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Kenny to be benched?

You still have to give KP a year under a new OC. Canaduh instilled a lot of the bad ju-ju into KP. Any 1st rounder, and especially at QB, deserves a chance through his 3rd year (2nd starting season for him). I think you have to go into next year thinking KP is QB1. He needs the reps with the 1's in the preseason and camp, especially with hopefully an entirely new O staff. If things still suck past the halfway point in the year, then, you might think of pulling him.
 
You still have to give KP a year under a new OC. Canaduh instilled a lot of the bad ju-ju into KP. Any 1st rounder, and especially at QB, deserves a chance through his 3rd year (2nd starting season for him). I think you have to go into next year thinking KP is QB1. He needs the reps with the 1's in the preseason and camp, especially with hopefully an entirely new O staff. If things still suck past the halfway point in the year, then, you might think of pulling him.
He started 1/2 the season last year. They say you know what you have in a QB by Thanksgiving his 2nd year. Well, by that matrix horsie not lookie so good. I'm not seeing it with Kenny; he has been beyond terrible. Nothing special - not athletically, not in his arm, and certainly, not in his mental processing ability. He doesn't notice wide open targets and it happens every game, not just once in a while. Kenny doesn't have "it." And like everything, it will take this team 3xs longer to figure it out. We have officially made it past scapegoat #2 (the OC sucks). Scapegoat #1 was "he's just a rookie." Now we will have to wait another year for scapegoat #3, "but he needs time to learn the new OC's system." And so it continues. It's Mark Malone all over again: 2 more years to go.
 
You still have to give KP a year under a new OC. Canaduh instilled a lot of the bad ju-ju into KP. Any 1st rounder, and especially at QB, deserves a chance through his 3rd year (2nd starting season for him). I think you have to go into next year thinking KP is QB1. He needs the reps with the 1's in the preseason and camp, especially with hopefully an entirely new O staff. If things still suck past the halfway point in the year, then, you might think of pulling him.
I don't buy it, Kenny had 1 good year in a college career with alot of the same bad tape. He has yet to show anything remotely impressive in a season and a half +

See how trubisky plays in this offense. If he looks no worse or better than Kenny that tells us everything we need to know about Kenny.
If Mitch gets 1 touchdown a game for the rest of the season he will end up with more than Kenny in HALF the games.

The only way Pickett can look worse than he has all season is if Mitch comes in and lights it up.

The future of the Steelers is riding on Trubisky.
 
He started 1/2 the season last year. They say you know what you have in a QB by Thanksgiving his 2nd year. Well, by that matrix horsie not lookie so good. I'm not seeing it with Kenny; he has been beyond terrible. Nothing special - not athletically, not in his arm, and certainly, not in his mental processing ability. He doesn't notice wide open targets and it happens every game, not just once in a while. Kenny doesn't have "it." And like everything, it will take this team 3xs longer to figure it out. We have officially made it past scapegoat #2 (the OC sucks). Scapegoat #1 was "he's just a rookie." Now we will have to wait another year for scapegoat #3, "but he needs time to learn the new OC's system." And so it continues. It's Mark Malone all over again: 2 more years to go.
How about they ditch the HC who has proven over the past 12 years he is not going to get a team to another SB. Get a competent coach with competent assistants and coordinators....then judge.
 
How about they ditch the HC who has proven over the past 12 years he is not going to get a team to another SB. Get a competent coach with competent assistants and coordinators....then judge.
I want Tomlin gone too, The guy couldn't beat Blake Bortles with the leagues 2 best skill position guys and a hall of fame QB. Its been over for years
But coaching aside, QB Matters and Pickett ain't it, just like Mac Jones isn't bad because Belichik is a bad coach. He just sucks
 
He doesn't notice wide open targets and it happens every game, not just once in a while.
It's like his first read is his ONLY option to him as others have pointed out, and he can't see others standing there in an open field, even when given time by the OL. I wanted to think he was a franchise QB, but I can't argue what is being said. When he is focused on his target that isn't covered too badly downfield he makes some great throws. Maybe the speed of the NFL is more than he can handle and I'm not making fun. Obviously, I couldn't do it.
 
He started 1/2 the season last year. They say you know what you have in a QB by Thanksgiving his 2nd year. Well, by that matrix horsie not lookie so good. I'm not seeing it with Kenny; he has been beyond terrible. Nothing special - not athletically, not in his arm, and certainly, not in his mental processing ability. He doesn't notice wide open targets and it happens every game, not just once in a while. Kenny doesn't have "it." And like everything, it will take this team 3xs longer to figure it out. We have officially made it past scapegoat #2 (the OC sucks). Scapegoat #1 was "he's just a rookie." Now we will have to wait another year for scapegoat #3, "but he needs time to learn the new OC's system." And so it continues. It's Mark Malone all over again: 2 more years to go.
I'll go to my usual response on this and there are others. Allen didn't have IT his 1st 2 or so years. He finally got the right offseason coach and came back with IT and now he's one of the best in the game. KP can come back and win games. That's very important. He does have things to work on but Canaduh was definitely holding him back. You have to give him next year to see what he has. I know I would. And, as I said before, if he isn't much better next year under and entirely new O coaching staff (if Tomlin will even go that far), then you start looking for a later 1st round QB who might be better than him because that's where our .500 or so team will be picking.
 
There isn't going to be some gee-whiz young innovative hire that is going to bring a new offense in here and suddenly make Pickett look like Burrow. I think we all know that Faulkner is going to be the OC. We all know that Tomlin isn't going anywhere. We are going to watch the same crummy offense under achieve under the same under achieving head coach. It's a nice thought, but the Steelers don't operate that way and Tomlin doesn't allow for any autonomy for his coordinators. We will see some variation of the same **** show we have been watching for the last 5 years.
 
No you do not...
But they absolutely will… there will not be a new QB next season. Unless you count third string.. maybe…
Next year of the offense isn’t great they will blame Pickett
In 25 they will draft a new qb
If tge O isn’t good again in 25 it will be because of tge rookie being a rookie
In 26 it will be the OC again
In 27 maybe we have a new Hc, if not they will blame the new Qb

You kind of know the narrative
 
But they absolutely will… there will not be a new QB next season. Unless you count third string.. maybe…
Next year of the offense isn’t great they will blame Pickett
In 25 they will draft a new qb
If tge O isn’t good again in 25 it will be because of tge rookie being a rookie
In 26 it will be the OC again
In 27 maybe we have a new Hc, if not they will blame the new Qb

You kind of know the narrative
I think that's a pretty accurate scenario which is unfortunate.
 
I want Tomlin gone too, The guy couldn't beat Blake Bortles with the leagues 2 best skill position guys and a hall of fame QB. Its been over for years
But coaching aside, QB Matters and Pickett ain't it, just like Mac Jones isn't bad because Belichik is a bad coach. He just sucks
Pickett had it all going vs. the Bengals. That was exactly what he team needed. The score was not indicative of the play. And for The most part it was going that way vs. AZ. I'd like to see him well coached before I scrap him.
 
Pickett had it all going vs. the Bengals. That was exactly what he team needed. The score was not indicative of the play. And for The most part it was going that way vs. AZ. I'd like to see him well coached before I scrap him.
Me too.
 
Can anyone name a qb that would succeed in this offense? The stuff our QBs do is what is asked of them. First Ben. Then Tribisky. Pickett was third. All the same offense. All fared not greatly.
 
Pickett may not be the guy, but he's better than the current choices.
That said, the current coaching philosophy will ruin any QB they may acquire.
This team is stale, makes stupid mistakes, can't stay focused and except for a few players can't stay motivated. Just who does that fall on?
 
Can anyone name a qb that would succeed in this offense? The stuff our QBs do is what is asked of them. First Ben. Then Tribisky. Pickett was third. All the same offense. All fared not greatly.
Exactly. You can see when even Pat Mahomes doesn't have everything in place.....it ain't great.
 
Pickett may not be the guy, but he's better than the current choices.
That said, the current coaching philosophy will ruin any QB they may acquire.
This team is stale, makes stupid mistakes, can't stay focused and except for a few players can't stay motivated. Just who does that fall on?
If I'm not mistaken it's limit the QB and offense, and rely on a very expensive defense for the win. Too bad the D is now injured....
 
How about they ditch the HC who has proven over the past 12 years he is not going to get a team to another SB. Get a competent coach with competent assistants and coordinators....then judge.


Once again, you're making sense. DITTO


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Pickett may not be the guy, but he's better than the current choices.
That said, the current coaching philosophy will ruin any QB they may acquire.
This team is stale, makes stupid mistakes, can't stay focused and except for a few players can't stay motivated. Just who does that fall on?
I think Pickett has shown he can be a good player. Is he going to be elite? Probably not, but I think he can at least be good. People seem to have short term memory loss when it comes to QBs. All of our QBs have been bad in this offense. We shoot ourselves in the foot alot. Even last game when we got going we ended up with penalties, free rushers, bad snaps, or just plain bad play calls. Our first drive was looking great then one bad snap and we end w/ a FG. We cant score from the 1yrd line, Mitch fumbles a bad snap etc etc....If you watch the all 22 film Kenny made the right reads or at least a decent read most of the time. No QB is going to get every read right all the time. Also if someone is open, most of the time it seems to be on the opposite side of the field from the primary target and our line normally does not give Kenny that kind of time. I think it is too early to give up on Pickett, but he needs more help than the coaches / rest of the team are giving him now.
 
You still have to give KP a year under a new OC. Canaduh instilled a lot of the bad ju-ju into KP. Any 1st rounder, and especially at QB, deserves a chance through his 3rd year (2nd starting season for him). I think you have to go into next year thinking KP is QB1. He needs the reps with the 1's in the preseason and camp, especially with hopefully an entirely new O staff. If things still suck past the halfway point in the year, then, you might think of pulling him.
I agree that you give him one more year, but I am hoping for a miracle because from what I've seen in two years is dude has some serious flaws starting with his trouble with zone defense and just staring down his first read. I don't think he's the guy...you are just not going to strike gold twice in a row, first Ben and now Kenny of course. Having said that he deserves a chance under an experienced OC.

 
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Pickett had it all going vs. the Bengals. That was exactly what he team needed. The score was not indicative of the play. And for The most part it was going that way vs. AZ. I'd like to see him well coached before I scrap him.
He stares at his primary receiver and that's it. You will never be a decent NFL QB operating like that. Kenny simply doesn't have "it."
 
But they absolutely will… there will not be a new QB next season. Unless you count third string.. maybe…
Next year of the offense isn’t great they will blame Pickett
In 25 they will draft a new qb
If tge O isn’t good again in 25 it will be because of tge rookie being a rookie
In 26 it will be the OC again
In 27 maybe we have a new Hc, if not they will blame the new Qb

You kind of know the narrative
I disagree. We've seen massive changes in 'how we approach things' w/ Omar Khan at GM. We've also seen our OC jettisoned mid-season - something that hasn't happened since JMM was a tike...

I root for Kenny because he's a Steeler. My original opinion of him has never changed - if it takes you 5 years to catch on...something in the milk ain't clean...

Joe Burrow took a fair amount of time; but the Bengals drafted his #1 WR from LSU (Jamar Chase), with whom he has awesome chemistry.

Do not be surprised if a QB is selected in Rd 2 in April.
 
Can anyone name a qb that would succeed in this offense? The stuff our QBs do is what is asked of them. First Ben. Then Tribisky. Pickett was third. All the same offense. All fared not greatly.
The offense has changed. What I mean by that is the combo OC's are calling better plays (sequentially) which make the balance better. The problem w/ the AZ game (I've rewatched it twice) was not scoring the TD early when Najee was stuffed on the goal line.

Then the injuries started to mount up.

We all know that Coach Tomlin is on the downside of his career in da Burgh but we have definitive answers as the remainder of the season pans out as well as the seeing the draft picks that are selected in April.

Admit it - we sucked at ILB for the past 3 seasons and finally - we picked up 3 sure fire hits in Holcolm, Alexander and Roberts. Again, injuries killed those plans.

I'll see how this all plays out but methinks Kenny "One Read" is done here...
 
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