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Nfl officiating

Back in the 90s, the STEELERS were the recipient of several “apology” letters on Tuesday saying the NFL was sorry to make the wrong call and would try to do better in the future.

Those games that that happened seemed to coincide with sports betting bookings.

Back then no one seemed to correlate, but in todays realm, they have to use plays to manipulate. Example is the NON-call on the Burrow push VS The call on the Mahomes push. One didn’t help extend a drive and the other assured a game winning field goal.

Look at it the way you want but that fact remains.


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The NBA and Tim Donaghy agree.
It’s just entertainment.
 
Too true
Late hit garbage play that should’ve been called

All the outrage because 1 play where it’s too loud to hear the whistle, c’mon
It’s quite obvious from the all 22 that play was indeed stopped

All the Cinncy got screwed nut huggers just don’t realize that this is always how the officiating goes and absolutely nothing from the norm here other than All Star crews are always a bit slower.

Should just take the best crews in their entirety to help with this issue of assembling new crews of all star individuals for the playoffs.

Full time refs that are paid appropriately and a better grading system wouldn’t hurt either

No fix, the NFL is too stupid to pull that off
Piss poor officiating all day tho
Stupid might factor in some but I think it is more that they are to cheap and greedy to hire full time refs.
 
Stupid might factor in some but I think it is more that they are to cheap and greedy to hire full time refs.

Currently the referee is used to manipulate games in a way to keep the layman fan oblivious of the fact. Gotta keep the suspicion off so the betting keeps going.


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I don't think full time refs would help. Stuff happens in milliseconds and the refs have to look at multiple things at a time. Only way to truly fix the inconsistencies would be to goto both officiating. Then you would have to look at every play and it would be time consuming and drastically alter the pace of play
 
Meh like I’ve said before, when I was 19 i went to go work in an off track betting parlor for a local racetrack… before a Steelers Playoff game i was talking to a bartender about the matchup and a dude at the bar told me not to get my hopes up, the fix was in… and basically what he told me that day correlated to what happened in the game….

Im sure It’s harder to target players in this day and age because of the money they make, but occasionally im sure they still get blackmailed… but officials are easy targets… they aren’t in the public eye as much…

And I wouldn’t put it past Herr Goodell to quietly try to drive better narratives for the league
 
Meh like I’ve said before, when I was 19 i went to go work in an off track betting parlor for a local racetrack… before a Steelers Playoff game i was talking to a bartender about the matchup and a dude at the bar told me not to get my hopes up, the fix was in… and basically what he told me that day correlated to what happened in the game….

Im sure It’s harder to target players in this day and age because of the money they make, but occasionally im sure they still get blackmailed… but officials are easy targets… they aren’t in the public eye as much…

And I wouldn’t put it past Herr Goodell to quietly try to drive better narratives for the league
The league doesn’t need players to be in on it. All it takes is bad officiating to determine an outcome.

An nfl football play is just 5-10 seconds. Within that time frame, especially in the trenches there is always going to be holding etc. It’s what the refs choose to call and what determining factors.

There are always going to be fringe groups in fabrics of society that are going to draw conspiracies out of anything. Pro sports is not immune. And at times I find the conspiracies believable. There is just too much money involved in pro sports to think it’s pure. The championships etc are novelty for the fans and the community. Owners and multi million dollar athletes are just trying to get theirs in whatever time frame they have.
 
Meh like I’ve said before, when I was 19 i went to go work in an off track betting parlor for a local racetrack… before a Steelers Playoff game i was talking to a bartender about the matchup and a dude at the bar told me not to get my hopes up, the fix was in… and basically what he told me that day correlated to what happened in the game….

Im sure It’s harder to target players in this day and age because of the money they make, but occasionally im sure they still get blackmailed… but officials are easy targets… they aren’t in the public eye as much…

And I wouldn’t put it past Herr Goodell to quietly try to drive better narratives for the league
Thats why NY is in the ear of the ref for the important plays especially near the end of close games
 
I thought the only "bad", or maybe just "suspicious" call, was when the KC player reached out for the first down. It was spotted short at first, but then it was challenged and they went to commercial. They came back from commercial and it was a first down, with minimal replays shown to the viewer, and certainly nothing that showed a clear first down. I thought the spot was a little short, but I didn't think his reach out was over the line of gain. I just couldn't tell. I don't think they should go to commercial in that situation. It makes it seem shady.

Also, later in the game I believe, the bengals had a call get overturned in their favor without having to challenge it. It wasn't a scoring play or turnover, it wasn't in the last 2 minutes. I think the refs (or NY) watched the replay, and decided to save the bengals a challenge. That always seems shady too.
 
Thats why NY is in the ear of the ref for the important plays especially near the end of close games
The thingvthat always seems suspicious about the new york input was, if you remember, the NFL didn’t admit that the refs were in contact with the league fir the first couple years they did it. Eventually it leaked out and then they admitted new York had input on calls… that was when the “the league is steering results” thing really picked up steam…
 
Just one jaded fan’s take on the NFL…

The NFL became entertainment and not sport in legality years ago, newsflash…it is not even legally considered or intended to be an even field for the competition (sport)

It is just what it legally claims to be-entertainment, a show
If the NFL has indeed introduced a script/narrative/story line it simply fits the entertainment industry the NFL has joined.

There simply can’t be a fix…a script, sure

Is it a fix in a pro wrestling match (also considered entertainment-not sport)?

Recently with all the in game interviews and sideline stuff it’s just a few years from guys going full on nuts for the cameras like the wrassling match it has become.

That people still gamble the NFL only makes cents if you’ve read the script
 
Somewhere, Al Riveron is smiling.


Yep, O'l Al taught me the value of the New Your 7minute. In reference to the review process under the hood is only supposed to be a 1-minute deal. All this in reference to the Jesse James TD catch reversal.


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1987 or 88 I believe.

I have to disagree with mightyguru, it was Cowher as head coach at the time.

Either way it was way to many for any team yet alone the steelers. Those mistakes were at a costly time in the season and the actual game changing event.


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I have to disagree with mightyguru, it was Cowher as head coach at the time.

Either way it was way to many for any team yet alone the steelers. Those mistakes were at a costly time in the season and the actual game changing event.


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It happened under Noll as well, trust me.
 
I have to disagree with mightyguru, it was Cowher as head coach at the time.

Either way it was way to many for any team yet alone the steelers. Those mistakes were at a costly time in the season and the actual game changing event.


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Yes, one time I think they ram the clock when they weren't supposed to, and that cost us a game vs the browns I believe. That was a costly loss.

Joe
 
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