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Kendrick Green "highlight"

Drafting midgets for their position is a Tomlin staple, see Archer and Bush. He thinks he is smarter than anyone else and that his football genius can buck the players being outliers. We see how that has worked out for us.
If you had football intelligence you would realize Tomlin and Colbert share any roster fail. Bush is coming off a significant injury he still has an off-season chance to improve. Perhaps improving an incredibly bad D-line can help.
 
They should approach free agency and the draft like they aren't expecting him to start. Really only way you can approach the problem successfully.
They need to do that with the DL (our top priority and assume only Heyward is back for a year or two but no one else) and on the OL with all positions. That's why I've been saying pick DL in 1 and OL in 2 plus pick up a starting-caliber (don't have to be pro bowlers but legit starters day 1) on both DL and OL. I think that is a must. If our rookies make the big leaps typically seen, then that is a huge bonus.
 
They need to do that with the DL (our top priority and assume only Heyward is back for a year or two but no one else) and on the OL with all positions. That's why I've been saying pick DL in 1 and OL in 2 plus pick up a starting-caliber (don't have to be pro bowlers but legit starters day 1) on both DL and OL. I think that is a must. If our rookies make the big leaps typically seen, then that is a huge bonus.
I wouldn't put an agenda to it. They have FA money for the first time. I'd over pay a good nose or better yet a guy who can play 3-4 DE. Then you have a lot of room in the draft to get a great football player and I would probably go centre unless a great tackle fell. But if a top interior DLine was available I'd pull that trigger.
 
Leglue did him no favors there. Common for O linemen to step play side first. This was a screen. Leglue never sold the pass block. Didnt step inside and cup to sell the pass. He took off and never even looked at the NT.
 
Tough to pick from with the human highlight reel, Kendrick "Turnstile" Green, but this one certainly makes the clip:



"Oh, move him to guard!"

Yeah, sure. Brilliant. Make sure he has a 320 lb. athlete over his nose EVERY play, and not just against some 3-man fronts, yeah, that'll do it.

Anybody now defending passing on Creed Humphrey needs a serious mental health checkup.


They're calling only those plays which cater to Green's weaknesses. I haven't seen **** where Green pulls out around the end or pushes out parallel deep outside into the second level.

We need a new offensive coordinator. it's the coaches fault.

Once the O started thinking that hook and fade patterns weren't the end-all-be-all, Muth got involved and slant routes picked up 1st downs. Without that adjustment Steelers were heading for a 3/4 win season.

Things can improve on offense, but only if they fire the coaches. Otherwise, 2022 be like: Ace Ram, 22 right, JET SWEEP on one, one one, break!
 
Tough to pick from with the human highlight reel, Kendrick "Turnstile" Green, but this one certainly makes the clip:



"Oh, move him to guard!"

Yeah, sure. Brilliant. Make sure he has a 320 lb. athlete over his nose EVERY play, and not just against some 3-man fronts, yeah, that'll do it.

Anybody now defending passing on Creed Humphrey needs a serious mental health checkup.

The only saving grace is Freiermuth looks legit.
 
They're calling only those plays which cater to Green's weaknesses. I haven't seen **** where Green pulls out around the end or pushes out parallel deep outside into the second level.
I've yet to see any of Green's strengths. Am I missing something or why does Green get the benefit of the doubt of an offseason of strength training while guys like Jarvis Jones and Artie Burns were recognized as busts early on? Did I just not see some potential Green will develop into a starting-caliber center that others are seeing this season? As you pointed out, Green's athleticism is why they drafted him over Humphrey (despite Humphrey's historic RAS for the center position), and we don't see Green dominating in this area.
 
I've yet to see any of Green's strengths. Am I missing something or why does Green get the benefit of the doubt of an offseason of strength training while guys like Jarvis Jones and Artie Burns were recognized as busts early on? Did I just not see some potential Green will develop into a starting-caliber center that others are seeing this season? As you pointed out, Green's athleticism is why they drafted him over Humphrey (despite Humphrey's historic RAS for the center position), and we don't see Green dominating in this area.


wait>.. they were? We all gave Uncle Javis the benefit of the doubt.. when many called them busts season one.... ( coach?)


i agree therre doesnt need to be a benefit of the doubt for anything.. Hes a rookie , hes not suposed to start. Especially O line.
 
I've not been a fan of Tomlin for a while but him and Colbert both need to get on with their life's work. I think only five of their first round picks over the last ten years amounted to anything.
 
I've not been a fan of Tomlin for a while but him and Colbert both need to get on with their life's work. I think only five of their first round picks over the last ten years amounted to anything.


I like their trade for proven 1st rounders using our 1st round as capital. I don't have much faith / desire / confidence in the Tombert regime.





Salute the nation
 
The only thing I will say about Green is that him and Moore got shoved into the starting lineup as a third round pick and whatever Moore was. It was trial by fire and lots of hard knocks. If his confidence isn't blown up he should improve as a player. Hopefully at guard.
 
wait>.. they were? We all gave Uncle Javis the benefit of the doubt.. when many called them busts season one.... ( coach?)


i agree therre doesnt need to be a benefit of the doubt for anything.. Hes a rookie , hes not suposed to start. Especially O line.
More people didn’t like Jarvis in the first round than gave him the benefit of the doubt. This board was way ahead of the draft pundits citing his lack of athleticism.
 
The worst thing about Green is Tomlin stupidly ,once again , proclaiming him NFL ready on day one even though he started ONE game at center in his college career. When you have a ******** like Tomlin leading and evaluating you have a ****** up draft.
 
The worst thing about Green is Tomlin stupidly ,once again , proclaiming him NFL ready on day one even though he started ONE game at center in his college career. When you have a ******** like Tomlin leading and evaluating you have a ****** up draft.
omfg. lolololol

man,
 
I've yet to see any of Green's strengths. Am I missing something or why does Green get the benefit of the doubt of an offseason of strength training while guys like Jarvis Jones and Artie Burns were recognized as busts early on? Did I just not see some potential Green will develop into a starting-caliber center that others are seeing this season? As you pointed out, Green's athleticism is why they drafted him over Humphrey (despite Humphrey's historic RAS for the center position), and we don't see Green dominating in this area.
If you pay attention every draft pick that isn’t lights out right away is called a bust… some end up as busts, like Jarvis Jones, others turn out ok in time, like Dupree… some even become stars like Troy…
 
I've yet to see any of Green's strengths. Am I missing something or why does Green get the benefit of the doubt of an offseason of strength training while guys like Jarvis Jones and Artie Burns were recognized as busts early on? Did I just not see some potential Green will develop into a starting-caliber center that others are seeing this season? As you pointed out, Green's athleticism is why they drafted him over Humphrey (despite Humphrey's historic RAS for the center position), and we don't see Green dominating in this area.

Green does show great athleticism at times, but he obviously needs to get stronger and improve his technique.

I still think he can develop into something. They just did him a huge disservice plugging him right into a position he has barely played in his rookie ******* year.

I need to see more of Harris and Freiermuth before I can fully get on the "they should have drafted Humphrey train", though he is easily better than Green probably ever will be.
 
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i agree therre doesnt need to be a benefit of the doubt for anything.. Hes a rookie , hes not suposed to start. Especially O line.

Kansas City has two rookies, a 2nd and a 6th, starting on their line and are doing just fine, thank you.

Oh, and one of those guys actually played center for three years at a top college program, 2-time all-conference, and a Rimington award finalist. Yeah, and posted insane pro-day numbers.

But sure, rookies shouldn't start on the offensive line. You bet.
 
If you pay attention every draft pick that isn’t lights out right away is called a bust… some end up as busts, like Jarvis Jones, others turn out ok in time, like Dupree… some even become stars like Troy…
I know it’s happened with other guys but you see flashes here and there. Green is consistently bad and has played the position worse than anyone (some bad backups) since Sean Mahan.
 
Tough to pick from with the human highlight reel, Kendrick "Turnstile" Green, but this one certainly makes the clip:



"Oh, move him to guard!"

Yeah, sure. Brilliant. Make sure he has a 320 lb. athlete over his nose EVERY play, and not just against some 3-man fronts, yeah, that'll do it.

Anybody now defending passing on Creed Humphrey needs a serious mental health checkup.


Green is about as bad of a 3rd round pick the as the Steelers have made, like Dri Archer bad.
 
I've yet to see any of Green's strengths. Am I missing something or why does Green get the benefit of the doubt of an offseason of strength training while guys like Jarvis Jones and Artie Burns were recognized as busts early on? Did I just not see some potential Green will develop into a starting-caliber center that others are seeing this season? As you pointed out, Green's athleticism is why they drafted him over Humphrey (despite Humphrey's historic RAS for the center position), and we don't see Green dominating in this area.
A big reason, we are comparing 3rd picks to 1st round picks. Another reason, the season started off with Green pulling more often than he is now, and you could see his skill set.
 
Sorry, disagree. You are talking about getting a good player at a position the team just does not count on vs. an elite player at a position that was a vacuum that screamed to be filled.

Every pre-draft ranking noted that Humphrey was a very, VERY good prospect. His raw athletic skill numbers were the best ever seen for a center. He did everything well - bench, vertical, broad jump, 40, shuttle, with insane quickness at 10 yards in the 40.


He was also a 3-year starter at Oklahoma with film to support the numbers. He was considered a late-first round, early 2nd round talent and was there for the Steelers at 57.

Freiermuth is a good player, likely to be a very good player. Humphrey looks like a multi-year All-Pro. I take Humphrey 9 times out of 10 this past April, and 11 times out of 10 now that we see the film and numbers match up.

Meinerz looks like a solid guard as well. Jesus, if the Steelers go Harris, Humphrey, Meinerz, guaran-*******-tee they don't run toss plays on 3rd or 4th and 1.
If we had drafted Harris, Humphrey, Meinerz we wouldn't even be having this conversation. I'm not saying Meinerz is Humphrey, but those would've been 3 solid picks that we wouldn't be complaining about. During the draft when our 3rd round selection came up I though it was a no brainer Meinerz would be selected, in fact I was shouting at the TV in excitement/anticipation that he would be our pick.
 
A big reason, we are comparing 3rd picks to 1st round picks. Another reason, the season started off with Green pulling more often than he is now, and you could see his skill set.
I hope I'm wrong, I just don't think Green is a quality NFL center.
 
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