I think there is enough potential on the oline that one or two high picks and some growth and development with what they got and you could put a road grade line with a great RB. Or you could try to reclaim Devin Bush by putting a proper DT to help him (as ******* horrible as he looks it isn't helping how clean the blockers get to him). I go Oline. They probably go DT to prop up Tomlin's side of the ball.
OL or DT in the draft?
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Hey, TJ Watt was a freaking awesome pick, so how about another LB'er? Make it 6 of the past 8 first-rounders to team with Jarvis Jones, Bud Dupree, and Devin Bust.
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I say go O-Line as your priority for talent and depth. The problem with looking for defensive linemen is that this team doesn't know what it wants to be. All these years later and it isn't clear if they want to be a 3-4, a 4-3 or some weird hybrid of the Tampa 2.
God, how I miss the days of Smith, Snack and Von Oelhoffen.
What I believe they DO need is yet another middle linebacker. As far as I can tell either Bush is done, or he's simply TRYING to get out and get a deal with a new team. (Ironically, the way he's been playing this year, he'd have to do some academy award winning acting to convince a team he not only isn't seriously ****** up due to his knee injury but that he ALSO isn't purposefully playing at half speed this season to avoid getting hurt.
God, how I miss the days of Smith, Snack and Von Oelhoffen.
What I believe they DO need is yet another middle linebacker. As far as I can tell either Bush is done, or he's simply TRYING to get out and get a deal with a new team. (Ironically, the way he's been playing this year, he'd have to do some academy award winning acting to convince a team he not only isn't seriously ****** up due to his knee injury but that he ALSO isn't purposefully playing at half speed this season to avoid getting hurt.
$52M in cap space next year. They can shore up one or the other (maybe both) in FA. What they CAN'T do is their usual bargain basement FA shopping after they see what they get in the draft.
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52 M in cap space which is great but somehow thought they had more. Anyway, we need to spend on both OL,DL, ILB, CB and as you say SteelBuckeye, not on cheap free agents that are just guys.
I’d resign JuJu, JayWash and play him, and try and move Claypool out of here. If you can get a second for him he should be gone.
I will add, if they show a real commitment to
Improving this football team on both sides of the ball, maybe just maybe they can persuade Ben to come back for one last season.
I’d resign JuJu, JayWash and play him, and try and move Claypool out of here. If you can get a second for him he should be gone.
I will add, if they show a real commitment to
Improving this football team on both sides of the ball, maybe just maybe they can persuade Ben to come back for one last season.
If Ben comes back you can kiss 20 million of the 52 goodbye at least. And though he would give you a better chance to win 9 or 10 games there is no way they contend with or without him. Pointless. Time to move past the illusion.
IMO, if we're within 5 slots of Jordan Love in the first round, I package our first and Claypool to move up for him.
Heyward is getting long in the tooth, but still playing great. Imagine our "d" if Heyward wasnt on the field.
With Love and Adams ... two NTs on the field and both able to provide push, with Heyward, we'd be better. Wormley has played admirably, but he's not on the same level as a Jordan Love. Though if we stopped ******* running DLs out every goddamned play, maybe they'd not be as winded.
Heyward is getting long in the tooth, but still playing great. Imagine our "d" if Heyward wasnt on the field.
With Love and Adams ... two NTs on the field and both able to provide push, with Heyward, we'd be better. Wormley has played admirably, but he's not on the same level as a Jordan Love. Though if we stopped ******* running DLs out every goddamned play, maybe they'd not be as winded.
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I could see Claypool shining somewhere else. I think he is immature, but he still has potential. I would like to sign JuJu, but i don't see it happening. Bush is obviously playing terrible and could see him get cut next camp, but not before. it doesn't matter who we draft, but we absolutely have to fill holes via free agency with non- scrubs
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It depends on what the Steelers do with Alualu and Tuitt after the season. If these guys are back, you have Loudermilk coming back and he is slowly developing into a quality rotational player. Maybe you can afford to wait until the second or third to take a DL. There isn't a single OL position I'd rule out early. They're all replaceable at this point. If Tyler Linderbaum is there, you have to take him.
Im drafting OL. Center or LT.
then ILB or DT. Im in charge? I let bush go early. F' that extra year. I seen enough.
Then a S or CB. But our track record.... idk.
then ILB or DT. Im in charge? I let bush go early. F' that extra year. I seen enough.
Then a S or CB. But our track record.... idk.
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I would be 100 percent fine with this and it would be an incredibly smart offseason. Cornerback is a huge need and this draft is loaded with talent at the top. Also, if my option is watching the Steelers go 6-11 or 7-10 next year with mediocre Mason or get 8-9 wins with a 40-year old Ben, give me Ben for another year. The way things sound, the Steelers aren't going to draft a QB high and even if they do, they'll need a stopgap QB.
draft the besr RT in round 1, as far as QB target Riddler in round 2, and a true NT like 6"3 330 fat **** that is known from college as a clogger, we should have gotten someone like Shelvin, Fotu in 2020, or last year, there were several. Looking at the CB you got to make a run at Gilmore, Rhodes, Peterson, and retain Witherspoon, Maulet and Norwood are ST guys that are not good enough to play full time in the slot. A top-end RT like Cam Robinson at 25 will cost a lot, considering Minkah gets paid and if ben returns the minimum I see is 1 year 13-15 mill.
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I'm thinking the Steelers might...might, get a 10-15 first round pick next year. The only choice IMO is OL and I don't care which position, it can be center, guard or tackle. The Steelers need to take the highest rated OL available period. Green can move back to guard if he has to for all I care. Not only do they need a top flight OL in the draft, they need to pick up a top OL FA. Anything less and you will see the same garbage next year. It's been way too long for the Steelers to address their OL issues. The last totally competent OL the Steelers fielded was back when Faneca, Hartings and Smith were clearing lanes.
Colbert is probably done this year. If ben is gone, he is too.
It's true on D, we run with too many 2 man DL fronts. That just doesn't work against the big uglies on the OL. You need at least 3 and then your OLB's can do their thing more consistently as well as the ILB's.
We need both. I said in another thread, I think they draft the BPA for either OL or DL (a stud in the middle capable of playing all 3 downs. The dude from Georgia probably ain't it. As great as he is against the run, he only plays a few plays and then comes off the play for a handful of plays. You need to be in much better shape than that to play in the NFL) in the 1st round and then go opposite with BPA at the OL or DL they didn't choose in the 1st. They have to hope to get 2 legit day 1 starters. Starting CB should be addressed through free agency. We may need 2 since it is becoming obvious Haden is gone. Tuitt will be gone on the D-line as well so we may need 1 or 2 free agents there as well. And, we very well may need another starting caliber ILB to go along with our need for at least a No. 3 QB, if not someone to compete with Rudolph. We have a looooooooooong list of needs but OL and DL (in no particular order) are the tops.
We need both. I said in another thread, I think they draft the BPA for either OL or DL (a stud in the middle capable of playing all 3 downs. The dude from Georgia probably ain't it. As great as he is against the run, he only plays a few plays and then comes off the play for a handful of plays. You need to be in much better shape than that to play in the NFL) in the 1st round and then go opposite with BPA at the OL or DL they didn't choose in the 1st. They have to hope to get 2 legit day 1 starters. Starting CB should be addressed through free agency. We may need 2 since it is becoming obvious Haden is gone. Tuitt will be gone on the D-line as well so we may need 1 or 2 free agents there as well. And, we very well may need another starting caliber ILB to go along with our need for at least a No. 3 QB, if not someone to compete with Rudolph. We have a looooooooooong list of needs but OL and DL (in no particular order) are the tops.
I agree with all of this but the end Munchak fielded a couple of amazing olines with Pouncey, Decastro, AL etc. That was a point where it was like what would it actually take to win a SB with Tomlin as the HC.
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Jordan love? I’d keep our first, Claypool and start Rudolph
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OL is where I'd actually invest 1st rnd, DL 2nd rnd.. FA is the wild card, they may bring in "starting material" FA to either trench.
You and I know the trench work is where it all starts. As for Devin Bush, The day to day is how that decision needs to be made on the "saving" of him. We don't know if injury factor or mental is his cause of where he is at. That decision NEEDS to be made off season or durring TC but a contigency plan needs to be made before the fact not after the fact.
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Davis only plays 2 or 3 plays and then comes off the field for a handful of plays. That won't cut it in the NFL. He does stuff the run when he is in there and can get after the QB but if he can't stay on the field much, much more, he isn't worth it. Even the announcers were saying to watch him. After a certain number of plays (I believe it was 3), he will motion to the sidelines to take him out. Sure enough, that is what happened. If you could get a true part-timer like him in the 3rd round, then maybe but I can't see using a starting pick (1st or 2nd round) on a guy like him unless you knew you could get him to play a whole lot more than that, including on 3rd downs. Then again, if he is sitting there in round 2, I might have a hard time not pulling the trigger. He'd be the closest thing since Big Snack we have seen. It would probably take him a couple years to truly get in any kind of "NFL shape" though.
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