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San Bernandino, CA - Shootings

Elfiero said:
We don't know the motive yet. Though It does seem like this guy had some bad ideas recently pumped into his melon.

Remember Dylan Roof was an anti-black white Christian terrorist who was NEVER called as such by fox news.

You know because they didn't want to jump to conclusions......
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I wouldn't know, I don't watch Fox News all that much. If you read his manifesto, you'll see he's a white supremacist who never mentions being motivated by Christian beliefs, never mentions religion at all in fact (outside of Jews, who he doesn't seem to have virulent dislike for). So while he may have been raised Christian or called himself a Christian, I don't think it's accurate to call him a "Christian terrorist" in the same way we would call someone an "Islamic terrorist".

Roof is a white supremacist terrorist, I don't think many people would dispute that. He's certainly not affiliated with some organized, well-funded, international white supremacy movement though, that seems pretty clear.
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Just watch. Bomma will call for more gun control but not more Muslim control. He will never mention the words Muslim, Islamic extremism or radicalism, and terrorism in connection with this incident.
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Which reminds me......

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oneforthebus said:
I wouldn't know, I don't watch Fox News all that much. If you read his manifesto, you'll see he's a white supremacist who never mentions being motivated by Christian beliefs, never mentions religion at all in fact (outside of Jews, who he doesn't seem to have virulent dislike for). So while he may have been raised Christian or called himself a Christian, I don't think it's accurate to call him a "Christian terrorist" in the same way we would call someone an "Islamic terrorist".

Roof is a white supremacist terrorist, I don't think many people would dispute that. He's certainly not affiliated with some organized, well-funded, international white supremacy movement though, that seems pretty clear.
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unless someone is Muzzie, Jewish, Hindu or Taoist, then they are, by default, Christian. no other alternative.
 
bermudasteel said:
You do realize, that ANY "planned crime" will now be classified w/ this definition, right???
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Not if it's perpetrated by blacks or Muslims. Ten shootings a week in Chicago could be classified that way.
 
oneforthebus said:
I wouldn't know, I don't watch Fox News all that much. If you read his manifesto, you'll see he's a white supremacist who never mentions being motivated by Christian beliefs, never mentions religion at all in fact (outside of Jews, who he doesn't seem to have virulent dislike for). So while he may have been raised Christian or called himself a Christian, I don't think it's accurate to call him a "Christian terrorist" in the same way we would call someone an "Islamic terrorist".

Roof is a white supremacist terrorist, I don't think many people would dispute that. He's certainly not affiliated with some organized, well-funded, international white supremacy movement though, that seems pretty clear.
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Because there aren't any Christian terrorist training camps or a well-financed worldwide organization.
 
To the Muslims over here the USA needs to take a stand and say if you go back to your native land....its a one way ticket and your not welcome back here. Buh-bye
 
Ron Burgundy said:
Because there aren't any Christian terrorist training camps or a well-financed worldwide organization.
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And few if any Christian clerics who openly support violence against innocent people to advance their ideals.
 
I want to know what his disability was, mental illness?

I'm thinking maybe this guy was a lone wolf with no known ties to any groups. So if that's the case, and he's a US citizen, this would be domestic terrorism.
 
Ironcitysteelers said:
Just said dude was radicalized.
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I wish they would stop with the 'extremist', 'radicalized' media-speak. The dude was being muslim. Period. Its what they do. Every muslim country in the world is a daily trainwreck of this behavior.

In fact, to call this behavior anything other than 'muslim' offends muzloids. "These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.” Turkey PM, Recep Tayyip Erdogan - 8/24/07 If we have learned nothing else from our furry little muzloid friends, its that we don't want to offend them.

"SILENCE!!"
 
So he was on the phone with people who were already on the FBI watch list. ...

The guy obviously planned this out...

His neighbors knew something was wrong but didn't say anything because they didn't want to be labeled racist...

This is pretty cut and dry the guy acted on domestic terrorism and has an Islamic background.

WHEN WILL OBAMA COMDEMN THIS? And call it what it was Islamic attack and it came from WITHIN the USA.

Enough of this passive bullshit. WAKE UP
 
Troglodyte said:
Well, excuse me! Since you have so much sense, maybe you can explain why the attack had a personal aspect to it? If he was given orders from a group, why a relatively small target of people?
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It was a Christmas party. Muslims hate Christians. He hated his co-workers. He and his wife were making and selling bombs to other Muslims. He was in contact with terrorists on the FBI watchlist. To say that this was not Islamic terrorism from within the U.S. is just naive. I can throw out a whole string of other adjectives too...
 
Here we go...



CNN Sources: California Gunman Was Radicalized, Contacted Terror Suspects

San Bernardino gunman Syed Rizwan Farook had become increasingly radicalized, CNN reports, and had been in touch by phone and via social media with more than one international terrorism subject under investigation by the FBI.

A search of their home turned up more pipe bombs and explosives attached to remote controlled cars

​http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/US-California-Shootings/2015/12/03/id/704356/
 
Troglodyte said:
Well, excuse me! Since you have so much sense, maybe you can explain why the attack had a personal aspect to it? If he was given orders from a group, why a relatively small target of people?
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Are you really that naive or just plain stupid ? What is relatively small when talking about mass murder of innocent people?
 
But....the JV team is contained. Yeah right, there here.
 
I love me some Islam...mmm..it is so sexy. This Allah cat is the **** man. And moohamed is the stars and the moon baby! Let's cut some ******* heads off and bang some goats!...whoohoo
 
IndySteel said:
To say that this was not Islamic terrorism from within the U.S. is just naive.
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Who's saying that?

For a group to plan this and for the ammo they had, it wasn't very effective.
 
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