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SteelerinMD

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I just passed by a article on yahoo sports about Romo playing as a MVP level. It got me thinking about who really the contenders are and how undoubtedly known of our big 3 will be considered. It is a very unusual year as no QB is clearly running away with it. In mind i think these should be the TRUE candidates not the media candidates


QB: Manning and Brady have not been out of this world this year, both struggled at times. Manning broke a record and that is really about it in my mind. Brady has been up and down. they will both be in the discussion regardless. Romo will be thrown in cause he has had some good games and they won the division and Cowboy and Andrew Luck will be also thrown in.

Ben and Rogers: Both have been absolute stellar at times and each has struggled. They are 2 of the toughest QB's in the game and stepped up when they had too. I think they have both been the team leader an MVP should be. Both very high in every stat category and on playoff teams


RB: Really only see 2 in contention: Bell and Murray and you could argue for both

WR: Stat wise it should be Brown and he has to be in discussion. Also would not be surprised to hear Jones from Atlanta and Dez Bryant.

Defensively: JJ Watt has got to be in the discussion. I don't think any other defensive player is worthy of consideration


I don't know how many finalists there are, but in my opinion it should be Ben, Rogers, Bell, Murray, Brown,and JJ. I would think JJ or Murray would win
 
it should be flacco
so he can demand a new contract.
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics

Ben is #2 in passing yards behind Brees

Brown is #1 by 35 yards over Julio Jones

Bell is #2 behind Murray.

The Killer B offense is potent when we aren't settling for field goals. One of the 3 deserves to be an MVP when there isn't a run away MVP candidate this year.
 
I don't give a **** what the final outcome is. in my mind it is this. If Ben plays well next weekend and they win the division and the Packers lose, Ben is the MVP. If its flipped then it is Rogers. If they both win and play well, they will give it to Rogers, but it is a draw in my mind. This league would only give Ben the MVP if forced to, and in this situation they won't. But he is in what I consider the term MVP to mean. MVP doesn't mean "the best" it means who is most crucial to winning. Brady played like dog **** yesterday and even threw a terrible pick with less than 5 minutes left. When has that happened this year with Ben. Show me one game where he played poorly and they won.
 
The excuses for Ben will be Bell and Brown, but they won't use that same criteria when discussing anyone else. Ex, with Manning it will be he makes the players around him better, forget the fact that they throw the ball a TON, and they have a top 5 TE, a top 5 WR, with two top 10 WR's to compliment (even if Welker is having a down year). With Brady, it will be he carries the team, even when his RB's are getting 100-200 yard games with multiple TD's and Gronk is still a mismatch nightmare for any team to defend. They'll point to Rogers "relax statement" and how he has carried his team, forgetting that Nelson is a top 10 WR, Lacy is having a great year, and Cobb is a nice compliment. Romo might get some consideration, but he'll have the same things taken away that Ben will, Dez, Murray, etc. Lucks status has really taken a hit the last few weeks. Despite his absurd yards, and high number of TD passes, he's been turning the ball over quite frequently recently.

The MVP will always be a popularity contest, and Ben is not a very popular guy in the media. Forget the fact that he is always cordial to them, always answers questions, never throws teammates under the bus, always takes the blame on himself, etc.
 
I, too, do not understand Romo suddenly jumping into the MVP conversation, without Roethlisberger being there as well. They're basically in the same situation.
 
Rogers probably.
 
Rodgers. .....
 
Ben should be the MVP but it will probably be Rodgers.
 
In regard to Romo...when you play outstanding at QB, combined with choking every season you will get recognized in a season when you haven't choked,,,yet.

Give it to Romo. Then we can all laugh harder when he does something "Romolike" in the playoffs.
 
I have posted multiple times against Romo... if you are looking at the best player on his team, he isn't it. Murray was this year. if you are thinking QB from the best team in football, dallas is far from the best. they haven't been in that conversation all season. If you are looking at a pure stat MVP Romo is fifth or worse on overall numbers... he has passing rate going for him, but then again teams have been loading up for murray all season. the only Fucktards who think he should be in the MVP talk are cowboy diehards... and they dont know **** about anything. their opinions don't matter....
 
**** the regular season personal awards..i want that Lombardi....Save the award for the better MVP trophy (the SB variety). Those are the ones Marino, Kelly, Warren Moon dont have.

Let Romo have it..**** him.....he deserves it (for all the **** we pile on him annually and being the punchline of Cowboy jokes)
 
No one here would trade Ben getting MVP for a Lombardi. I don't see them getting anywhere near that with this defense. I'd like to see Ben be first ballot MVP and this would go a long way. Plus he got screwed in the second SB for MVP so this is deserved. It should be his time but it won't.
 
Ben should be in the top-5 in MVP voting this year. That would be a nice accomplishment really.

And he gets another shot a more playoff victories, which I still think if Roethlisberger's best "claim to fame" to get into the hall-of-fame someday.

The guy is 10-4 in playoffs and it would be great to even get that to 11-5 after this season. That would put him with Aikman and Staubach on the playoff win total.
 
I don't five a **** about the rest of the league

James Harrison deserves Steelers defensive MVP

he brought some spark back
 
I don't five a **** about the rest of the league

James Harrison deserves Steelers defensive MVP

he brought some spark back

And he is still our best defensive player.
 
I'd go w/Russel Wilson for MVP. He's a phenomenal player w/a game that's so hard to stop.
20 tds 6 ints 3300 yds 62% 95.7 rating
842 rushing yards, 6 tds.
Unless some crazy **** happens, they're going to the SB again w/home field advantage.
 
And he is still our best defensive player.

no, that would be probably still be Timmons- did you see him slam the door on that 4th down J. Charles? - that play probably saved the game
 
I'd go w/Russel Wilson for MVP. He's a phenomenal player w/a game that's so hard to stop.
20 tds 6 ints 3300 yds 62% 95.7 rating
842 rushing yards, 6 tds.
Unless some crazy **** happens, they're going to the SB again w/home field advantage.

Nah - Seattle's MVP would be their Defense. Granted that Wilson makes some clutch plays along the way, but when your defense is shutting down opponents the way they do, your QB only needs to be above average to have success in the game.
 
Roethlisberger should be one of the top candidates for MVP, but you haven't even heard his name mentioned. Ridiculous. He probably won't even win the team MVP award, which will likely go to Bell or Brown.
 
The thing is you could give the team MVP to any of the three and it would be tough for anyone to complain. All three of them are setting team records this season, it's crazy.
 
The excuses for Ben will be Bell and Brown, but they won't use that same criteria when discussing anyone else. Ex, with Manning it will be he makes the players around him better, forget the fact that they throw the ball a TON, and they have a top 5 TE, a top 5 WR, with two top 10 WR's to compliment (even if Welker is having a down year). With Brady, it will be he carries the team, even when his RB's are getting 100-200 yard games with multiple TD's and Gronk is still a mismatch nightmare for any team to defend. They'll point to Rogers "relax statement" and how he has carried his team, forgetting that Nelson is a top 10 WR, Lacy is having a great year, and Cobb is a nice compliment. Romo might get some consideration, but he'll have the same things taken away that Ben will, Dez, Murray, etc. Lucks status has really taken a hit the last few weeks. Despite his absurd yards, and high number of TD passes, he's been turning the ball over quite frequently recently.

No MVP will ever have been benched for Brandon Weeden.

The MVP will always be a popularity contest, and Ben is not a very popular guy in the media. Forget the fact that he is always cordial to them, always answers questions, never throws teammates under the bus, always takes the blame on himself, etc.

Spot on post.

I, too, do not understand Romo suddenly jumping into the MVP conversation, without Roethlisberger being there as well. They're basically in the same situation.

See above. Ben will never win a popularity contest among the media.....

The thing is you could give the team MVP to any of the three and it would be tough for anyone to complain. All three of them are setting team records this season, it's crazy.

I wouldn't want to make that call.
 
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