Joey Porter Jr.............................. not dad

[Steelmann]

The league forced them to divest their horse racing and gambling operations a while ago because it was a bad look for the league to have *cough* owners involved in gambling *cough* so as I recall that stuff got handed off to other family members not connected to the Steelers.

It wasn’t that long ago when any talk about having a team in Vegas was shut down completely because of the bad look it would give the league because of the image of gambling. Now every second commercial on TV during a sports event is a gambling add it seams. Not to mention how gambling adds have absolutely ruined finding sports streaming on the internet. It’s a ******* invasion. Remember not that long ago it was porn/sex pop up’s. Now it’s all gambling. What big corporation controls porn/gambling? How the times have changed.

 

[BLITZ]

You must be too old and senile to remember how things ended with Troy. Go look it up

I remember well. He was one of the best steelers of all time. But his playing style caught up with him. His injuries caused a shortened career. Sad.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Stop playing games trying to pacify his entitled *** and start fining him. If he wants to sit out the year, let him. Franchise his *** next year, if he wants to sit out again, see who wants a DB that hasn't played in 2 years. See how long he can go on not making any money.

If ONLY Art the flaccid could play hard ball
He’s more of a softie tho

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Well that just means a cheap offense. They use the cap up to the top every year, that doesn't make them cheap or not

Spot on

They spend their cap and still rake in hundreds of millions annually.

Art the flaccid isn’t cheap, or poor
Does his allocation of assets blow, sure
But that’s a whole other can of worms

He could easily afford JpJ and if JpJ isn’t over valuing his worth past history shows he probably would sign off on him …maybe Art the flaccid is finally realizing that endlessly pissing money into a defense in an offensive league is a failing strategy

BUT more than likely a greedy agent and Dad are throwing a left handed monkey wrench into the machine, I’d bet on that scenario over Art the flaccid learning anything about team building

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

It is a fact. Look it up if you don't believe me

The reason you stated, is not a fact it is your opinion of why they did what they did.

 

[Drink IRON City]

What happens if the Steelers put him on the non-football related injury list, and I can only assume his injury (cough) is just that, does he still get a game check?

I t5hought it happened in early training camp.?




Salute the nation

 

[Troglodyte]

I think that's the consensus of everyone not named Porter. I get trying to get the best deal for yourself that you can, but Jr may well be destroying his future in the process.

Being a year+ removed from your last playing time isn’t a good look, injury or not.

 

[Steelmann]

I said this quite sometime ago. It’s just a gut feeling. With the amount of guaranteed money some of these players are getting will they have the drive,focus,heart to try to be #1 ? Or will play slowly but surely falter off. In Joey’s case I think he falters off. Gut feeling. While some of you like to use Bell as an example,I thought the same about him. These fully guaranteed 60,80,100 million contracts are no good for the sport. Incentive laden contracts would be so much better with of course team/player performance as the gold lining. Remember one of the huge contracts from years gone by when Washington signed Albert Haynesworth? One of the first huge guaranteed contracts at the time. I just laughed at the time. You knew that guy was going to coast for the rest of his football life.
I am waiting for the day a team files a suit against the player for non expectation performance. Demanding 30% back.

 

[Drink IRON City]

I said this quite sometime ago. It’s just a gut feeling. With the amount of guaranteed money some of these players are getting will they have the drive,focus,heart to try to be #1 ? Or will play slowly but surely falter off. In Joey’s case I think he falters off. Gut feeling. While some of you like to use Bell as an example,I thought the same about him. These fully guaranteed 60,80,100 million contracts are no good for the sport. Incentive laden contracts would be so much better with of course team/player performance as the gold lining. Remember one of the huge contracts from years gone by when Washington signed Albert Haynesworth? One of the first huge guaranteed contracts at the time. I just laughed at the time. You knew that guy was going to coast for the rest of his football life.
I am waiting for the day a team files a suit against the player for non expectation performance. Demanding 30% back.

I have often been concerned in the near same factor. Give the man fish he eats for the day……. Make him earn that fish daily, he eats for life.

It’s not just the drive to be the best, but age has some to do with it as well, add in injury and optimal performance is affected.

When you pay for the best, you should get the best, but many times a year / two later you have a fallen off player. (TJ is an example, hope he can keep the boost for awhile yet).

Incentive Leiden contracts in both favor would be more viable in the long run.

If all the side **** was cut out and they went with fully guaranteed (with injury clauses) contracts, you clear this current mess right up.




Salute the nation

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

How so? Are they not worth more and have outside revenue streams?

The owners are worth slightly more and are winning way more in the playoffs and are relevant

The last 10 years the Steelers have been completely irrelevant to the playoff picture or the top of the league

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

The owners are worth slightly more and are winning way more in the playoffs and are relevant

The last 10 years the Steelers have been completely irrelevant to the playoff picture or the top of the league

Again, ignoring the point of outside revenue streams. Fine stick to your narrative. It doesn't change the reality. And those teams still haven't won the big game in that time. They only thing that really matters according to many the last 15 years or so.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

I have often been concerned in the near same factor. Give the man fish he eats for the day……. Make him earn that fish daily, he eats for life.

It’s not just the drive to be the best, but age has some to do with it as well, add in injury and optimal performance is affected.

When you pay for the best, you should get the best, but many times a year / two later you have a fallen off player. (TJ is an example, hope he can keep the boost for awhile yet).

Incentive Leiden contracts in both favor would be more viable in the long run.

If all the side **** was cut out and they went with fully guaranteed (with injury clauses) contracts, you clear this current mess right up.




Salute the nation

I think Joey is looking at the clock and realizing that he will 28 by the time he can hit real free agency if he gets tagged next year. He won't command top dollar at that point and he is panicking. Along with bad advice from his egotistical dad. Greed ego and father time are making him make bad decisions.

 

[slashsteel]

Opinion not fact.

A bad opinion as his play was clearly severely declining for all to see. Didn’t make us love him less, didn’t make them want to hold onto the shell of what was once.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Again, ignoring the point of outside revenue streams. Fine stick to your narrative. It doesn't change the reality. And those teams still haven't won the big game in that time. They only thing that really matters according to many the last 15 years or so.

You’re the one moving the goal posts, the Lions and Bears have been way better, and way more competitive than Rooneys Steelers in the past 5 years with owners of similar wealth. Those teams have been factors in the playoffs, the Steelers have been an afterthought and a punch line in the postseason for a decade. So now you move the goal posts to Super Bowl rings. You’ve been debunked by your own selective arguments, take the L. Take off your rose colored glasses for once

Art Rooney II has been a bad owner, period. There is no excuse for his tenure. Other teams with owners of similar wealth have done much better. He owns it, much like Tomlin you’re the one of the only ones left defending him, that should tell you something

 

[BLITZ]

You’re the one moving the goal posts, the Lions and Bears have been way better, and way more competitive than Rooneys Steelers in the past 5 years with owners of similar wealth. Those teams have been factors in the playoffs, the Steelers have been an afterthought and a punch line in the postseason for a decade. So now you move the goal posts to Super Bowl rings. You’ve been debunked by your own selective arguments, take the L. Take off your rose colored glasses for once

Art Rooney II has been a bad owner, period. There is no excuse for his tenure. Other teams with owners of similar wealth have done much better. He owns it, much like Tomlin you’re the one of the only ones left defending him, that should tell you something

Didn't the Steelers beat the lions last year? They were better then yes?

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Didn't the Steelers beat the lions last year? They were better then yes?

The lions were in the NFC Championship game in 2023, and relevant.

Rooney has been irrelevant in the post season for the last 10 years

Lebanon is arguing Rooney’s net worth makes it massively harder to be at the top of the league and making excuses for him, the lions, with an owner of similar net worth, show otherwise

 

[BLITZ]

The lions were in the NFC Championship game in 2023, and relevant.

Rooney has been irrelevant in the post season for the last 10 years

Lebanon is arguing Rooney’s net worth makes it massively harder to be at the top of the league and making excuses for him, the lions, with an owner of similar net worth, show otherwise

Did the steelers beat the lions last year or no