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I can’t stand either team, but will take the chefs falling
Bo Nix is making believers
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It was clear that the Ravens had some respect for Gabriel and none for Sanders. As soon as Shedur entered, the ravens blitzed like crazy, banking the fact he get flustered and scramble rather than hit his hot routes.
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you must have missed the first Game Ben came off the Bench as a rookie.
Ben
12 of 20, 60% comp%. 176 yards 2td 2 pks and a 82.5 qb rating. Loss to the rats, then went on to win 15 in a row and win rookie of the year.
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4 of 16, 25% comp%,47 yrds, 0td 1 pick and a 13.5 qb rating. loss to the rats
Yeah I'm being premature. If Deion wasn't his daddy he would be sitting at home right now.
so yeah watching Sanders today makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about how special Ben was.
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I’m probably in the minority, but I think Shedeur can at the very least be a serviceable QB. He’s gotta quit rolling into pressure and trying to do what he got away with in Colorado. Most of his passes were pretty accurate, the defense just made plays. I think he’ll get better with more first team reps. Not sure he’ll be great, but I think he can be good.
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Jeepers, tony romo is ****-ing sucking KC nut sacks
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Shedur has good accuracy so he probably can carve out a career as a backup or low end starter like Geno Smith. The talk of him being an elite talent is nonsense.
So to be clear his being in the NFL has little to nothing to do with Deion being his dad. Its actually foolish of someone to say that considering his draft status dropped likely because of who his dad was. Theres more then enough evidence to support this considering he was initially projected to be a first rd pick till Deion became outspoken about what type of team he wanted his son to play for. I think there was actual collusion to make an example of him at that point.
Second the guy was the offensive player of the year in his conference at a FCS school, and had multiple top player awards at Div 1 and FCS level. He was also a second team All American and finished top ten Heisman voting. So I wouldn't say hes in the NFL at all because of his dad as much as his own play on the field. He deserves to be in the NFL just as much as Dillon Gabriel or Will Howard do thats for sure.
As far as you comparing him to Ben I mean unless all things being equal its also a foolish comparison. Unless you can somehow show this Cleveland offense was just as good if not better regarding personnel and coaching then Ben had you sort of have to wait to see a larger body of work b4 you can say whether Shedeur is special or not.
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to be fair I was actually one that was pulling for him in college. watched every game that I could. it became painfully obvious that his receivers really carried him for the most part. and I think he benefited from a very weak schedule for the most part also. I just don't think he could have cut it for a team like AL, OSU, Georgia ect. Sanders threw a lot of 3 to 5 yard completions.
His draft position dropped because he was not a first round talent. they were practicality begging someone to draft him, and if he was truly a talent he would have been take earlier regardless of his dad or his own personality. IIRC people were saying that even his interviews sucked ***. Tomlin passing on him should say it all.
Maybe i will be wrong it's been known to happen. but it doesn't change what I said about watching his first game against Bens first game making a person see how truly special Ben was.
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I have an extremely hard time believing you have 2+ years of tape on a guy who is believed by trusted and well reputable draft analysts and draft experts as being a 1st rd pick and drops all the way down to a fifth rd and its not directly related to health issues/legal issues. thats beyond fishy.
People can be gullible and naive as they want, but theres no way the NFL wants teams drafting a player thats going to set what they perceive as a bad precedence for the league which is parents/players dictating where players go and holding teams hostage and making a mockery of the draft process or the NFL as a whole. If you dont think there was some sort of collusion at play then I got swampland in Antartica to sell you. If its the interview process that set him back that still has nothing to do with his ability on the field and it still wouldn't be 4 rds after initial thoughts of where most believed he would go.
As far as you stating he had a 3-5 yd completion avg im curious to see what his actual yds were before and after catch before I would believe anything like that. I have a hard time believing once again he would be receiving top QB awards/recognition with those type of numbers.
As far as comparing him to Ben maybe Ben wouldn't have had the college career he had if he had played at a Power 5. Who knows? If its any consolation to you apparently Shedeur had multiple offers to play at a Power 5 conf school ( Florida, Michigan, LSU, Oregon, Alabama) so apparently they thought he was able even if you dont.
Furthermore if I was rooting for Shedeur I couldn't care less what another man did or does for another team. Like I said unless all things were equal it makes no sense to make a comparison like that unless its to Dillon Gabriel.
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you know what you win Sanders is the next coming. probably already fitting him for his jacket. how in the world could I have thought that Ben was a special player after watching sanders today obviously I have no Idea about QB's or football in general for that matter.
Please forgive me for my ignorance and for my opinions.
Have a great week you all knowledgeable football God you...
You're the one that compared him to Ben instead of comparing him to his actual rookie teammate which is the only one you could actually compare him to. No one is fitting him for a gold jacket but theres a lot of QBs that took years to figure it out before they became "special". He might very well be as bad as you assume and what you believe other teams saw prior to the draft. Its a bit much if youre making that assessment after 2 quarters of work.
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Hence why I made the comment about him making me realize how special Ben was. you could insert a dozen Rookie QB's into that comment. Ben was truly a special QB and you could see it from game one.
You took a comment made about one of the best to ever do it and turned into something all about Sanders. It truly does not matter how good of a supporting cast you have around you, to accomplish What Ben did from game one through the AFCC game IS SPECIAL and something no other QB has ever done nor will it probably ever be repeated.
if you can't acknowledge that you are gonna force me to take back all the nice things I said about your football knowledge.
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He still got chipped a lot...
But after watching our game, then the Browns game, and now the Lions game...TJ's biggest issue RIGHT NOW is absolutely coaching and what they are asking him to do.
When you watch Garrett and Hutchinson, you see them line up in sprinter formation no matter what down and distance. They are trying to get off the ball as fast as possible at all times. TJ lines up in a 3 point stance, only depending on down and distance. There's times when TJ doesn't have his hand on the ground at all, and lines up right in front of an OL in almost a squat position. I also think the "lining up in the neutral zone" calls from earlier in the year are still in his head, he's not getting off trying to time the snap like he normally does, and he's certainly not getting moved around like Garrett and Hutch are. I saw TJ line up ONE time on the other side. The biggest adjustment they've tried to make is lining Herbig up right next to TJ on obvious passing situations, and they just get in each other's way.
When we drafted Harmon and they named him a "starter" that he would help take pressure off TJ, but he's rarely on the field. Averaging 50% of all defensive snaps, while Benton and Heyward eat up the majority in this nonsensical 2 DL scheme. We can't even say it's because we run a 3-4, because we are barely in that. TJ has admitted that he needs to play better, but they are still not helping him one bit.
It's no different than the DK situation, these guys are paid a TON of money to make plays, but you can't just send them out on their own to make plays. The NFL is too good to do that, even the best players in the league, are schemed to put into the best situation to allow their greatness to shine.
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Good game winning drive, but Nix’ advanced stats are mid at best. I think they’re a one and done in the playoffs. Remind me of that ’83 Steelers team with Stoudt, who also started 9-2.
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I don't know Nix was good the end of last year and were down 19-0 in the 4th to the giants this year. They were able to score 33 points in the 4th to win by one. They beat a desperate KC and team and the Eagles, lost by 1 to indy and 3 to the chargers. I think they are a very solid team
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Obviously he is a football player and is getting it done for the W’s.
I’d take Bo Nix over anyone on our ball club or in our system.
Of course, in the Tomlin’s system, it’s very hard for any QB to succeed.
Will Howard could be a similar prospect as Nix, football player who wins. I wonder if we will ever find out ?
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It frustrates me to no end that we NEVER get to see Heyward, Benton, and Harmon on the field at the same time.
The scheme is outdated. It will always frustrate because it is flawed. But even more so on top of that is they don’t know when to run what. How to X and O their way to notable success . As long as those in game deficiencies exists you will see the roller coaster that is the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Austin just isn’t good enough. Not sure Smith is either. He is better than Canada but that bar was incredibly low. Smith just loves to rotate a little too much, and Austin just isn’t great in any particular area.