Most puzzling part

[ZonaBurgh]

It's almost like Tomlin is trying to get fired and Deuce won't do it.

 

[MT~Forged]

The most puzzling thing was who decided to put Cory Trice on Ja'Marr Chase.

Would you rather it been Pierre?

 

[MT~Forged]

That toss play needed to be thrown out of the playbook a long time ago. I'd love to see that stats on YPC because it has to be awful.

It is a play for a RB that has explosion and speed, just not in Harris' wheelhouse

 

[suncitysteel]

That toss play needed to be thrown out of the playbook a long time ago. I'd love to see that stats on YPC because it has to be awful.

It’s a ruse, and in the playoffs we’re going to fake that toss and run several bootlegs. Half a dozen TDs coming off that play, I’m telling you!

 

[SteelerFan448]

Would you rather it been Pierre?

I'd rather it be our CB1 Joey Porter Jr.

 

[Steeltime]

I'd rather it be our CB1 Joey Porter Jr.

"We're not JV here, we're varsity all the way, no-eyelids varsity, never blink, go blind that way but do it as a varsity player, yeah, blind varsity players all the way, and give them hot dogs without mustard, just ketchup, yeah, blind varsity players with ketchup-drenched hot dogs. PLAYOFFS?!?"
- Coach Mike explaining the decision to have Corey Trice rather than JPJ cover one of the best WR's in the NFL

 

[steelhurt]

"We're not JV here, we're varsity all the way, no-eyelids varsity, never blink, go blind that way but do it as a varsity player, yeah, blind varsity players all the way, and give them hot dogs without mustard, just ketchup, yeah, blind varsity players with ketchup-drenched hot dogs. PLAYOFFS?!?"
- Coach Mike explaining the decision to have Corey Trice rather than JPJ cover one of the best WR's in the NFL

Well your varsity sucks! They should have their lettermen jackets taken away,

 

[6Lombardis]

I may be the only one here that believes in Harris but I truly do not understand what the problem with him is. I saw him run very hard last night. Warren averaged a half yard a carry more than Harris and couldn't get one yard to move the sticks on 4th down.

They posted a stat at the beginning of the game of how Harris is the only back in the last four years to achieve 1000 or more yards ALL four years. there was also another stat they posted about him that was positive, I just can;t remember what it was.

Najee is averaging 4.0 yards a game and Jaylen is averaging 4.3 yards. Najee has 6 TD's and Jaylen has 1. I just do not get where anyone thinks Warren should be the premier back. You also have to consider that Warren gets most of his caries AFTER Harris has pounded the defense.

please don't take this as calling you out on this I am not as there are a lot of people that see things they way you do. I just must be a little slow because I still think Harris is the better back and gives us the better chance.

For me, Warren hits the hole north and south better. He's faster. He has better break away speed and big play potential. Najee seem slow to the hole.

 

[Gildong Sack]

Like on what planet would you not say we gotta go with Warren. Is he in that bad a shape he can't just take over. I thought he was hurt but never mentioned after game. He had a 3.5 yard average but he had like 6 carries. So the short yardage that no one had a chance. Not one pass. And insult to injury lard *** Cordorell Patterson goes in during crunch time. You can distill everything else down to this. If he cannot see that. He is simply not fit to run this team.

When DK who is always diplomatic is calling some of the stuff you do "idiotic" I think it's safe to say you've lost pretty much everyone except for some ex players. Listen to the part around the 5 minute mark about Najee wobbling off the field...and Tomlin sending him back in..... and Warren was not hurt. He talks about the idiocy of the toss plays that almost never work...LOL.

 

[SteelerSask2]

When DK who is always diplomatic is calling some of the stuff you do "idiotic" I think it's safe to say you've lost pretty much everyone except for some ex players. Listen to the part around the 5 minute mark about Najee wobbling off the field...and Tomlin sending him back in..... and Warren was not hurt. He talks about the idiocy of the toss plays that almost never work...LOL.

Rich Eisen and the national guys will be last to the life boat. You can hear in the tone of the local media after the games that they have really woke the **** up.

 

[SteelerSask2]

For me, Warren hits the hole north and south better. He's faster. He has better break away speed and big play potential. Najee seem slow to the hole.

If the pass game was really good and could bail them out of some third and intermediate and long it would be one thing. Or if the oline could consistently get him to the 2-3 level to wear out those dudes. You need the guy who gets 5 more yards when there is a crease consistently because he hits the hole way faster.

 

[Confluence]

That toss play needed to be thrown out of the playbook a long time ago. I'd love to see that stats on YPC because it has to be awful.

It needs to go to the junk pile with the bubble screens and the jet sweeps.

 

[Steelr4evr]

The most puzzling thing was who decided to put Cory Trice on Ja'Marr Chase.

...alone. I'd have two guys on him.

 

[Litos]

Would you rather it been Pierre?

I rather they bracket one of the best WRs in the league when he is defended by a rookie, especially in the red zone

 

[stillwright]

The second most puzzling was putting Trice on Chase. Again cmon.

At times all by himself.

 

[stillwright]

I may be the only one here that believes in Harris but I truly do not understand what the problem with him is. I saw him run very hard last night. Warren averaged a half yard a carry more than Harris and couldn't get one yard to move the sticks on 4th down.

They posted a stat at the beginning of the game of how Harris is the only back in the last four years to achieve 1000 or more yards ALL four years. there was also another stat they posted about him that was positive, I just can;t remember what it was.

Najee is averaging 4.0 yards a game and Jaylen is averaging 4.3 yards. Najee has 6 TD's and Jaylen has 1. I just do not get where anyone thinks Warren should be the premier back. You also have to consider that Warren gets most of his caries AFTER Harris has pounded the defense.

please don't take this as calling you out on this I am not as there are a lot of people that see things they way you do. I just must be a little slow because I still think Harris is the better back and gives us the better chance.

Harris runs into more stacked boxes than any other RB in the league. Our OL is putrid. Our play calling worse. Our offense runs on 99% of our 1st down plays. Is Harris a top 5 back? Probably not. He is better than most on here give him credit for.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Harris runs into more stacked boxes than any other RB in the league. Our OL is putrid. Our play calling worse. Our offense runs on 99% of our 1st down plays. Is Harris a top 5 back? Probably not. He is better than most on here give him credit for.

It’s North South vs East West

When he keeps moving toward the LOS he’s easily upper half of RBs in league…likely top 7-8

When he runs parallel to LOS he’s bottom 7-8 if not lower.

Seems like an easy fix, but alas he keeps thinking he can win to the edge…which requires excellent blocking in front of him, and we all know that is rarely the case.

 

[TDX27]

Najee and Warren are a great duo and the Steelers will need to get a back to complement Warren next season. It's a really good running back class, but if we want a pure football player and workhorse back, Cam Skattebo will be a name to watch and unless he runs a crazy 40, he seems to be rated as a third-round prospect right now.

If either of the PSU backs are there in round 4, I'd go that route. Both have power, can take it to the house, and can catch out of the backfield. We need to go DL, WR, DL, and RB with our first 4 picks and in that order. The first 3 picks should be non-negotiable.

 

[SteelerFan448]

If either of the PSU backs are there in round 4, I'd go that route. Both have power, can take it to the house, and can catch out of the backfield. We need to go DL, WR, DL, and RB with our first 4 picks and in that order. The first 3 picks should be non-negotiable.

I disagree. I'd prioritize CB over DL. I think DL and WR are actually going to be the best value in the first two rounds, but the Steelers really need a second option alongside JPJ. A gamebreaker with some speed would be nice at RB.

 

[TDX27]

I disagree. I'd prioritize CB over DL. I think DL and WR are actually going to be the best value in the first two rounds, but the Steelers really need a second option alongside JPJ. A gamebreaker with some speed would be nice at RB.

The Steelers have neglected the DL for far too long getting mediocre players in the middle rounds. Just as they did with the OL the past 2 years, they need to address the DL with top round picks. Ogunjobi has lost steps. Cam is getting old but still playing well. We have Benton who has been up and down. Cam and Ogunjobi will both be gone in 2 years. That's about it.

Weidl typically builds from the trenches and works from there. That's how he built the Beagles and how he's started building here. It is definitely time to build the DL.

JPJ and Trice (played well against Chase even after missing a lot of time last year and this year). If healthy next year, those may be our two starting CB's. Jackson has also played well since getting him for DJ. I'm not sure on his contract situation but he shouldn't be too bad. Those 3 are better than we've had in a long time. If they draft CB, it will be for depth.

 

[Lloyd]

One last thing. Franco had six seasons where he averaged 4 yards a carry or more and ended up with an over all average of 4.1 yards a carry. Jerome had 4 years where he averaged 4 yards a carry or more and ended up with a overall average of 3.9 yards a carry.

Najee has been in the league for four years and has had two years with a 4.0 and 4,1 yards a carry average and an overall average of 3.9 yards a carry. there is no doubt that Franco and Jerome were two of the best to ever play and both are in the HOF. Harris is right there with both of them and some want him sitting in favor of Warren. I still don't get where people think Najee is not the back we need. especially running behind the line he has had for the last four years.

Side note Le'veon bell averaged 4.1 yards a carry overall also. so in my minds eye Najee is right there with the best this team has ever had. Not saying he is Franco or Jerome but his numbers are right there with both of them. Also NON of them rushed for a thousand yards in all of their first four years.

Barry Foster had a 4.3 apc on 390 carries for 1,690 yards. Now that was a rushing game, Cowher style. He was this close to being the rushing leader that year.

 

[bigben]

I may be the only one here that believes in Harris but I truly do not understand what the problem with him is. I saw him run very hard last night. Warren averaged a half yard a carry more than Harris and couldn't get one yard to move the sticks on 4th down.

They posted a stat at the beginning of the game of how Harris is the only back in the last four years to achieve 1000 or more yards ALL four years. there was also another stat they posted about him that was positive, I just can;t remember what it was.

Najee is averaging 4.0 yards a game and Jaylen is averaging 4.3 yards. Najee has 6 TD's and Jaylen has 1. I just do not get where anyone thinks Warren should be the premier back. You also have to consider that Warren gets most of his caries AFTER Harris has pounded the defense.

please don't take this as calling you out on this I am not as there are a lot of people that see things they way you do. I just must be a little slow because I still think Harris is the better back and gives us the better chance.

12 carries for 36 yards, 3 ypc

Better Chance at what exactly?

Harris is 68th in the league YPC

That means 67 guys get more production per carry. 67

1000 yards is nothing to brag about, especially with his volume over 17 games, the ypc illustrates this.
Barkley had 2000 yards in a 16 game season in which he sat out multiple fourth quarters, so in reality a 15 game or less season.
A 31 year old Henry had more 100yd rushing games this year than Harris has in a 68 game career.

He just isn't a very good football player. I have never seen a RB his age trip over his own 2 feet so many times. Loses his balance untouched, alarmingly often.
Slow, inefficient, he's not even a good short yardage guy.
Needs a gaping hole and a full head of steam do do anything remotely impressive.


Warren looks better than Harris, has for his entire career. Numbers don't lie. Film doesn't lie
You must have missed on the broadcast were Aikman was talking about how Tomlin said Jaylen had the hot hand at RB. Which made it even more puzzling when he gave Patterson and Harris so much work.

Arthur Smith managed to make Both RB look significantly worse than under Matt Canada. Warren was hurt but he still hasn't looked like he did in 2023 when he was the second most efficient RB with over 100 carries.

 

[Steeltime]

It needs to go to the junk pile with the bubble screens and the jet sweeps.

Mediocre Mike introduces the fake pitch jet sweep that turns into a bubble screen!

 

[Steelmann]

I may be the only one here that believes in Harris but I truly do not understand what the problem with him is. I saw him run very hard last night. Warren averaged a half yard a carry more than Harris and couldn't get one yard to move the sticks on 4th down.

They posted a stat at the beginning of the game of how Harris is the only back in the last four years to achieve 1000 or more yards ALL four years. there was also another stat they posted about him that was positive, I just can;t remember what it was.

Najee is averaging 4.0 yards a game and Jaylen is averaging 4.3 yards. Najee has 6 TD's and Jaylen has 1. I just do not get where anyone thinks Warren should be the premier back. You also have to consider that Warren gets most of his caries AFTER Harris has pounded the defense.

please don't take this as calling you out on this I am not as there are a lot of people that see things they way you do. I just must be a little slow because I still think Harris is the better back and gives us the better chance.

To be honest with you Warrior,I don’t think Jaylen should be the premier back either. I think he’s a great compliment to a feature back and when hot ,given more reps. I think they should also throw more to him. I also would not mind if they actually would put him in for 4 games next year as the featured back just to see. I still think he’s a great valuable 2nd back.

My problem is more with Naj. Obviously because he was a first round pick we expect more. At the very least,i thought Naj would be that good winter back. When the weather gets bad,he takes over. He doesn’t. He’s looked worse. Also obviously we can’t blame it all on Naj. But I don’t think I’ve ever heard more excuses made for a Steeler player than Naj. Below I went for mid November on. Winter ball. By the way. 39 of the 74 yards against the Chiefs on Xmas day were with under 2 minutes to go. Tomlin decided the game was over and handed off to him,while KC was in deep pass defense expecting a coach to try and actually score. They gladly gave up the wide open run for time off the clock. A point I’d thought to make.

There were 7 backs out of 50 RB’s that had less than 4.0 yards per carry. In other words Naj was 42nd in the league out of 50. This happens every season it seems.
You give those backs below Naj in yards the same amount of carries and they would smoke right by him.

Not directly to you Warrior,but if our QB was 42 out of 50….our safety,our CB….our FG kicker……etc we’d all be saying he should be upgraded.
Najee like all nfl backs will give you a few bursts,a couple good games. And then he gives 6 games of nothing. Najee Harris is definitely inconsistent and replaceable.
And believe me,I’d like nothing more than Najee to take over in the bowls of Baltimore and onwards to make me eat my words.

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Jan 4 Jan 4 vs vs​ Bengals	12 12​	36 36​	3.0 3.0​	1 1​	4 4​
Dec 25 Dec 25 vs vs​ Chiefs	13 13​	74 74​	5.7 5.7​	0 0​	2 2​
Dec 21 Dec 21 @ @​ Ravens	9 9​	42 42​	4.7 4.7​	0 0​	0 0​
Dec 15 Dec 15 @ @​ Eagles	6 6​	14 14​	2.3 2.3​	0 0​	1 1​
Dec 8 Dec 8 vs vs​ Browns	16 16​	53 53​	3.3 3.3​	1 1​	- -​
Dec 1 Dec 1 @ @​ Bengals	16 16​	75 75​	4.7 4.7​	1 1​	6 6​
Nov 21 Nov 21 @ @​ Browns	16 16​	41 41​	2.6 2.6​	0 0​	2 2​
Nov 17 Nov 17 vs vs​ Ravens	18 18​	63 63​	3.5 3.5​	0 0​	4 4​
Nov 10 Nov 10 @ @​ Commanders	​

 

[Lloyd]

12 carries for 36 yards, 3 ypc

Better Chance at what exactly?

Harris is 68th in the league YPC

That means 67 guys get more production per carry. 67

1000 yards is nothing to brag about, especially with his volume over 17 games, the ypc illustrates this.
Barkley had 2000 yards in a 16 game season in which he sat out multiple fourth quarters, so in reality a 15 game or less season.
A 31 year old Henry had more 100yd rushing games this year than Harris has in a 68 game career.

He just isn't a very good football player. I have never seen a RB his age trip over his own 2 feet so many times. Loses his balance untouched, alarmingly often.
Slow, inefficient, he's not even a good short yardage guy.
Needs a gaping hole and a full head of steam do do anything remotely impressive.


Warren looks better than Harris, has for his entire career. Numbers don't lie. Film doesn't lie
You must have missed on the broadcast were Aikman was talking about how Tomlin said Jaylen had the hot hand at RB. Which made it even more puzzling when he gave Patterson and Harris so much work.

Arthur Smith managed to make Both RB look significantly worse than under Matt Canada. Warren was hurt but he still hasn't looked like he did in 2023 when he was the second most efficient RB with over 100 carries.

All t rue words, unfortunately. Harris was just another bad 1st round pic and why he's been given so many carries to try to prove Rooney's hunch right, just don't want to admit failure and giving him endless reps to prove they're right. They aren't. How many RBs are truly better than Harris right now? 1,000 yard seasons just a product of endless carries