Same ****...different day.

[Steel Truckin]

Need a tampon??? Quit your whinin'...

I'm not whinin'. I'm just telling you the way it's gonna be.

 

[Wingman]

USAF, Ben is 32 and could potentially have 5 solid seasons left in him. His best football may still be yet to come as this offense continues to evolve. He didn't have the best two games these last couple weeks and now you want to let him walk? Come on man! Ben is the only reason we have a chance year in and year out. We got damn lucky when he fell in our laps in 2004, and can you imagine where this team would have been the last 11 seasons without him?

Teams draft QB's every year and as you probably know, it's always a crapshoot. Look how many flops that have been drafted the past 11 seasons, some very high picks, even #1 picks. You know the Bens, Rogers, Lucks, Rivers and Eli's are few and far between and you want to let Ben just walk? As I said to you earlier, then what? We have no one on the roster that's a starter so that leaves F/A and the draft.

No, the Steeler plan will be to extend Ben 5-6 years and use a high draft pick, maybe a number one within the next 3-5 years to be Ben's back-up and learn from him. The Steelers do some crazy **** at times but they're certainly not fools and won't let Ben walk.

I suspect that we have seen Ben's best football a couple of games ago. Last night was not one of his better games but it was an acceptable game. The real best part of the game was his realization that the pass was not working and the run was so he did the smart thing and handed the ball off. Although it will not likely make the high light reels his best play of the night was his scramble for the first down. I say that because with out that there is no comeback and win. That play put us back in the game against a very well prepared opponent, and may have been the smartest play he has made in a long time.

 

[skialta]

i agree the best football was played against indy. but, then again...i truly believe that was the best game played in the regular season by a quarterback. 40 for 49 with 4 drops? 6 tds, zero turnovers? can't get better than that

 

[bermudasteel]

I'm not whinin'. I'm just telling you the way it's gonna be.

Ok, Cleo...

 

[steelerscotty]

Once again, which of these qbs do you want? A team going from one franchise qb to another is rare, probably once every 10 to 15 years. Montana to young, favre to Rodgers and manning to luck are exceptions not the rule. Ben is our qb till he can't or doesn't want to play anymore and I don't care if that means hanging on to him a season or two too long.

List of all Pittsburgh Steelers starting quarterbacks The number of games they started during the season is listed to the right:

Season Regular season Post season
2013 Ben Roethlisberger (16)
2012 Ben Roethlisberger (13) / Charlie Batch (2) / Byron Leftwich (1)
2011 Ben Roethlisberger (15) / Charlie Batch (1) Ben Roethlisberger (1)
2010 Ben Roethlisberger (12) / Charlie Batch (2) / Dennis Dixon (2) Ben Roethlisberger (3)
2009 Ben Roethlisberger (15) / Dennis Dixon (1)
2008 Ben Roethlisberger (16) Ben Roethlisberger (3)
2007 Ben Roethlisberger (15) / Charlie Batch (1) Ben Roethlisberger (1)
2006 Ben Roethlisberger (15) / Charlie Batch (1)
2005 Ben Roethlisberger (12) / Tommy Maddox (2) / Charlie Batch (2) Ben Roethlisberger (4)
2004 Ben Roethlisberger (13) / Tommy Maddox (3) Ben Roethlisberger (2)
2003 Tommy Maddox (16)
2002 Tommy Maddox (11) / Kordell Stewart (5) Tommy Maddox (2)
2001 Kordell Stewart (16) Kordell Stewart (2)
2000 Kordell Stewart (11) / Kent Graham (5)
1999 Kordell Stewart (12) / Mike Tomczak (4)
1998 Kordell Stewart (16)
1997 Kordell Stewart (16) Kordell Stewart (2)
1996 Mike Tomczak (15) / Jim Miller (1) Mike Tomczak (2)
1995 Neil O'Donnell (12) / Mike Tomczak (4) Neil O'Donnell (3)
1994 Neil O'Donnell (14) / Mike Tomczak (2) Neil O'Donnell (2)
1993 Neil O'Donnell (15) / Mike Tomczak (1) Neil O'Donnell (1)
1992 Neil O'Donnell (12) / Bubby Brister (4) Neil O'Donnell (1)
1991 Neil O'Donnell (8) / Bubby Brister (8) [23]
1990 Bubby Brister (16)
1989 Bubby Brister (14) / Todd Blackledge (2) Bubby Brister (2)
1988 Bubby Brister (13) / Todd Blackledge (3)
1987 Mark Malone (12) / Steve Bono (3)
1986 Mark Malone (14) / Bubby Brister (2)
1985 Mark Malone (8) / David Woodley (6) / Scott Campbell (2)
1984 Mark Malone (9) / David Woodley (7)
1983 Cliff Stoudt (15) / Terry Bradshaw (1) Cliff Stoudt (1)

 

[mightyguru]

Whoever made the 2nd half adjustments; thank you. You at least showed the Steelers not to be total ******* idiots.

 

[Idioteque]

Dumb and Dumber are 7-4 I think?

FWIW, Jim Caldwell and Bill Callahan coached in Super Bowls recently.

 

[Idioteque]

Its the talent thats helped to lose....those red zone issues and turnover last week that we saw ...that was lack of execution on the players. Players ****** up....dont put that on coaches...coaches dont plan to turn the ball over four times and go 0-4 in the red zone. Ben tonight almost ****** this one away with another red zone turnover. Half those sacks ???? ON the quarterbacks inability to adjust and get the ball out....this is pee wee league **** from a franchise QB.

THink about this....had it not been for last weeks turnover fest we would be 8-3 and tied for a second seed for the playoffs........1 game and yall wanna *****....incessantly *****. AFTER a win. Contrary to what yall might believe, nothing is easy in the NFL....winning aint easy....but we GOTTA get smarter play from our quarterback..and when hes off, we need to do what we did tonight and let the run game assert itself and let Ben COMPLIMENT the run game on his off nights...

We've had the same issues for years and years. Different players, different OCs, different philosophies.. same results

One game? With all due respect, I don't know which team you've been watching for 3+ years straight.

 

[steelcan58]

I suspect that we have seen Ben's best football a couple of games ago. Last night was not one of his better games but it was an acceptable game. The real best part of the game was his realization that the pass was not working and the run was so he did the smart thing and handed the ball off. Although it will not likely make the high light reels his best play of the night was his scramble for the first down. I say that because with out that there is no comeback and win. That play put us back in the game against a very well prepared opponent, and may have been the smartest play he has made in a long time.

If Ben was audibling to running plays as Gruden suggested, last nights game was almost as impressive as his 6 TD games. Steelers did a 180 the last quarter and a half and completely dominated. Doing things like just calling the right plays and leading your team in adverse situations is as important as throwing for a lot of yards when everthing is running like clockwork.

 

[CoolieMan]

for a team that is led by ******* idiots...they certainly found a way to change up the offense to take advantage of what the titans were doing and rally from an 11 point deficit....

look around the league...who is ******* perfect??? NOBODY!!!!!! The Steelers are sitting in a good spot and if they guys who are supposed to be ready after the bye are good to go, then anyone who thinks this team can not make a run for the title is just a ******* hater...or a ******* idiot....more than likely both.....

 

[Coryea]

Coolie, Ben is an idiot, we should let him go after the season, you know that's what's best for the team, franchise QB's grow on trees, I mean look at his stats, he sucks.

 

[CoolieMan]

you're right...Ben only hits wide open receivers not like the really good qbs who only throw to guys who are covered but are so perfect they complete the passes anyway

 

[wig]

I forgot Neil, because I'm still scarred over that super bowl...

Ex Steeler QB 9 (57.8%) for 21,690 yards, 120 TD, 68 INT (1 Superbowl loss.)

Ultimately, Neil choked big time in the big game, but I'm really impressed with his numbers. Right up until it mattered he was a VERY safe option at QB. Those two interceptions to Larry Brown were so painful though that I may never get over it. I know that wrong routes were run. I know things went badly. I know that had we just kept running Morris the game probably would have gone the Steeler's way. But DAMN was that painful.

 

[Wingman]

If Ben was audibling to running plays as Gruden suggested, last nights game was almost as impressive as his 6 TD games. Steelers did a 180 the last quarter and a half and completely dominated. Doing things like just calling the right plays and leading your team in adverse situations is as important as throwing for a lot of yards when everthing is running like clockwork.

I don't disagree with your take on the game, just with a previous comment about Ben's best foot ball being in front of him and taking place when he is 32 to 37 years old.

 

[madtacker]

Ben is the right QB for this team. Live with him and die with him. He doesn't get as much attention as he should ( when talking about the elite ), but he doesn't get as criticized as he should sometimes either.

This was to be a season where we need him to carry this team. Period! Outside those 3 games where he was in the freakin zone he has looked mediocre at times. The Steelers cannot afford that. Sorry but he has to be perfect for us to make the playoffs right now.

He is the veteran leader with the pedigree & the rings. He has a stud RB, damn good tight end, star receiver, & a improved offensive line. Including him that's 4 of eleven STAR players on offense.

They shouldn't be having games where they cant score. Like Jacksonville, Jets ( 13 freakin pts. ) etc. I know he has youth at the receiving core but he needs to elevate their play. That's what great players do.

Why yr after yr are we in a dog fight in every freakin game. Steelers dominate T.O.P, yardage, up & down the field and then at half time they are only winning 13 -7. With Arians & with Haley.

To his credit he has never really had a great line, but he has up until recent always had a great defense. That kept him in games in order to compliment his streaky play.

There was a time when you just new Ben was going to win the game somehow. He was the comeback king. Did it in the super bowl, but lately he has been very up and down. Has times and games where he looks crazy good. Then he has times where he is very inconsistent. That's just who he is. Love him or hate him. Now we don't have that great defense and more is expected of him. He is now the veteran leader of this team, and the biggest star.

He isn't never gonna be Brady, Manning, or Rodgers. He is Big Ben. He is going to take sacks when he shouldn't. He is going to always try and hit the big plays. He is Big Ben, and he has proven he is a winner.

I feel like the are close though. Ben has been having his best statistical years, and his healthiest years under Haley.

This team is closer than some give it credit. They have had some bad drafts, & injuries have set some players back but they have some great young talent on this team. The future looks bright.

Ben has a lot left and I don't think he is done yet. They may not be ready this year but it takes time to rebuild a team when you lose all the players they have.

 

[steelbush]

^^^^^ Very well said^^^^^

 

[bermudasteel]

for a team that is led by ******* idiots...they certainly found a way to change up the offense to take advantage of what the titans were doing and rally from an 11 point deficit....

look around the league...who is ******* perfect??? NOBODY!!!!!! The Steelers are sitting in a good spot and if they guys who are supposed to be ready after the bye are good to go, then anyone who thinks this team can not make a run for the title is just a ******* hater...or a ******* idiot....more than likely both.....

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CoolieMan again.

 

[bermudasteel]

Ben is the right QB for this team. Live with him and die with him. He doesn't get as much attention as he should ( when talking about the elite ), but he doesn't get as criticized as he should sometimes either.

This was to be a season where we need him to carry this team. Period! Outside those 3 games where he was in the freakin zone he has looked mediocre at times. The Steelers cannot afford that. Sorry but he has to be perfect for us to make the playoffs right now.

He is the veteran leader with the pedigree & the rings. He has a stud RB, damn good tight end, star receiver, & a improved offensive line. Including him that's 4 of eleven STAR players on offense.

They shouldn't be having games where they cant score. Like Jacksonville, Jets ( 13 freakin pts. ) etc. I know he has youth at the receiving core but he needs to elevate their play. That's what great players do.

Why yr after yr are we in a dog fight in every freakin game. Steelers dominate T.O.P, yardage, up & down the field and then at half time they are only winning 13 -7. With Arians & with Haley.

To his credit he has never really had a great line, but he has up until recent always had a great defense. That kept him in games in order to compliment his streaky play.

There was a time when you just new Ben was going to win the game somehow. He was the comeback king. Did it in the super bowl, but lately he has been very up and down. Has times and games where he looks crazy good. Then he has times where he is very inconsistent. That's just who he is. Love him or hate him. Now we don't have that great defense and more is expected of him. He is now the veteran leader of this team, and the biggest star.

He isn't never gonna be Brady, Manning, or Rodgers. He is Big Ben. He is going to take sacks when he shouldn't. He is going to always try and hit the big plays. He is Big Ben, and he has proven he is a winner.

I feel like the are close though. Ben has been having his best statistical years, and his healthiest years under Haley.

This team is closer than some give it credit. They have had some bad drafts, & injuries have set some players back but they have some great young talent on this team. The future looks bright.

Ben has a lot left and I don't think he is done yet. They may not be ready this year but it takes time to rebuild a team when you lose all the players they have.

Some people, 'round here, don't 'no' know betta

 

[papillon]

I dunno Slash. Here's how I look at it.

My oldest is a HS QB now. I tell him, if you make it to College, any level - even Division III - you're an elite QB. Yeah, even Division III. What's elite? Well, consider there's about 360Million people in the US give or take all of the illegal aliens. 52% are women, give or take, 48% men. That's about 173Million American men. Give or take there are 245 college football programs. With 3 QBs each, maybe four. If every one of those programs had 4 QBs, that's less than 1,000 QBs playing in college. 1,000 QBs out of 173 Million men. If you play college football, regardless of position, you're elite.

Here we are in the NFL. The Steelers are one of 32 teams, 32 NFL teams all with extra-elite talent. And that team is a mere half game out of first in the AFC North. With a 7-4 record. With a HC with a career winning record and a Super Bowl ring. With an OC with a solid (by all counts) career. And people want to call them dumb and dumber.

I've seen teams with Romeo Crennel as HC, or Steve Spurrier as HC. I'm really ******* glad I'm not a fan of those teams. No...if 8-8 a couple seasons in a row is as bad as it gets as a Steelrers fan, and we cry this much, then I'll say we're ******* spoiled.

I'll take it. As much as it pains the plumbers and accountants and lawyers on this board, these guys are elite in their craft. Like it or not.

I don't always agree, the team gives me heartburn, and I often say "WTF!?" after plays and play Monday Morning QB. But really...really? We're pretty ******* fortunate fans.

Be careful introducing logic and perspective to any discussion, it's not always condoned.

Papillon

 

[blitzburghv5]

We've had the same issues for years and years. Different players, different OCs, different philosophies.. same results

One game? With all due respect, I don't know which team you've been watching for 3+ years straight.

Then that suggests the one COMMON DENOMINATOR, is Ben ****** Roethlisberger. His struggles w short fields are well documented being that his high completion percentages rely heavily on receivers getting separation at greater spaces than what other QBs require. This is evident in his frequency of pump fakes (sometimes two or three reloads). Im not bitin on the guy just pointin out weaknesses. Accuracy has never been a strong attribute for our quarterback.

 

[Coryea]

The big 3rd down throw to Bryant on the final drive was put only where it had to be or it wouldve been knocked away. The td to brown was thrown perfectly with double coverage. I'm assuming you watch other games, but Brady and Manning hit a ton of wr that are wide open too, all their throws aren't to guys that are well covered everytime.

 

[Vader]

If Brady doesn't miss a wide open Wes Welker in the SB they go 19-0 and Brady is 4-1 in SBs instead of 3-2. Brady hits a ton of wide open WRs and RBs. I'm amazed at how many of his passes are not even covered.

Seriously, anybody that thinks Ben only hits wide open WRs has an agenda. Ben hits Holmes who has 3 guys around him in the SB. As Coryea mentioned, Ben makes a perfect TD throw to Brown who is double covered.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Take away what ever benefits of the cheating tommy boy has had, then see if he merits high praise. I know that is an impossible thing to do, but his legacy is tainted and should be acknowledged along with his praise / comparison, of others. In Ben's younger career, he had a decent OL, his numbers were amazing. Give him a decent OL and he would be VERY more convincing.


Salute the nation

 

[Wingman]

Ben does not have Marino like accuracy or his incredible quick release. With that being said he has had games where his still of play was altered to the point of seeming like the qb he could be instead of just the one he is which is not bad at all. Think back to his two 500 plus yard games with 6 touchdowns in each one. His passes were quick and accurate and timing was fantastic. Look at some of his other games and we are back to football from his high school days where he looks tremendously like his old self.

It might be that Ben is buying into the game plans and audibles that his coaches have been calling. Look at the adjustments made and the way they were implemented. The steelers played a team with a bad record but were able to take over the game in the fourth quarter. Ben did not get desperate and Bomb away on what appeared to be a night where he was a bit off on some throws. This could be wind and or cold related. Adjustments were made and he executed them well. This past game was a great example of good qb play by protecting the ball and taking what was available.

 

[Steel Truckin]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CoolieMan again.

LOL! This team is going to make a run for the title. riiiiight