I don't like the odds of a third Bush winning the election. Even though Jeb would be miles better than Hillary, I just don't see that happening.
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Both Bushes I think have seen a slight raise in their legacies since they left the office. IMO Hillary legacy in in decline.
If the GOP puts up another moderate, the base will stay home more than they did with Romney.
Never is a very long time 21, maybe that was before you took up your platform against him ? Since that time though, he is pulling away pretty handily in some of the polls.
Walker .. 47%............116,510 votes.............247,365 Total Votes
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Paul's biggest problem is that he is to the Left of Hillary on foreign policy and the military. He actually comes close
to matching Obama's viewpoints.
Paul's biggest problem is that he is to the Left of Hillary on foreign policy and the military. He actually comes close
to matching Obama's viewpoints.
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I have no idea what you wrote all that for me pointing out that Paul was right behind Walk and that Bush has high negatives. I never said that Iowa meant anything. I was responding to the latest polls from Iowa. At this time Clinton was leading Obama by a huge margin.
Bush is a RINO and that's being kind. He loves common core. He won't do anything about immigration. He loves more government like his brother before him. Bush is the last person I want in the WH outside of a democrat. I want him to go away soon. Rubio, Perry and Cruz are 100X better than another ******* Bush. Why would a conservative vote for Bush? He hates them. I work in local politics and know many people that won't vote if Bush is the nominee. I'm not sure I'll vote for him. What is he going to do that I want? Seal the borders? Nope. Stop government over reach? Nope. Hell he is Clinton II.
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Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!
We have a winner!
The Neo-Socialists have to tone down their leftwing rhetoric when they run in national elections. Hell in most local contests they have to pretend to be conservative on some issues. The GOP has lost many TRUE conservatives out of its base because they have listened to the MSM about putting up candidates that are DNC-Lite. Moderates are electable according to the MSM, well guess what, THEY ARENT! When the DNC learns that they are being hornswoggled by the MSM who are shills for the Neo-Socialists they will be much better off. The USA is still a very conservative leaning liberty loving country, and if the GOP wants to get its base back and win it needs to go conservative. They will never win by trying to out Democrat the DNC. They can win as they have done in the past by being conservative, and I don't mean conserving things like big government and perpetual war though. I mean real conservatism.
Peace and abandoning empire.
Fiscal responsibility.
Free markets.
Small government.
Personal Liberty.
If they do that (the Reagan Formula) they win in a landslide. If they actually implement it the whole country will be better off and may actually prosper.
I think the GOP appeal to moderate isn't that strong because when the choice comes down to the party above or the party of Gimme Free ****, they will mostly vote for the party of Gimme Free ****. the GOP's best move is to nominate Conservative candidates to get the base to turn out. If Romney had only managed to get as many votes as McCain did in '08, he would have won.
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Exactly.
The GOP isn't going to be able to out socialist the Neo-Socialists. And the MSM is going to call them Racist/Sexist/Biggot/Homophobes no matter what they do so they may as well be true to their principals.
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People will embrace real true conservative values. It leads to greater happiness overall. Just leave the right to baby murder and homosexual wedded bliss out of it. You just can't legislate morality. That has to start in the family unit and through faith. I think folks are tired of being fooled and lied to over and over and over again. No more frauds.
They all start to look alike after awhile.
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I believe that pushing the hard choices during a campaign doesn't hurt the candidate as much as the media tries to make us believe.
Do you believe that taking a tough line on illegal immigration would be winning issue for Republicans in the election? (43 votes yes, 7 votes no) – I’m not nearly as certain that it is a winning issue as I am that surrendering would guarantee a permanent Democrat/Socialist majority.
Do you approve of Arizona’s new immigration law? (49 votes yes, 1 vote no) -Arizona has pretty much become the crime state of the union thanks to Mexican drug gangs, most of whom are illegal aliens.
The stance I agree most with is by Ron Paul. He doesn't believe we should just build a fence. He thinks we need to remove the incentive for illegals coming in the first place and make sure the 14th amendment is either interpreted correctly or repealed.
The 14th amendment was designed to help the children of slaves be full, legal citizens and was never designed to be abused the way it is ........and anybody caught with an illegal immigrant employee not only pays an automatic (hefty) fine but in the case of repeat offenders...jail time.
If they can't find jobs and free stuff, they'll be gone just as fast as they got here. I still believe in the "melting pot" that built this Country but the 'open borders' concept is too expensive and dangerous.
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Which president sealed the boarder and prevent amnesty? I think Reagan was the best president the USA has had in decades. But he gave amnesty too. My take is this. Illegals stay illegals and fill the cheap labor jobs. They do not get citizenship. This is what many companies want. If the cheap labor jobs become full, the its time to deport / crack down.
With all this drone technology, I don't see why the USA can't watch over the Mexican boarder.
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More than half the illegals come legally and overstay their visas, so border security is only part of the problem.
People come here for jobs, so if you want to stop them from coming here, you have to end their ability to get a job.
Universal e-verify by employers and heavy fines and criminal charges for those employing undocumented folks is the only
way to prevent illegals.
Walker is not even vetted yet. Herman Cain once led the polls in the 2012 campaign. In fact practically every candidate led the polls at one time.
It was like musical chairs. I think they will be playing that game again. I predict, nobody gets the chair and the convention has to decide it.
People come here for jobs, so if you want to stop them from coming here, you have to end their ability to get a job.
Universal e-verify by employers and heavy fines and criminal charges for those employing undocumented folks is the only
way to prevent illegals.
Walker is not even vetted yet. Herman Cain once led the polls in the 2012 campaign. In fact practically every candidate led the polls at one time.
It was like musical chairs. I think they will be playing that game again. I predict, nobody gets the chair and the convention has to decide it.
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The U.S. can do it. There just isn't the political will to do it. I loved Reagan but his amnesty program was a shame. The Dems lied to his face. They got a ton of liberal voters and never touched the border. My plan is simple. Nobody gets citizenship. The border has the military on it instead of defending every other countries border. Then I start punishing businesses that hire illegals... not this slap on the wrists. After a company has been caught twice hiring illegals then I start locking people up. I don't give a damn what companies want. There are MILLIONS of Americans that have dropped out of the labor market. Time to start deporting and forcing self deporting. I'd also change the law so that having a baby in the U.S. doesn't make them an American citizen. I'm sick of paying for other people's babies.
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I agree. Dems want illegals to help them win elections. But the majority of USA citizens would be for a better boarder patrol.
IMO the nations biggest challenges in 2016 are thus:
1 ) National Debt and the interest being paid/ financed by nations like China. A solution is needed. Pass a budget and put in a clause to pay the debt down...or the next generation is bankrupt.
2 ) ISIS, Iran, and terrorist groups trying to topple governments, and acquiring nuclear weapons. You could argue this is #1
3 ) The Economy. More commercial jobs are needed.
4 ) Giving the middle class a tax break. They are falling behind.
5 ) Re-building ties with older allies that Obama has tarnished such as Germany, and Israel and blocking Putin.
Immigration might be the easiest to fix if its enforced, but is it more important than the above topics?
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If your going to get the debt on a payment plan and give the middle class a tax cut, then we are either disbanding the military or going back
to pre-Reagan tax rates on the well off.
to pre-Reagan tax rates on the well off.
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You mean the ones that caused the economy to boom and allowed us to grow out of the severe depression caused by the Carter Regime?
I agree with your assessment of the situation of those knowingly hiring illegals, I have said we should use the RICO forfeiture laws in those cases.
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Maybe. I see an older past her prime politician with enough baggage to full a 747 and some health problems. Obama was double shielded because he had a very short track record to examine. He was also an African American who was miscast as some hope and change man The mainstream media was very careful with him, and quickly saved his wife from anti american comments by inviting her on various tv shows with liberal hosts. Obama's ties to radicals were never brought out in the main stream or debated outside of conservative circles.
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Over 10 million jobs were created in Carter's 4 years. I believe GDP grew at a annual 5% rate as well.
The thing about Reagan was his job creation was over a short period of time and led to near zero jobs in Bushes 4 years.
His policies had no positive staying power and now he is known as the Father of Income Inequality, which is
a big factor in holding our economy back today. He wealth distributed toward the already wealthy.
The thing about Reagan was his job creation was over a short period of time and led to near zero jobs in Bushes 4 years.
His policies had no positive staying power and now he is known as the Father of Income Inequality, which is
a big factor in holding our economy back today. He wealth distributed toward the already wealthy.
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They all tie together. Bad immigration policy leads to depressed wages for all Americans. The national debt is raised through having to pay BILLIONS of dollars for illegals to use public support systems like welfare, food stamps, housing, emergency rooms ETC... Look at all the crime committed by illegals. Look at all the illegals in jails that are being paid for by tax payers. Look at the harm to society. It's a huge issue that permeates the entire scope of government.
You can't worry about outside threats like ISIS if your country is being ravaged from within. Just look at the fall of Rome. It starts within. If this country can't stop illegal immigration then before too long the country will be unrecognizable. These people aren't being assimilated. Most Mexicans and their children still love Mexico and have no affinity for the U.S. You can't have a country full of people that have that attitude.
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No country can take an uncheck unregulated flow of people into it. This isn't just a few. It's10 million plus. Every single time we do amnesty it encourages more to come. Our president has done nothing but encourage lawlessness and he creates unconstitutional policy with impunity. He picks and chooses which laws he will enforce in accordance to political gain.
And there you have it - in this case, I don't care for the lesser of two evils. The 3 party option will be mine, if so...
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