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Mock the 2023 consensus big board.

BLITZ said:
Sounds like a nightmare. Why would you want to trade away one of your best offensive weapons?
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Then he could draft a RB in 1 which is what he has wanted. Remember this is cooch you are talking about.
 
Coach said:
There is slim chance we spend pick #32 over all or sooner on a wide recover this year. At best he will be our 3rd option! And we have Austin who looked good in camp before he was hurt and Sims who proved to be decent in his limited role and good return man. Think about it.

I like Bennet a lot and think he is one hard guy to sack. He was a very productive player vs the best in college football. Check his sacks taken per year. It is 9 this year and last year. That's excellent meanwhile the other qb listed at 6 foot even who plays for Alabama took 16 sacks, and is a little fragile. Bennett threw for a higher yards per play. You just don't find that information on Water Football. Yet Young's a high draft pick and Bennet a late pick?

Now I don't think Bennett goes in round in round seven. Try like round three or four. But he is a smart guy has excellent QB IQ / and Pocket awareness. No he does not have a good arm, but its better than Picketts based on what I've seen. And the kid has big hands / seldom fumbles the ball! I'd ask Pickens about him and tell him not to say crap on social media like the steelers inquired about him. A way to get a charter report on the man.

Too bad Bennett turned down the senior bowl.

I think Pickett is not the long term QB we are looking for and will go into detail as to why before that draft. Short answer is he is a safe game manger who threw in very short and lived on the defense getting him + turnovers. He is winless when he has to throw the ball over 30 times, we'll he is 1-3 but Steelers had 3 interceptions in that game. If Steelers want a qb that fails to beat a team with a winning records that is not staring their back up QB due to injury, they have found their man.

You not terrible when you mind you manners. I will talk ball with you. Now what does our own dark shades think about this dawg?

-Coach
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Bennett was just arrested. Perhaps that helps him be available in 7. As far as WR one will be drafted. It just a matter of when.
 
slashsteel said:
Then he could draft a RB in 1 which is what he has wanted. Remember this is cooch you are talking about.
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coach do you want to trade NH for a second and then use a 1st on a RB? I say even you would say hell know to this
 
BLITZ said:
coach do you want to trade NH for a second and then use a 1st on a RB? I say even you would say hell know to this
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Cooch wants a RB in 1 he started a thread on it on a different site.
 
BLITZ said:
coach do you want to trade NH for a second and then use a 1st on a RB? I say even you would say hell know to this
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What? Trade Harris? What team is stupid enough to want him for a second round pick? The Bears? Oh wait they don't have one. Some people here are a bit obsessive. I posted my mock draft here.
 
Coach said:
What? Trade Harris? What team is stupid enough to want him for a second round pick? The Bears? Oh wait they don't have one. Some people here are a bit obsessive. I posted my mock draft here.
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in all honesty i did not want to spend a 1st on him. but at this point I would not trade him for a 2nd. and I certainly not trade him and use our 1st on a RB. would you?
 
So I’m interested in several of the Pitt and Penn state players this year…
Penn State has porter, (who id take in the first, but don’t think he is going to be the all pro guy we’d like at CB… ) but after that I’m not sure if a lot of the rest of their draftable guys fit us…

Parker Washington is Dionte Johnson Lite-ish …mind you, I’m all for trading DJ if we could get Addison, who I think is a better version of DJ and could fill in right now at what he does… but Parker probably isn’t going to be a guy who makes an immediate impact and frankly i don’t really like the idea of spending a second or third on another 5’10ish wr who isnt going to make DJ expendable this season… he will be fine elsewhere.. if he drops into the 4 th or so, absolutely take a shot at him.. but im just worried that we are going to be overly small at the position if we keep getting the same type of player

The other guys all look to be ok prospects that most don’t really fit our needs… Tinsley doesn’t have the speed at Wr we probably need and has good but not great size… i feel like better options should be available to diversify the wr group …
Scruggs seems to be more of a backup Center type than a starter…
Brown would be a good get in the seventh, but he is probably just more of what we already have at the depth safety/ slot roles… I really would rather have him over Pitt’s hill though…


Pitt has more guys that should be interesting

One im not quite as high on is Kancey. He is mel Kipers 10th ranked overall player pre combine, but I’m not as sold on that guy for the Steelers in particular, as many others are … i was passing him over in the 2nd… I personally don’t think he is worth a high first…he isn’t another Aaron Donold … but hey… i am no pro scout…

the way he is trending he won’t be there at 17, so its not worth thinking about if he would fit the Steelers or not…

Baldonato is another guy climbing in the rankings, which sucks… because he was a really good prospect at edge for us, but we are not going to spend high draft capital on him… in the fourth, fifth( if we get one) or sixth round, he has value to us but we aren’t going to spend a third or higher on an edge guy with our needs unless a really great one drops a lot … we do need better insurance against injuries and free agent departures


Carter Warren is a guy Id love to get to eventually start at RT.. i think the depth at the position will cause him to fall well below his value.. he might even be serviceable at LT.. if we double dip on the oline and the interior guys tgat best suit us aren’t there, I would not mind him being one of the picks.. he was projected to be a second day pick last year, but came back and then got hurt early in the season… I really hope he ends up with the Steelers


Isreal Abanikanda probably ends up a third round pick…all the draft site are still listing him with his pre college 4.5 40… he will run faster than that and end up not being a late round sleeper pick… we really don’t need a rb early but he would be a great second backup plan… since snell and possibly McFarland are likely gone

Sirvocea Dennis… we like undersized Ilbs… he is a try hard high football IQ guy. Ive read a zillion conflicting scouting reports about him… i mean as a fifth round target ( we don’t have one… yet lol) he is a good value … he probably isn’t a future all pro, but if you are looking for an aggressive, fast ilb who can call the D he is an option..

The draftable Wr they have, Jared Wayne, is 6-3 and runs a 4.5ish forty.. He plays faster than he times though… he has some similarities to juju, a possession guy with yac ability and able to track the ball well on deep shots… he has a late round grade on him and is a bit of a sleeper.. like parker Washington, I wouldn’t grab him with a premium pick but hey if he is there late, and there aren’t other better guys that dropped, take a flyer on him. Pitt has a decent track record with WRs…

I haven’t heard anything that make me want their Safety Hill, but as a UDFA, pitts Cornerback AJ Woods seems like a fit for our zone stuff at least…

Better draft gurus can probably break these guys down better lol.. I’m just regurgitating a bunch of scouting reports
 
madinsomniac said:
The draftable Wr they have, Jared Wayne, is 6-3 and runs a 4.5ish forty.. He plays faster than he times though… he has some similarities to juju, a possession guy with yac ability and able to track the ball well on deep shots… he has a late round grade on him and is a bit of a sleeper.. like parker Washington, I wouldn’t grab him with a premium pick but hey if he is there late, and there aren’t other better guys that dropped, take a flyer on him. Pitt has a decent track record with WRs…

I haven’t heard anything that make me want their Safety Hill, but as a UDFA, pitts Cornerback AJ Woods seems like a fit for our zone stuff at least…

Better draft gurus can probably break these guys down better lol.. I’m just regurgitating a bunch of scouting reports
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I can only speak on the Pitt guys.

Kancey has been a consistent performer for Pitt. The defensive line is well coached and very productive at getting after the quarterback. Kancey has been the best defensive linemen over the past two years and at times made a living in the backfield. He is an undersized defensive tackle who can be very good in the right scheme. The Steelers aren't that scheme, IMO.

Baldonado appeared to be trending toward being a first- or second-round pick after last season. He was fantastic with 12 TFL and 9 sacks. Injury issues and a dip in production cooled his draft stock. At this point I believe he's a day 3 prospect and a guy worth considering as a project EDGE defender.

Warren was another player with high upside entering the season but never really materialized as an early-round prospect due to injuries. He has good size and showed improvement every year. You just have to like offensive linemen with his experience at a P5 school. Definitely worth a look on day 3.

Abanikanda had a good 2021, but really burst onto the scene this past season. He's deceptively shifty and has homerun speed once he hits the hole. Although not a power back by any means, he can bounce off tacklers and is going to be a very good backup RB for some team. His impact on the passing game isn't there, but is has better capabilities than evident by his production (or lack thereof). There's just no need with Harris and Warren.

Dennis doesn't have elite size, but is just a good football player. He's consistently improved and while he does nothing great, does a lot of things very well. He's solid in coverage and a surprisingly good run defender given his size. He also showed the ability to get to the quarterback, which is always a plus from his position. Dennis also has the knack for making a big play, which I know the Steelers value. I agree that he's a solid day 3 prospect with rotational potential early with potential as a future starter. Not a guy who will wow you, but can start for a defense for 7-8 years in the right system.

Wayne was sneaky good this year. He has great size and pretty good speed for his size. A pretty good catch radius, which helped him averaged 14.5, 15.5, 14.0, and 18.4 YPC in each of his four years. He was Pitt's go-to receiver this year and a solid No. 2 when Addison was in the fold. He still has some mental lapses that frustrate you and needs to work on his routes overall. He's an okay late-round prospect and will compete for a No. 5 role on some team.

As you mentioned with the DBs, there isn't anything spectacular, but even the late-round guys have found NFL roles in recent years.

I like Hill. He can fly and is a typical Narduzzi defensive back who plays with a physical edge. Unlike most Pitt DBs, he tends to avoid drawing DPIs. Overall, just not enough plays on the ball while in coverage and will probably go undrafted. Woods is a bit better in coverage and was probably one of the DBs who didn't raise my blood pressure watching them this season. Again, by no means a special prospect and likely can be found after the draft. Both are worth camp invites if the Steelers are looking for a sleeper.
 
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    Bryan Bresee
    DL | Clemson
    A
  • 32
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    Anton Harrison
    OT | Oklahoma
    A+
  • 49
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    Emmanuel Forbes
    CB | Mississippi State
    A+
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    Luke Musgrave
    TE | Oregon State
    A
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    Xavier Hutchinson
    WR | Iowa State
    A+
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    Tyler Lacy
    DL | Oklahoma State
    B+
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    Richard Gouraige
    OT | Florida
    B+


  • I am not a big Bresee fan. Yes, he has the size and talent but spends so much time on the sidelines with injuries. His tools are comparable to Tuitt so there's that. Harrison could be a very solid LT, a very good RT at worst. The more I look at Forbes, the more I think he is a Cam Sutton present day clone. Very good coverage, excellent in zone, plays fast, a ball hawk. Went up against some of the best receivers in college and had 14 picks. Musgrave just too good to pass up really. Was hoping for Wicks in the 4th but he was taken. Damn it. Lacy an interesting player. Too small for the 0, too big for the 5. Jeez, what the hell am I doing here?
  • P.S. I am using NFL Database for mock drafts because the players I want are never where I want them, and the trade offers are so bad. In other words, the thing is like real life so you have to draft based on what you are going to actually get.
 
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