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Political talk. Deal or no deal

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Would you be for or against this political deal if it happened.

Dems give Trump 10 billion for border security and a wall.


Trump suspends the sale of semi-automatic assault rifles by creating a 2 year waiting list, that includes a better background check.


While this might not curve the assault rifle attack, liberals won't be thinking about that. However, it might decrease the 32,000+ deaths
to opioids overdose that we had in 2018.
 
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No deal. We have millions upon millions of semi automatic rifles in circulation. If you go banning them you will just create a black market and make criminals out of 99.8% of the normal Americans who own them. Don't punish me because we turned our society into a garbage heap.
 
100% non-starter.

I don't mind background checks if they are conducted at retailers. If the background checks come back that the person is ineligible because they are felons or illegals, the government should contact the local police and have them pick the person up at the gun shop.

When it comes to making private citizens get one to sell a gun, no. If I want to sell a gun to someone I've known for years, I don't need government permission to do so.
 
Nope. I hope that helps
 
Yes, I am all for further restricting rights with gestures that do nothing to help anything.

Along those lines, I better stop procrastinating on that AR purchase.
 
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/05/mass-shooting-trump-suggests-linking-gun-control-immigration-laws/1919672001/?fbclid=IwAR0nFaWG_J957iNNWQ-I-bYgnYDHYpKK_B6-cNC00vfdUrjLv0J-7gCAjFE

Donald Trump suggests linking gun control legislation to immigration laws

David Jackson, USA TODAY Published 7:25 a.m. ET Aug. 5, 2019 | Updated 9:08 a.m. ET Aug. 5, 2019

WASHINGTON – After two mass shootings over the weekend, President Donald Trump suggested Monday that Congress link immigration laws to new legislation requiring stronger background checks for gun buyers.

"Republicans and Democrats must come together and get strong background checks, perhaps marrying his legislation with desperately needed immigration reform," Trump tweeted in response to the shootings in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio.

He did not provide details on possible legislation regarding gun control, background checks, or immigration.

Democrats have objected to past Trump immigration proposals – especially his call for a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border – and said his harsh rhetoric about some migrants are contributing to a climate of hate. They ridiculed the notion of tying gun control to illegal immigration, especially in a case where one of the shooters listed illegal immigration as a motive.

"What's the connection between background checks for guns and immigration reform?" said Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, speaking on MSNBC. "That we have to keep guns out of the hands out of the invading hordes?"

Trump tweeted hours before he is scheduled to give a 10 a.m. speech at the White House on the weekend killings.

"We cannot let those killed in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, die in vain," said Trump, who may visit those cities later this week. "Likewise for those so seriously wounded. We can never forget them, and those many who came before them."


Donald J. Trump

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We cannot let those killed in El Paso, Texas, and Dayton, Ohio, die in vain. Likewise for those so seriously wounded. We can never forget them, and those many who came before them. Republicans and Democrats must come together and get strong background checks, perhaps marrying....


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
....this legislation with desperately needed immigration reform. We must have something good, if not GREAT, come out of these two tragic events!

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He added: "We must have something good, if not GREAT, come out of these two tragic events!"

The president's critics noted that the El Paso shooter reportedly wrote a "manifesto" that expressed concern about an "invasion" of the United States by Hispanics, using language similar to that of Trump.

They accused Trump of helping create an environment of violence, from denouncing some migrants as murderers and rapists to saying there were "very fine people" on both sides of a 2017 white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va.

"In May, Trump said we are being 'invaded' by immigrants," tweeted Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., "The El Paso shooter said he wanted to stop the 'invasion.'"

McGovern also cited an incident from a rally in Florida: "Trump asked his rally crowd: 'How do you stop these people' from crossing the border? 'Shoot them!' Someone screamed. He laughed. Then the crowd laughed."


Rep. Jim McGovern

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In May, Trump said we are being “invaded” by immigrants. The El Paso shooter said he wanted to stop the “invasion.”

Trump asked his rally crowd: "How do you stop these people" from crossing the border?

"Shoot them!" Someone screamed.

He laughed. Then the crowd laughed.

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Trump, who has not addressed the El Paso killer's manifesto, blamed the news media for the negative environment.

In another early morning tweet, Trump claimed that "Fake News has contributed greatly to the anger and rage that has built up over many years."

Trump is expected to visit the sites of the shootings later this week. The Associated Press reported that the Federal Aviation Administration has issued advisories of VIP travel to El Paso and Dayton on Wednesday.

Supporters of the president said Trump faces an important moment in addressing the shootings.

Anthony Scaramucci, the former White House communications director, told CNN that Trump is at risk of losing supporters who like his policies, but fear the divisive rhetoric is overwhelming his presidency.

"There's not even a question about that," he said.
 
Doesn't fix the problem. The problem is too many people walking around with mental health issues. If they don't have a gun it might be a rental van full of fertilizer. Oops been done before.
 
No.

Opidios are also coming from China. A wall on the Southern Border will not address that. Banning sales of guns will also not address that. Putting honest people in the gun industry out of work will not address that.

No.
 
What in the hell are opidios?

My eyes teared up with laughter.

I have a great Mexican guy I work with (and one of my closest friends) and we were already laughing about it this morning. Now it's being echoed throughout "Where is the Opidios?" What in the Opidios are you saying?" "Opidios Mio!" etc. Yeah, it's entertaining the whole workplace for the time being.
 
Never, ever, ever get into a deal with (D)ims where you say, "If you give me [x], then you get [y]." Why? Because (D)ims always get theirs and never give what they promised.

Look at the 1986 immigration "reform." Millions of illegals turned into (D)im voters, California turned into a (D)shithole, and not one goddamn measure put in place to stem the flow of illegals. NOT ONE.
 
What in the hell are opidios?

My eyes teared up with laughter.

I think they're some type of durg you can get at the hospitaz.
 
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