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Labor Shortage is USA's Biggest Economic problem

You liberals will? By all means, we have a solution to the problem. Democrat Leftist landscapers and crop pickers.

No, which is one reason why liberals didn’t want Mexicans kicked out of the country or to have a lottery style visa program. Either Trumptards weren’t able to think that through or it just wasn’t enough of a reason to temper their xenophobia.
 
No, which is one reason why liberals didn’t want Mexicans kicked out of the country or to have a lottery style visa program. Either Trumptards weren’t able to think that through or it just wasn’t enough of a reason to temper their xenophobia.

Because we don't want a never ending stream of semiliterate low skilled day laborers coming across the border doesn't mean we are xenophobic. It means we are smart enough to see the long term effects of that.
 
Put anyone of ANY race in dire economic conditions and see how they react.

Undocumented immigrants here in the U.S.commit crime, including violent crime at a far lower rate than the native population.

Yeah ,true socialism tends to make people happier and less prone to violence...........so Norway is a bad example for those who conflate communism, despotism, etc. with real socialism.

Incorrect, again. We've corrected this baseless statement countless times. And you'll keep regurgitating it.

This is you're problem, you state so many "facts" that simply aren't.

https://cis.org/Camarota/NonCitizens-Committed-Disproportionate-Share-Federal-Crimes-201116

Non-Citizens Committed a Disproportionate Share of Federal Crimes, 2011-16

21% of those convicted of non-immigration crimes were non-citizens — 2.5 times their share of the population

Many immigration advocates argue that immigrants have much lower crime rates than natives (see this op-ed and this paper). As my colleague Jessica Vaughan and I pointed in a paper some years ago, however, the picture is far from clear. While there are other issues, the biggest problem with studying immigrant crime is that states and localities do not systematically track the country of birth, citizenship, or legal status of those they arrest, convict, or incarcerate. But the federal government does track the citizenship of those it convicts. New data from the U.S. Sentencing Commission shows that of those convicted of federal crimes between 2011 and 2016, 44.2 percent were not U.S. citizens — 21.4 percent, if immigration crimes are excluded. In comparison, non-citizens are 8.4 percent of the adult population. Of this 8.4 percent, about 4 percent are illegal immigrants and about 4 percent are legal immigrants.

The commission's data does not distinguish legal status among non-citizens. It is almost certain that a majority of the non-citizens convicted of federal crimes are illegal immigrants. But we cannot say for sure because that information is not provided. What we can say, at least at the federal level, is that non-citizens are more likely to commit crimes than citizens.

A Very Important Caveat about These Numbers. Those convicted at the federal level are not necessarily representative of all criminal convictions in the United States. Most law enforcement occurs at the state and local level and it is not reasonable to simply extrapolate about immigrant criminality generally from the federal data. Nonetheless, federal law enforcement is still enormous, with 312,000 people (67,000 non-citizens) sentenced in the federal courts between 2011 and 2016, excluding immigration violations. And in the federal system, where we do have good data, non-citizens account for a disproportionate share of those who are sentenced for many different types of non-immigration crimes.

One Additional Caveat. Because it is easier to make an immigration case, federal prosecutors sometimes charge illegal immigrants only with immigration violations, even when they have committed serious non-immigration crimes.

Among the findings of the new data:

Areas where non-citizens account for a much larger share of convictions than their 8.4 percent share of the adult population include:

42.4 percent of kidnapping convictions;
31.5 percent of drug convictions;
22.9 percent of money laundering convictions;
13.4 percent of administration of justice offenses (e.g. witness tampering, obstruction, and contempt);
17.8 percent of economic crimes (e.g. larceny, embezzlement, and fraud);
13 percent of other convictions (e.g. bribery, civil rights, environmental, and prison offenses); and
12.8 percent of auto thefts.

Areas where non-citizens account for a share of convictions roughly equal to their share of the adult population include:

9.6 percent of assaults;
8.9 percent of homicides; and
7.5 percent of firearm crimes.

Areas where non-citizens account for a share of convictions lower than their share of the adult population include:

4.1 percent of sex crimes;
3.3 percent of robberies;
4.5 percent of arsons; and
0 percent of burglaries.

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Keep banging that drum though.

so Elfie is saying that people who are in dire economic straits will commit violent crime. yet they do not do so once they step onto our pristine soil. in some magnificient goddamned way, they leave all their learned violent ways on the Mexican side of the border.

yet somehow, someway there are still crimes committed by illegal immigrants. In this, we can use the numbers that Tim provided to adequately deduce that there are still some illegal immigants in dire economic straits once they reach our soil.

thus, using elfie's logic, and i think we can all agree, those people should be sent back to the raging shithole from which they came. since, obviously, their ecosocial status was more improved there than here, otherwise they'd not be committing crimes here since they didn't commit crimes in their homeland.

by god, elfie's a goddamned genius.
 
No, which is one reason why liberals didn’t want Mexicans kicked out of the country or to have a lottery style visa program.

So you are for a merit based system then?
 
Because we don't want a never ending stream of semiliterate low skilled day laborers coming across the border doesn't mean we are xenophobic. It means we are smart enough to see the long term effects of that.

Oh yeah. God forbid we have cheap landscaping and produce.
 
No, which is one reason why liberals didn’t want Mexicans kicked out of the country or to have a lottery style visa program. Either Trumptards weren’t able to think that through or it just wasn’t enough of a reason to temper their xenophobia.

No one....NO ONE...has a problem with Legal Immigrants.

We have one problem only with immigration - illegal immigrants.

I welcome with open arms as many LEGAL immigrants as this country can accept. Period.

Now, onto your next misguided, misapplied, stupid stereotype?
 
No one....NO ONE...has a problem with Legal Immigrants.

We have one problem only with immigration - illegal immigrants.

I welcome with open arms as many LEGAL immigrants as this country can accept. Period.

Now, onto your next misguided, misapplied, stupid stereotype?

but, you're racist. this has been confirmed by Elfie and Trog.
 
but, you're racist. this has been confirmed by Elfie and Trog.

Yep, expecting those in America to pay taxes and be subject to our laws is indeed racist.
 
Making sure the 1% and corporations actually pay taxes instead of housing money offshore, would be an incredible step to reduce the deficit. We're paying Apple's taxes, because they are paying ZERO. THAT is the problem.

Well that, and the fact that our country can't print its own currency...
 
But....but.....alot of them are BROWN......they have sex with teenage girls because of their culture i.e. they're BROWN....they're rapists....did I mention they're BROWN!

suck a glock

no one here gives a **** about LEGAL immigration....those breaking the laws and entering illegally are the issue....********
 
No, which is one reason why liberals didn’t want Mexicans kicked out of the country or to have a lottery style visa program. Either Trumptards weren’t able to think that through or it just wasn’t enough of a reason to temper their xenophobia.

so just keep the mexicans...what about those from other Latin American countries? racist
 
Making sure the 1% and corporations actually pay taxes instead of housing money offshore, would be an incredible step to reduce the deficit. We're paying Apple's taxes, because they are paying ZERO. THAT is the problem.

Well that, and the fact that our country can't print its own currency...

Who cares whether Apple pays taxes? The issue is them parking money offshore, but IT IS THEIR MONEY. The government has no right to it. I'm for completely cutting federal corporate income tax, completely. Then company's have zero reason to shelter money offshore. Right? It stays here and either gets reinvested or paid as dividends (then taxed, btw). The taxes a company should pay are those local taxes related to sales or property, or whatever, and any federal expenses directly related to that company. If it is a chemical company that requires frequent inspections? You know how much time the inspections take right? Then you can determine the tax. They need to pay for it. They **** up and need clean up? They pay the cost back to the government.

It is none of my business what anyone else does with their money, as long as it is legal.

For what it is worth, I'm for ditching personal income tax, too.
 
Oh yeah. God forbid we have cheap landscaping and produce.

You're Ok with paying brown people below min wage to these people because they work off of the books, just so you don't have to pay an American what the liberal government requires? Why wouldn't you be OK with paying higher prices if it helps the economy. You are all for higher taxes to pay for people NOT to work, why not, instead, pay higher prices to pay those people TO work?

Racist.
 
But....but.....alot of them are BROWN......they have sex with teenage girls because of their culture i.e. they're BROWN....they're rapists....did I mention they're BROWN!

One trick pony.


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No, because the people who voted for Trump won’t do the landscaping, agricultural and fishing jobs that aren’t being filled and increasing costs.

From the article dimwit:

Across the nation, in industries as varied as trucking, construction, retailing, fast food, oil drilling, technology, and manufacturing, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to find good help
 
I celebrate the hell out of Cinco de Mayo. Not because I really give a **** that the Mexicans beat the French but because I love Mexican food. Today I went to a Mexican grocery store, the legit kind where they no speaka English, and bought both al pastor and beef, cotija cheese and fresh tortillas for tomorrow's tacos. I don't use that electric green premix crap for margaritas. I use Tres Agaves tequila and their organic mix. On the rocks with fresh lime and lightly salted...I recommend it highly.
 
But....but.....alot of them are BROWN......they have sex with teenage girls because of their culture i.e. they're BROWN....they're rapists....did I mention they're BROWN!

Get it right Elfie...they're rapists.
 
No, because the people who voted for Trump won’t do the landscaping, agricultural and fishing jobs that aren’t being filled and increasing costs.

How the **** do you know what people who voted for Trump do for a living.
 
Right....even from "shithole countries?"

Everyone knows this is ALL about racism. The hiding behind " I don't have a problem with them coming here legally" is code for " Now with Trump in we know he'll make sure and lower the quotas on the BROWNS"

Try to hide it a little harder, maybe listen to Beck for a while instead of Limbaugh. You might hear a different justification.

Haiti IS a "**** hole"! The Dominican Republic shares the exact same island. They have the same natural resources, the same sea access, the same earth quakes, the same weather issues, yet they have no where near the same problems as Haiti. Its all about who they choose to be in charge.
 
https://www.valuewalk.com/2018/04/the-us-labor-shortage-that-will-only-get-worse/

I predicted it two years ago and it is starting to set in. Boomers are retiring at a rapid rate, which leaves the jobs open that they retire from and
large amounts or retirements also cause a need for medical and service workers to supply the retirement lifestyle. With unemployment already
at 3.9%, we don't have enough workers to maintain high GDP growth. The tax cuts will increase debt and we won't have the workers to maintain growth
to support keeping the tax cuts permanent.

Instead of tightening immigration we need to be easing up on it to increase our labor force to support the biggest retirement wave in US history.

Thats the dumbest thing I have ever read!
 
How the **** do you know what people who voted for Trump do for a living.

I know what they DON’T do for a living and yet like to ***** about Mexicans doing it.
 
But....but.....alot of them are BROWN......they have sex with teenage girls because of their culture i.e. they're BROWN....they're rapists....did I mention they're BROWN!

Yes and in their country the legal age of consent is 13. And that's what the problem is. They come to this country bringing their customs and believing the laws in their country apply in this country. And when they find out they are not the same they haul *** back to their country. Of course they are wanted fugitives by then. Oh and did I forget to say they are brown?
 
less crime in Norway than there is here. maybe the people there aren't as prone to violence?

Obviously white people are less prone to violence.

The CBO is full of idiots.........

Tax cuts, spending to raise U.S. deficit to $1 trillion by 2020, CBO analysis shows

You're apparently ignoring the "spending" part. Of course if we cut the spending part then we're back to "Dey comin' fo' the da wimmen, dey comin' fo' da chilluns, dey comin' fo' da eldahly!"

You liberals will? By all means, we have a solution to the problem. Democrat Leftist landscapers and crop pickers.

Finally, a god damned good suggestion out of your mouth Flog.

 
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