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Pickens would not have had this success here

You have a two tier problem between not having a # 2 and a mediocre offensive line. Every wide receiver combo in the NFL that goes over 1,000 per season for both guys(and there are plenty) beg to differ with what you are saying. I just had that discussion with someone here not long ago who was trying to discredit the idea of a #2 and I listed the many 1 and 2 combos that excel in the NFL.

Now, the mediocre offensive line is helped by having that # 2 especially if he's a great possession guy...think Hines Ward. They are helped because you can scheme for that # 2 and your tight ends coming open quick so the ball can come out quick....

So, now as a defense you can't sit comfortably in your 2 high shell as James Harrison said on his podcast " They had the one safety leaning over to DKs side not even disguising it." And if you don't know what that is saying, it's your opponent saying "your other pass catchers suck and we know it." You have a good # 2 that can make possession catches get fed frequently in a game and you see an opposing D start sliding into 1 high and bring a safety down to help the linebackers on the crossing routes and outs. Now DK is turned loose. It's not rocket science. And of course that scenario is different if you have a consistent running game as well...we don't.

I'll also address the " You won't even hardly use a # 2 in Arthur Smith's offense." argument many around here misunderstand. There is no such thing as an Arthur Smith offense...just like there isn't an Andy Reid offense or Shanahan offense..or anyone you can think of. All modern NFL offenses are descended from Bill Walsh's West Coast Offense. Sure things have changed where you run out of single back or empty and the QB not under center, but it's basically still the same offense with things that have been added like RPOs, zone running, pistol formations, etc. Do you think Brady won all those Super Bowls with some unique and brilliant new offense? Nope, thank or curse Bill Walsh.

Having said that, all NFL offenses customize their philosophy out of that West Coast schematic core to the personnel they have....are you following? So " Arthur Smith's offense" can change on the fly dependent on personnel...because they ALL can...on any team. Do some OCs have a preference they lean toward? Of course they do, but a smart one adapts. Remember Todd Haley at KC before he came to the Steelers? He had a running back duo(forget the guys names) and he pounded every opponent with those guys. Came to Pittsburgh had Ben, AB, Wallace, and later Martavis Bryant...and it became bombs away.

I have no doubt Smith would change his play calling if he had a legit #2.

And the guys you mention(like Jefferson) I don't intimately know what their team personnel looks like...Do they have a good running game? A good O-line? A mobile QB throwing to them? Things that change the dynamic from team to team.
Jefferson is having by far the worst year of his career. He is still far more productive than DK. With a worse QB and worse run game.
Dk is a #2 getting paid like a top 3 WR

Arthur smith is a Bum but, I agree the offense would be night and day better with a true #1 WR
 
They are looking pretty stupid for it


I don’t share that opinion in fact I would like another WR with equal production to pair with him on the other side.
 
You have the right to not like Pickens, don't let it blind you from reality.
Pickens is 2nd in the league in yards 3rd in TD.
Dk is 30th in the league
The problem is and has been our front office and coaches.
Florio and Simms on PFT had a 7 minute diatribe on the Disaster the Steelers created by trading for metcalf and trading away Pickens.
Outlining the fact that it cost them 34 million to downgrade the player.
I really don't dislike Pickens, or like him for that matter. It's not about that.
 
What are you even saying at this point?
The suggestion was Tomlin was not the reason Pickens wasn't as productive here because AB previously had success. Tomlin is absolutely a reason our offense is held back and it's assinine to suggest otherwise.
 
The suggestion was Tomlin was not the reason Pickens wasn't as productive here because AB previously had success. Tomlin is absolutely a reason our offense is held back and it's assinine to suggest otherwise.
Hes the reason in what sense??
 
I guess...at this point if Danny Smith trips and chokes to death on his gum its Tomlins fault so im all for putting the blame on him for anything. It is what it is.
Habitual tendencies have to be directed to the root of the result or the lack thereof , right?
 
Habitual tendencies have to be directed to the root of the result or the lack thereof , right?
I was looking for something more concrete to be honest...something more specific that we can directly attribute to him w/o question. Not just saying its his fault, because its convenient and low hanging fruit. For example I have no confidence in Rodgers or Slay starting this Sunday, but if they play this would obviously be a coaching decision. One of the more negative attributes of Tomlin is that he can be stubborn sometimes, prob too much for any of our liking. The eye test is there for him to see that its not a good idea to start either of those players over the better alternatives. If he does start them and they lose to the Bears i can see it flat out being Tomlin's fault because I can see both of those players being a reason for the loss.
 
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I was looking for something more concrete to be honest...something more specific that we can directly attribute to him w/o question. For example I have no confidence in Rodgers or Slay starting this Sunday, but if they play this would obviously be a coaching decision. One of the more negative attributes of Tomlin is that he can be stubborn sometimes, prob too much for any of our liking. The eye test is there for him to see that its not a good idea to start either of those players. If he does staet them and they lose to the Bears i can see it flat out being Tomlin's fault because I can see both of those players being a reason for the loss.
Nothing more concrete than a playoff track record of futility and even worse losing in an embarrassingly uncompetitive manner.

That is a larger scope compared to a single game oops my bad.

mi scusi!😅
 
Jefferson is having by far the worst year of his career. He is still far more productive than DK. With a worse QB and worse run game.
Dk is a #2 getting paid like a top 3 WR

Arthur smith is a Bum but, I agree the offense would be night and day better with a true #1 WR

What has been their opponent defensive strength on a case by case basis? How good is their O-line at pass pro?

Funny how you don't mention Addison...he has 412 yards receiving to Jefferson's 747. That makes life a lot easier for Jefferson...hell if Addison is their #2 then Nailor is 2B or maybe 3...and he has 318 yards receiving so far. I researched that because I don't know their team, but I do know things like this aren't as simple as you think.

DK has 551 yards with NO #2.... What do we have for a #2? Well first of all we don't have a legit 2 , but let's say Austin is it. How many yards does he have? He has 242 yards so far.....LOL. And he is our top receiver not named Metcalf in yards.

How is that helping DK? It's not. That's why teams are able at times to take him(DK) out of games and that leaves Rodgers running for his life looking for one of the scrubs to come open.
 
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