless they feel he is totally healthy and ready to play ….

There will be no risk reward offer, if he is signed, he will be expected to compete.


Salute the nation
 
Stryker said:
The steelers took a risk on a player they wanted to draft. He didn't get healthy enough to contribute, and fortunately the trade compensation was voided with him not being eligible to play. It will be interesting to see If the Steelers try to sign him to a 1 yr prove it deal in the $5M range. I'd take that in a heartbeat....if he's healthy.
Click to expand...
compared to the other 31 teams in the NFL, did the Steelers gain any rights/leverage on re-signing him?

After taking the cap hit, would it not have been a better decision to have passed on WJIII and paide more to retain Flores or other coaching staff?

i mean, this is a double loss: less cap room this year because of the trade, and less actual cash for other needs like asst coaches, Flores, etc.

How was this not a disaster with the Steelers losing in every single aspect?
 
The Jackson trade was bad, but Flores was leaving for a promotion not matter what. OC>whatever title he had here as well as a quicker path bad to a head coaching job.
 
Confluence said:
compared to the other 31 teams in the NFL, did the Steelers gain any rights/leverage on re-signing him?

After taking the cap hit, would it not have been a better decision to have passed on WJIII and paide more to retain Flores or other coaching staff?

i mean, this is a double loss: less cap room this year because of the trade, and less actual cash for other needs like asst coaches, Flores, etc.

How was this not a disaster with the Steelers losing in every single aspect?
Click to expand...
Player contracts and cap room have NO impact on coaches/assistant salaries. Their contracts are non-inclusive to the salary cap. The trade was a very low risk for PIT. They only sacrificed about 2x the minimum yearly salary of a vested player.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top