Looking to sign Winston?

[bermudasteel]

For some reason I couldn't get the video to play but believe me I'll take ALL YOU GUY's word for it. There is a reason 31+my interceptions and it isn't all blamed on scheme / other players / coaching........... Somewhere the thrower has to take accountability.

Pass and not a football type pass.

There is always hope he can improve ect ect......... BUT BEN is retiring end this or end next season so we need a high talented draft pick to fall in line and not some all ready shown & proven interception King.

ALSO, the money will NEVER line up.



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Add the fact that he needed glasses - I think he's still better than all the backups on our roster...JMO

 

[bermudasteel]

I'd rather see what Canada can do with Paxton Lynch than sign Winston.

Why the Steelers shouldn’t sign Jameis Winston
Matthew SchmidtApril 3, 2020

The Pittsburgh Steelers have recently been named as a potential free-agent destination for quarterback Jameis Winston, and on the surface, it makes sense.

Ben Roethlisberger is 38 years old and is coming off of a 2019 campaign in which he played just two games due to an elbow injury, and Mason Rudolph and Devlin Hodges do not exactly inspire much confidence behind him.

Even if Roethlisberger bounces back and plays well in 2020, you have to figure that the end is near for the veteran, who has sustained a rather dubious amount of injuries throughout his NFL career.

Winston is just 26 years old, so he could serve as the heir to Roethlisberger and take over once he retires (or if he gets injured again next season).

But it just isn’t a great idea.

Winston has been in the NFL since 2015 and has yet to show any signs of real progression.

Yes, he led the league in passing yards and threw 33 touchdowns this past season, but he also racked up 30 interceptions, making him the first player in history to throw 30 touchdowns and 30 picks in the same year.

That isn’t a great distinction.

Winston has a big arm, no doubt, and he possesses some mobility, but the accuracy just isn’t there, and he clearly has significant trouble reading defenses.

We can say what want about Winston potentially being a new man after undergoing LASIK eye surgery earlier this offseason, but it wasn’t his eyesight that was the biggest reason for his lack of success over his first five years in the NFL.

Do the Steelers really want to hitch their wagon to Winston moving forward?

They might not have any better options right now. Not as far as the eye can see, anyway. Maybe Rudolph has some potential, but he was playing so poorly late in 2019 that he was benched in favor of Hodges, who went undrafted. Sure, Rudolph ultimately won his job back before going down with a shoulder injury, but supplanting Hodges is not exactly a major accomplishment (especially when Hodges displaced him to begin with).

But there is this thing called the NFL Draft that Pittsburgh can turn to if it wants to find a successor for Roethlisberger. It doesn’t even have to be this year. The Steelers could attempt to find a quarterback in 2021.

Whatever the case may be, we have seen enough of Winston to glean that he will probably never be anything more than an inconsistent signal-caller who can display flashes of brilliance sometimes while making you raise your eyebrows and scratch your head at other times.

Pittsburgh would be better off just scouring the draft pools and/or potentially waiting for another young quarterback to become available before signing Winston.

And yes, the Steelers can just sign Winston for one year on a prove-it deal. But again, unless Roethlisberger gets hurt or falls off a cliff, Winston wouldn’t see the field. And even if he does play a few games and looks good, is a few good games from Winston enough to convince the Steelers he can be their quarterback of the future?

There will likely be other, more fruitful avenues for Pittsburgh to explore.

Supe, Lynch ain't better than the Statue of Liberty...He reminds me of the kid FSU put out there a few years ago---A.K.A "Beanpole"...

 

[slashsteel]

With Lynch I don't know what to believe about his lack of work ethic reports. But sometimes talent is late blooming. It still doesn't hurt to give him a training camp to see if there is some hunger there.

 

[deljzc]

Lynch has been through too many coaches and teams for him to suddenly be good in Pittsburgh under Tomlin.

This isn't exactly a QB growing building. You can fix a player a bit (like Winston). But turn them from a "released from a team" into a legit backup producing 1.8 to 2.0 points per possession? No way.

 

[slashsteel]

Lynch has been through too many coaches and teams for him to suddenly be good in Pittsburgh under Tomlin.

This isn't exactly a QB growing building. You can fix a player a bit (like Winston). But turn them from a "released from a team" into a legit backup producing 1.8 to 2.0 points per possession? No way.

I was thinking the new QB coach more than what Tomlin would do with him. But there are late bloomers in the NFL it does happen.

 

[Superman]

Lynch has been through too many coaches and teams for him to suddenly be good in Pittsburgh under Tomlin.

This isn't exactly a QB growing building. You can fix a player a bit (like Winston). But turn them from a "released from a team" into a legit backup producing 1.8 to 2.0 points per possession? No way.

Tommy Maddox says hello

 

[SteelerFan448]

I'd rather see what Canada can do with Paxton Lynch than sign Winston.

Lynch has done nothing in his NFL career and couldn't even get a hat last season after he signed with the Steelers. If a veteran QB couldn't dress with the Steelers situation at the position last season, I wouldn't have any expectations moving forward. If the financials worked out, give me Winston over Lynch and knowing they won't, I'd rather them draft a QB late or sign an UDFA. They'd likely have more upside.

 

[deljzc]

Tommy Maddox was horrible.

 

[Badcat]

If Bruce Arians doesn't want him, you know the Steelers don't. The league thinks of him as a QB Whisperer or some ****. Me personally, I would love to see Winston get a second chance in the Steeler's system. He can't be any worse than Rudolf, Duck, Lynch, or Barrett.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

He will just cost a WHOLE lot more.

 

[F83]

There are no late rnd guys that warrent a pick, we are better off letting Lynch and Mason battle, If any of the rnd 2-4 guys fall, The best would be Jake Fromm decent size, would be ideal for our quick 3 steop drop and release to a speadster. If he falls to the cmp pick should take him, FO keep saying they have no intent but when BPA vs a need unless that need and that player i.e a OG/OC in rnd is a plug and play for at least 5 years you cant pass up a guy like Fromm. I will name 5 OG if they fall to 108 that i would take over Fromm
1. If somehow Tyler Biadez
2..Jonah Jackson
3. Damian Lewis
4 Ben Bredeson
5. Calvin thortonton

 

[bermudasteel]

Tommy Maddox says hello

Remind me to smack you when I see you again...LOL

 

[Superman]

Remind me to smack you when I see you again...LOL

I'm about 6'5", have green skin, balding and wear glasses. Usually in an old, worn out HARRISON jersey, since that's all my ex wives left me with. That, alimony, mortgages, child support payments...they even took my sweet disposition.

 

[Paul G]

I'm about 6'5", have green skin, balding and wear glasses. Usually in an old, worn out HARRISON jersey, since that's all my ex wives left me with. That, alimony, mortgages, child support payments...they even took my sweet disposition.

Sounds like the life and times of AB

 

[Paul G]

Remind me to smack you when I see you again...LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2dQqIeq1I


don't go tugging on Superman's cape Berm

 

[Drink IRON City]

I'm about 6'5", have green skin, balding and wear glasses. Usually in an old, worn out HARRISON jersey, since that's all my ex wives left me with. That, alimony, mortgages, child support payments...they even took my sweet disposition.

Can you tell us the shade of green A-N-D do you want to sell the HARRISON Jersey?







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[Stryker]

Really interesting article putting into account Winston's productivity and the fact he's thrown less INTs than Payton Manning in his first

Click Here to Read

 

[deljzc]

Now that's it all said and done, I will go on record as really not liking the fact the Steelers didn't make a bigger play for Winston.

He signed for $1.2 million and counts $1.2 million against the Saints' Cap. We EASILY could have fit that into our structure. In fact, it is only $400,000 MORE than Paxson Lynch.

I just don't understand why we wouldn't bring him into the building even at $2 million with incentives. There seems to be so much benefit to it.

On a side not, since the beginning of the off-season, I've been advocating trying to get OJ Howard too. We might have been able to let McDonald and his big salary cap numbers go as well. OJ Howard would have cost $2 million this year and $6 million next year (or less if we extended him at age 26) with no cap hit if cut/released.

I don't know. After watching our backup QB's last year put up the worst offense in the NFL during their time "trying", I think something needed to be done rather than just stay status quo on the position. I don't think Rudolf, Lynch or Hodges is it.

 

[FordFairLane]

After I saw the contract I was shocked we didn’t have more interest. 148k in guarantees... I mean he legitimately would have had to earn a roster spot or he was an easy expenditure.


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[Stryker]

Nice analysis Del, I'm surprised Winston signed that cheaply. But it looks like a 1yr deal. Steelers can definitely make a play for next year.

 

[Steelmann]

Now that's it all said and done, I will go on record as really not liking the fact the Steelers didn't make a bigger play for Winston.

He signed for $1.2 million and counts $1.2 million against the Saints' Cap. We EASILY could have fit that into our structure. In fact, it is only $400,000 MORE than Paxson Lynch.

I just don't understand why we wouldn't bring him into the building even at $2 million with incentives. There seems to be so much benefit to it.

On a side not, since the beginning of the off-season, I've been advocating trying to get OJ Howard too. We might have been able to let McDonald and his big salary cap numbers go as well. OJ Howard would have cost $2 million this year and $6 million next year (or less if we extended him at age 26) with no cap hit if cut/released.

I don't know. After watching our backup QB's last year put up the worst offense in the NFL during their time "trying", I think something needed to be done rather than just stay status quo on the position. I don't think Rudolf, Lynch or Hodges is it.

Who would have ever thought he would sign for that amount. I wonder if the FO were ever interested,or if it was all media speculation. Obviously with that contract amount as a football player it would have made sense to sign him. The trouble has to be his character. By all accounts that I have read,he was a well liked teammate,never turned down a request to do charity work in the community.

Then you read about his well documented other ****. The groping of the uber driver,resulting in the 3 game suspension in 2018. So any other infraction would clearly result in a much higher suspension. The sexual attack settled out of court at his university. The cafeteria incident taped,with him yelling some really ugly ****. The crab legs. There is more. Obviously he has a few demons. Who only knows what other **** he has done that has not come to surface. Did the Steelers really need that type of media pressure put on them. You can imagine what they would be saying,especially because of Big Ben's perceived murky past. It was bad enough we signed that Dog �� torturing killer *******.
Did we really need this too?

 

[CorpusDsteelers]

The OP misspelled Andy Dalton

 

[Drink IRON City]

Some here have said we should look at Cam Newton, well he is out unless you sign him to be a starter.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...ign-anywhere-as-backup/ar-BB13y57e?li=BBnb7Kz


He says he won't sign anywhere unless it's as a starter. These things we have a way of working out as either the player in questions gets tired of sitting or possible a starter goes down and hi # is called,.......... Phone number that is.




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[Vader]

Some here have said we should look at Cam Newton, well he is out unless you sign him to be a starter.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...ign-anywhere-as-backup/ar-BB13y57e?li=BBnb7Kz


He says he won't sign anywhere unless it's as a starter. These things we have a way of working out as either the player in questions gets tired of sitting or possible a starter goes down and hi # is called,.......... Phone number that is.

He picked a bad time to do this. There are so many young QBs on rookie contracts that he will have to wait until someone gets hurt. Even at that he has to hope they don't have a young backup QB. How many starting QB jobs are open right now? Maybe Washington?

 

[Paul G]

Some here have said we should look at Cam Newton, well he is out unless you sign him to be a starter.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...ign-anywhere-as-backup/ar-BB13y57e?li=BBnb7Kz


He says he won't sign anywhere unless it's as a starter. These things we have a way of working out as either the player in questions gets tired of sitting or possible a starter goes down and hi # is called,.......... Phone number that is.




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I draw the line at QBs that feel entitled. You get paid to work for a team , if you are the number #1 option come gameday you get the call. You don't dictate your position on the team, your time in the studyroom, effort on the practice field and health situation dictates whether you play. Sorry Cam, sit at home away from football and wait for the misfortune of some other player before you accept an offer.
It speaks volumes about you and brings up memories of your loose ball skills and effort on the field in the big game.

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it is not all about you Cam