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Joaquin Phoenix reaction when asked if he is a better actor than Russell Crowe:

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joaquin sucked in Gladiator

Disagree. He was an exquisite villain. Sociopath, coward, liar, manipulator, someone who shows up after the fighting is over to pretend he was part of the battle. Excellent in portraying the evil antagonist.
 

I suspect the problem here, Coolie, is that Phoenix's superb characterization of Commodus in Gladiator paled in comparison to the glowing Klieg-light brilliance of one Russell Crowe.

That simply proves my original point.
 
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Joaquin Phoenix is indeed awesome. Gladiator, Signs, and Walk the Line show his skills.

Great actor? Yes.

Better than Russell Crowe? No.

Respectfully disagree but this is all subjective and kind of fun.

Another guy not mentioned here is Geoffrey Rush — anyone else a fan?
 
Respectfully disagree but this is all subjective and kind of fun.

Another guy not mentioned here is Geoffrey Rush — anyone else a fan?
Good actor but not top tier. Played a good pirate.
 
I suspect the problem here, Coolie, is that Phoenix's superb characterization of Commodus in Gladiator paled in comparison to the glowing Klieg-light brilliance of one Russell Crowe.

That simply proves my original point.

I mean, it’s hard to argue with is well-thought out, cogent, detailed analysis.
 
Disagree. He was an exquisite villain. Sociopath, coward, liar, manipulator, someone who shows up after the fighting is over to pretend he was part of the battle. Excellent in portraying the evil antagonist.
i understand a guy like you would identify with a character like that...but the portrayal was poor..he is to movies what lloyd is to football discussion
 
I would say Bale, Denzel and DDL are my top 3.
Cruise is like Arnold and Stallone. Great movies with great action but questionable acting skills
 
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