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Roethlisberger ‘Disappointed’ in AB

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As was reported here, Antonio Brown was very upset that Ben Roethlisberger missed him on a passing play early in the second quarter.

Roethlisberger defended his receiver on Sunday calling him a ‘competitor’ and saying that Brown was a playmaker who just wanted to help his team win. He had a different tone today when […]

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I don't see this AB blow up as a negative in the way the other receivers you mentioned in your article ****** with the team chemistry. AB is a competitor and knew he had a big play. Ben has been locking into receivers IMO instead of working his progressions. On this play Ben had more time than he probably felt he had.
 
One never knows, but perhaps Ben hinted at retirement because he's tried of Coaching issues ( He has called Haley out before ), and diva teammates getting suspended or acting up.

Brown is on his way to the hall of fame, but he has been a distraction before.

I also think Ben wanted to stand with Al during the national anthem debacle, which was handled worst than any other NFL team. Tomlin stopped on other beliefs by ordering a unity stance on a very close vote, which happens to match his political beliefs.

If Ben's last name was Manning things might be a little different. I guess two super bowl rings and a tremendous record as the starting QB isn't enough.
 
Tomlin also was not happy with AB either. They both said it could be a distraction, Tomlin said hes a professional and needs to act like it.

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I don't see this AB blow up as a negative in the way the other receivers you mentioned in your article ****** with the team chemistry. AB is a competitor and knew he had a big play. Ben has been locking into receivers IMO instead of working his progressions. On this play Ben had more time than he probably felt he had.
Ben made the read he was supposed to on that play, and was starting to throw when AB broke open

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One never knows, but perhaps Ben hinted at retirement because he's tried of Coaching issues ( He has called Haley out before ), and diva teammates getting suspended or acting up.

Brown is on his way to the hall of fame, but he has been a distraction before.

I also think Ben wanted to stand with Al during the national anthem debacle, which was handled worst than any other NFL team. Tomlin stopped on other beliefs by ordering a unity stance on a very close vote, which happens to match his political beliefs.

If Ben's last name was Manning things might be a little different. I guess two super bowl rings and a tremendous record as the starting QB isn't enough.

What's tomlin belief on on kneeling or standing?
 
What's tomlin belief on on kneeling or standing?

Well he is a liberal who hosted a Hillary Clinton fund raiser in his house. Take your best guess.
 
Tomlin also was not happy with AB either. They both said it could be a distraction, Tomlin said hes a professional and needs to act like it.

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Tomlin can not control his players. He had issues with Pouncey sending out tweets that contradicted the Steelers medical reports.

Prior to undoubtedly pissing some people off who wanted to stand on the field, Tomlin had locker room game rules which differed for veterans.

He is not united the team, quite the opposite and this could be part of the reason why the team lacks focus.
 
Well he is a liberal who hosted a Hillary Clinton fund raiser in his house. Take your best guess.

Whatever his beliefs are he said they should be done on their own time. On their free time
 
I also think Ben wanted to stand with Al during the national anthem debacle, which was handled worst than any other NFL team. Tomlin stopped on other beliefs by ordering a unity stance on a very close vote, which happens to match his political beliefs.

Wasn't Tomlin standing on the sideline during the anthem? Of all this kneeling or standing BS, Tomlin has remained as neutral as anyone...at least to the public.
 
What i find sad is with all this info available people choose to not find as much info as possible before spewing and making up ****.
 
Inside the Steelers' meeting that led to them staying off the field during national anthem



By Jacob Klinger jklinger@pennlive.com
CHICAGO -- No one person called Steelers players together Saturday night.

Chris Hubbard found out there would be a players-only meeting because fullback Roosevelt Nix texted to tell him as much. Teammates spread word of the meeting organically, passing word onto one another when they were told of it.

Every player that traveled with the team to Chicago attended. And after their regularly scheduled game day eve session with the coaching staff - but before bed checks - they gathered in a meeting room at the team hotel, the JW Marriott at 151 W. Adams St. downtown, to debate, then vote on how they would respond to comments made by president Donald Trump suggesting NFL owners "fire" players who kneel during the national anthem to protest racial inequality and police brutality.

Multiple players said that before the vote they had come to the understanding that whatever the team ultimately decided, by popular show of hands, would determine what they would all do while the "Star-Spangled Banner" was sung before Sunday's 1 p.m. ET kickoff with the Chicago Bears. Some disagreement remained after the game on if left tackle and Bronze Star Army Ranger Alejandro Villanueva would be exempt from the collective decision.


Ben Roethlisberger introduced the players' three choices, Hubbard said.

They could stand along the sideline holding hands.

They could stay off the field, which they did.

Or they could take the sideline with some players kneeling, some standing and some of the standing putting their hands on the shoulders of the kneeling.

"The mixed one, that really got eliminated," Hubbard said.

About 15 players, Hubbard said, spoke before the vote, including Ramon Foster, James Harrison, Cameron Heyward, Vance McDonald, Mike Mitchell, Maurkice Pouncey, Roethlisberger, Villanueva and Vince Williams.

McDonald said he did not advocate for any particular position other than following through with the result of the vote. The tight end was traded to Pittsburgh on Aug. 29 from the San Francisco 49ers, where Colin Kaepernick kickstarted the movement of players protesting racial inequality and police brutality during the 2016 preseason -- first by sitting, then by kneeling during the anthem.


He made two points to the teammates he's had for less than a month.

"The position I took was that A.) I was happy with the situation I was currently in of having a meeting, a players' meeting about the topic, was great. Because that's not something that we did in San Francisco," McDonald said. "And the second part of that being that the majority of the room, or really everyone in the room, wanted to do the same thing.

"So again, not taking away anyone's place of having a platform through social media, through whatever they want to do in the community, whether it's off days or whatever, but what we were going to do before the game: Because in that place we are all together, we are all one, we are all one single thing and that's the Steelers."

The debate itself was uncomfortable in spots, but constructive, Coty Sensabaugh said. There was no yelling or anger with one another, he said.


Those who did address the group before the vote, Heyward said, challenged each other and their fellow players not to broken by whatever outcome they reached.

He personally insisted his teammates do more than whatever act of solidarity it chose to perform during the performance.

"Whether it's racial inequality or inspiring others to grow up and be leaders in our community, and there's multiple ways you can give back. And all over this world we've been affected," Heyward said. "In Virginia, in hurricanes, there are multiple people that need our help.

"And it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Mexican, Asian, doesn't matter what you look like or how you grew up, everybody deserves help and everybody deserves to be inspired. And to not feel that from the president, that's unacceptable."

The meeting lasted 15 minutes, Williams said.


It ended with a team of players that had never personally or collectively demonstrated during the national anthem deciding to stay out of sight while the song was sung. Yet there was no shift that prompted the decision, Williams said.

"Nothing changed," he said.

The vote was split nearly in half, Hubbard said. The part-kneeling, part-standing choice never made the verbal ballot. Sensabaugh confirmed the narrow majority.

Villanueva went on to stand outside the away team tunnel with his right hand over his chest at 12:57 p.m. while his teammates stayed in the bowels of Soldier Field. He was OK with everyone else not appearing for the anthem and everyone else accepted there would be an exception for Villanueva, Hubbard said. Ramon Foster also said the team supported Villanueva standing just off of the field during the anthem performance.


"Al was cool with it, with whatever we went through. He was on board. That's Al, man," Hubbard said. "He's a good guy."

Harrison did not think anyone was exempt.

"We thought we were all in attention with the same agreement, obviously, " he said. "But, I guess we weren't."

Villanueva was not seen in the locker room after the game. He has previously stated he agreed with Kaepernick on issues of racial inequality, but not his method of not standing for the anthem.

The players' decision was relayed to Mike Tomlin and Tomlin called league commissioner Roger Goodell on Sunday and told him his players' plan.

He, running backs coach James Saxon, offensive coordinator Todd Haley and offensive line coach Mike Munchak stood in the middle of the sideline while his players stood elsewhere.

And Tomlin, who said he wanted the team's actions to be collective, also said he stood by his players' decision.


"We will not be divided on this," Tomlin said. We got a group of men in there that come from different socioeconomic backgrounds, races, creed, ethnicities and religions, and so forth. That's football. That's a lot of team sports, but because of our position, we get drug into bulls---, to be quite honest with you.

"Some have opinions. Some don't. We wanted to protect those that don't. We wanted to protect those that do
 
AB is a great receiver, no question, but he’s too damn selfish and with antics like he pulled is a poor example to the young guys.
I think Ben has grown tired of it all and I applaud him for speaking up. Brown needs to put his stats aside and focus on what’s important, winning and not whining.
Hopefully this does not influence Ben to force the ball to Brown to keep him happy. We shall see!


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Wasn't Tomlin standing on the sideline during the anthem? Of all this kneeling or standing BS, Tomlin has remained as neutral as anyone...at least to the public.

He said he wanted team unity in the locker room after the player vote which was close, but I guess if he was on the sidelines, it did not apply to him.
 
Ben is a piss poor leader. He had time to think about his response and he threw him under the bus? I wish they would all shut the Hell up and play ball, they’re all a bunch of whiners.


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Hopefully this does not influence Ben to force the ball to Brown to keep him happy [/url]
Everyone knew Ben was going to Brown on that next play to appease the tantrum, and he did. I see this week being Brown-focused.
 
Ben is a piss poor leader. He had time to think about his response and he threw him under the bus? I wish they would all shut the Hell up and play ball, they’re all a bunch of whiners.


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Maybe they've tried talking to him and it's not getting through? Both he and Tomlin are saying the same thing, so something's going on. AB apparently cares very much about his reputation so perhaps they think airing it out through the media is a way to get him to knock it off. I don't necessarily agree with it (wish everything was kept in-house) but I'm just trying to see this for what it is. Ben doesn't throw teammates under the bus normally and Tomlin seems pretty fed up as well.
 
See this what I’m talking about. This team is not about just AB. It’s a team effort and AB has got to understand that. This has gone on way too long and Tomlin needs to do what he’s paid to do and coach this team. He’s not being paid to be a cheerleader but to lead this football team.
Ben did what he should have and let him know that crap is a distraction, so now it’s Tomlin’s turn to try and get through to him


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Ben is a piss poor leader. He had time to think about his response and he threw him under the bus? I wish they would all shut the Hell up and play ball, they’re all a bunch of whiners.


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Maybe that's what that cry baby AB needs! Ben did talk to him during the game, he always does, same thing last year, I'm guessing Ben is sick of babysitting and is calling him out. It's not like he went to media and volunteered this, he was asked directly. I don't get why AB can act like a 3 year old all the time and it's oh that's just AB being AB, but the minute Ben comes down on it, Ben is the bad guy. No wonder Bradshaw hates Pittsburgh

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See this what I’m talking about. This team is not about just AB. It’s a team effort and AB has got to understand that. This has gone on way too long and Tomlin needs to do what he’s paid to do and coach this team. He’s not being paid to be a cheerleader but to lead this football team.
Ben did what he should have and let him know that crap is a distraction, so now it’s Tomlin’s turn to try and get through to him


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Didnt they say the same thing ??
 
Didnt they say the same thing ??

Uh! Not really! Tomlin made a quick comment about not being his first rodeo and be a professional. About as good as you can expect from Tomlin.

Ben: had a 5 minute sound bite on it. Even made the comment which surprised me, that Heath Miller would never act that way. Ben was more vocal about a player than I’ve ever heard him. Said it was unfortunate he acted that way. That we’re all competitors and we all want the ball. This won’t sit well with Brown.


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How in the **** is Ben a piss poor leader? Come on that’s total bullshit. Some of you have too short of memories between the span of Bradshaw and Ben.
Better enjoy it while you can.


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