But see One for the Bus that is the bullshit of the internet. You can literally find a stat to support virtually any argument you want. Because as Twain said, there are lies, damn lies and there are statistics. I literally know of not one people in all the ardent gun owners that I know that feels the need to keep a loaded gun at his/ her reach. Zero, none. So when you say overall crime rate what does that entail. Break into my car. I really don't give a **** about that. That is an annoyance. Murder and rape of people in their home. Well, then I would be concerned. The US incarcerates how many people compared to the rest of the first world?