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Munchak endorses Beachum.

It's sad to see how many of the real experts disagree with Munchak's evaluation's. Guess we hired the wrong guy.
 
What no love for Beachum?

Dude is another Tunch Ilkin, a Carleton Hasslerig without all the crazy. We should be celebrating this news, not predicting when he will get beat out by the higher draft pick.

Glad Munchak sees it.

its not a downer on beachum,, its more of an oh crap,, we wasted a 2nd round pick.
 
I don't think this is really an endorsement. Guys are starters until they're not starters - meaning that the coaches are never going to dump on the guy who has the job.

I think FordFairLane is right. Let's reserve praise until Beachum completes a full 16 game season.
 
Adams played left tackle in college as did Beachum. I just want the best 5 on the field. The only interest in Adams instead of Beachum if they are both capable and that is a big if at this point is Beachum would be a better fit inside than Adams. I think it is great that we found a left tackle that was so stealthy the rest of the league passed on multiple times with out selecting him, now that is the way to hide talent.
 
Foster isnt going anywhere any time soon

Adams will be a always be a subpar lt pushed there to early, he needs to first show he can be reliable at rt before any consideration for lt.

2014
beachum foster pouncey decastro gilbert/adams

2015
beachum jhonson pouncey decastro adams
 
Wasnt Adams our rookie of the year a couple years ago playing RT? I see him replacing Gilbet there eventually. Either by outplaying him or, if Gilbert has a solid year, someone will offer him stupid money and Gilbert will leave.
 
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Adams is much better at RT than LT. /damning with faint praise
I think Beachum has LT locked down.
 
I think Gilbert gets locked up and Adams eventually moves on.

Unless a injury changes the course............
 
Good thing we didn't waste a 7th rd pick...

Me too. I'm glad they took a guy that had the ability to start if he turned out well.
 
Me too. I'm glad they took a guy that had the ability to start if he turned out well.

It should always be performance over pedigree.

Unfortunately sometimes it appears that it is not.

Had the opportunity not arisen due to injury, would we know now that Beachum is a capable LT who can start in the NFL or would he be our 5 position OL utility back up for a team whose coaching staff places an exceptionally high value on positional flexibility.
 
It should always be performance over pedigree.

Unfortunately sometimes it appears that it is not.

Had the opportunity not arisen due to injury, would we know now that Beachum is a capable LT who can start in the NFL or would he be our 5 position OL utility back up for a team whose coaching staff places an exceptionally high value on positional flexibility.

True. But Beachum was put at LT because Adams sucked so bad not because he was injured. I never understood why Tomlin insisted on playing Adams at LT when a blind **** flinging monkey can see he can't play it well.
 
True. But Beachum was put at LT because Adams sucked so bad not because he was injured. I never understood why Tomlin insisted on playing Adams at LT when a blind **** flinging monkey can see he can't play it well.

Because he is a LT.....Coach said so..........
 
I never understood why Tomlin insisted on playing Adams at LT when a blind **** flinging monkey can see he can't play it well.

because he had his position coach,, a specialist at that position telling him he was the best he had. Said position coach is now an assistant position coach elsewhere.
 
because he had his position coach,, a specialist at that position telling him he was the best he had. Said position coach is now an assistant position coach elsewhere.

Tomlin said Adams was a LT. He defended him as such during the first part of last season. He's the HC and has final say on personnel.
 
ok blame tomlin.. His position coach was/is as much to blame.

the blame is on both, if I had a guy on my staff telling me to start Gradkowski over Ben I'd fire him right away.
On the other side we don't know if that order came from above (F.O. wanting the high pick to start)
 
ok blame tomlin.. His position coach was/is as much to blame.

Who does the buck stop with? Tomlin said with his own mouf that Adams was a LT. He talked him up before the season. Who is the boss? We don't blame positions coaches for other **** ups do we? Do you think the TE coach put Adams at TE? Nope, Tomlin did that. He's in charge of who starts. It's ridiculous how people will blame everybody to cover for Tomlin.
 
Who does the buck stop with? Tomlin said with his own mouf that Adams was a LT. He talked him up before the season. Who is the boss? We don't blame positions coaches for other **** ups do we? Do you think the TE coach put Adams at TE? Nope, Tomlin did that. He's in charge of who starts. It's ridiculous how people will blame everybody to cover for Tomlin.

Your wrong. What I said isn't a cover for Tomlin. What I said is a belief or a hope in how the organization is run. Tomlin was what a D back at William and mary.. ? A defensive coach at Tampa and D coordinator at Minnesota. If I were the head coach and my position coach told me this is the guy to start... I would listen. I would back up my position coach's decisions. That's what a good leader would do. But then 4 games into the season,, with no pouncy,, etc... the wheels were officially off the Adams Bus and something had to change. They did .

I ******* hate tomlin. WHo does the buck stop with... ? lol This isn't 1947 .
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Please keep your Tomlin lover "projections in your own "Mouf".
 
Your wrong. What I said isn't a cover for Tomlin. What I said is a belief or a hope in how the organization is run. Tomlin was what a D back at William and mary.. ? A defensive coach at Tampa and D coordinator at Minnesota. If I were the head coach and my position coach told me this is the guy to start... I would listen. I would back up my position coach's decisions. That's what a good leader would do. But then 4 games into the season,, with no pouncy,, etc... the wheels were officially off the Adams Bus and something had to change. They did .

I ******* hate tomlin. WHo does the buck stop with... ? lol This isn't 1947 .
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Please keep your Tomlin lover "projections in your own "Mouf".

Bullshit. Tomlin knows little about 3-4 defense. He's a tampa 2 guy. He was a DC for ONE ******* YEAR. His pass defense was LAST in the entire league. I hope the ******* HC doesn't listen to a POSITION coach. You think the RBs coach decides who starts at RB? The WR coach decides who starts at WR? You ******* out of your mind.

So you can take your 1947 gibberish and shove it up your ***. You have no idea how this, or any other football team is run. Haley would pick the starters before the position coaches dumb ***. I guess you think Porter is going to decide who starts at LB right? LOL get your head out of your *** and pay attention.
 
tomlin is clueless any other assistant coaches we have on the team are better than him , if he smart he will listen to them if not he will try to find another job soon
 
I know no one will agree with me, but I think before the season is over Adams will be the starting RT or LT.
It's not THAT far fetched...
Adams and Gilbert do not fit this blocking scheme. For that matter neither does Foster but he has shown he can get the job done so I doubt anyone pushes him from his position at least this year. I just don't see Gilbert being a Steelers after his contract is up and the same with Adams. If they had ANY trade value I would say trade them both but I doubt we could get a six pack and a pound of jerky for them.
And so it begins...
If Adams is the starting LT Ben will be getting killed again... just like the first 4 games last year. Adams is NOT a LT.
How about we let the COACHES determine if Young Adams is worthy of the starting position??? Are any of us coaches working for the Steelers??? (If there is one here - silence is golden)
Geez, I hope Adams gets a stab at starting.
I see what you did there...

Let us "not forget", as Vader has already opened the bag - Adams was stabbed in the offseason - just last year - and made an attempt to start at RT last season. Now while he was just a second year guy - he had a mediocre OL coach and the line continued to drop like flies as a whole.

Adams, I hear, has a new "life coach". His name is Ray Lewis...
 
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