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I have an idea....definitely a perfect hole plugger for 2 years or so, until we find better...and can win the division and even win a playoff game or 3....
Hmmmm?.
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I have an idea....definitely a perfect hole plugger for 2 years or so, until we find better...and can win the division and even win a playoff game or 3....
Hmmmm?.
Dont need a ceiling with Wilson...just 2-3 more good years, which he is extremely capable off...
But like I said..it will be Kenny and probably Mason or Tannehill...
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I like Fields, but even I think a 1st is way too steep.
A 2nd? Probably worth it.
A 3rd? Absolutely worth it.
Steelers are usually average to ok on their decisions. I expect one of the dumber teams to give up more than the Steelers are willing to give up. If they were interested in the first place....
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Nix or Penix in the 2nd would be great!
I just want to see the position addressed and properly challenged. Because we ain't doing anything until we get a serviceable QB.
I definitely would be interested in Penix if he was there in the second.
I dunno on Nix. I wasn't enamored with his senior bowl...
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I haven't read/seen anything lately on Nix. Someone made the 'J.Herbert' comp earlier in the year and that got me intrigued lol.
I actually like Penix best, despite his awful delivery. Hoping his injury concerns drops him to the second.
That is not cooling my opinion of Nix...
Hope he falls to 3rd and we take him...
Especially if we are rolling with Kenny this season...which has yet to be seen or heard officially.
I have a question. How can you spend all that time typing and seriously say a worse offensive scheme. Really. A worse scheme. There were literally memes about the Steelers OC. One player said why don't we take knees. And the first coach fired mid season in anyone's recent memory. To which with a new OC KP had a best game of the season outing before being hurt the next game.
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But if it is the team around him and coaching couldn't that argument be made for other QB's as well? The track record of OSU QB's also comes into the discussion. Only one has done well in reality.
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Yes, sir.
Absolutely.
No argument here.
Could Arthur Smith turn Kenny into the next coming......? He could.
Was Kenny a late bloomer in college and could he be a late bloomer in the NFL......? He could
Both Fields and Pickett were in garbage offenses the last two years.
But strictly using the eye test, Fields seems to have the higher ceiling, better athleticism, more to mold.
I just like the buy low opportunity on Fields since our roster is only 1 QB at this point.
Even if we draft at QB, still need another anyway.
And again, no way should we trade a 1st for Fields ( and hopefully Tomlin can't force this, and Khan and Weidle and/or The Deuce shut that **** down if he tried).
But a 2nd? It's intriguing.
A 3rd? In a heartbeat. No brainer.
I just fear the Bears will try to fleece us back for Claypool.
That high powered QB juggernaut, The Bears.
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Sell me on Fields because here's what I see.
3 years with a 10-28 record when starting.
Has never thrown for more than 20 TDs in a season.
TD:INT ratio isn't great
Arguably regressed from year 2 to year 3. TD total was inflated with 2 four TD games, only 8 TDs in his other 11 starts.
Low completion percentage.
Major decline in rushing statistics.
Fields absolutely has more physical tools than Pickett. I won't deny that. However, he's been pretty bad for three years and you are hoping he gets better to maximize his potential. As it stands now, we are hoping Kenny gets better. I think a significant segment of the fanbase knows what Pickett is about and he's unlikely to be a franchise or even above average QB based on what we've seen. What makes Fields any different?
3 years with a 10-28 record when starting.
Has never thrown for more than 20 TDs in a season.
TD:INT ratio isn't great
Arguably regressed from year 2 to year 3. TD total was inflated with 2 four TD games, only 8 TDs in his other 11 starts.
Low completion percentage.
Major decline in rushing statistics.
Fields absolutely has more physical tools than Pickett. I won't deny that. However, he's been pretty bad for three years and you are hoping he gets better to maximize his potential. As it stands now, we are hoping Kenny gets better. I think a significant segment of the fanbase knows what Pickett is about and he's unlikely to be a franchise or even above average QB based on what we've seen. What makes Fields any different?
Other problem with Fields. You are going to have to guarentee him 23 million in his option year by end of May or he will be a FA in 2025. And no way you are giving up a 2nd round or for God sakes not a 1st without picking up the option.
Yep just a high risk. If you are going to eat up salary cap I think you have to be getting a more stable option.
A high risk option that limits your free agency better be successful. With a HC that has a little more pressure on him than in the past to have better end year results not sure that is the best path to travel.
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They had a decent question on The Fan...which scenario (to the best of my memory) would you take?
1. Mason Rudolph back at 2 years, $12 million
2. Ryan Tannehill 1 year, $7 million
3. Russell Wilson 1 year, league minimum (since Denver is paying him)
4. Justin Fields for a 2nd and 5th
5. Bo Nix at 1.20
6. Michael Penix at 1.20
7. Kirk Cousins 2 years, $90 million
1. Mason Rudolph back at 2 years, $12 million
2. Ryan Tannehill 1 year, $7 million
3. Russell Wilson 1 year, league minimum (since Denver is paying him)
4. Justin Fields for a 2nd and 5th
5. Bo Nix at 1.20
6. Michael Penix at 1.20
7. Kirk Cousins 2 years, $90 million
Who did you like? I prefer Penix in 2. So I would go Tannehill. Cousins is tempting but man pricey...
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Cousins. I don't see any of the other options moving the needle for this team.
Look Fields has a chance to rebound, but a fourth year first rounder that has poor accuracy numbers shouldnt have a mid round return.
He should get a conditional low round pick and they absolutely need to get out of that guaranteed fifth year or its utterly toxic.
Basically fields is the kind of guy you take a chance on if he is free now.. you just cant spend assets on and commit to a fourth year refurb qb project when you have a third year qb on the roster..
Its just not the way the current rookie salary structure allows..
The reality is they cant afford to spend any premium picks on QB right this second. They have to decide what to do with Pickett, they need an established option in case he fails and they need to soend all their premium picks on need positions this season because if Pickett fails, they have to dip into the top end qb pool next year
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One could argue that Fields didn't have many weapons to rely on. I mean, Chicago was so desperate that they gave up essentially, a first round draft pick for claypuff. Justin Fields was also the Bears leading rusher this past season, which is frigg'n sad.
With how this team approaches everything just probably not a realistic want. Definitely would be an approach I would take on. As they already showed the ability to free up cap space. So they could be competitive if they were aggressive enough. I also think they don't want to shelf Kenny yet. With Cousins you aren't spending that amount and having an open QB competition. Now I think our GM and assistant GM is ballsy enough to pull it off. But would Tomlin and Rooney sign off? Not so sure...
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I’d rather swap picks than lose one. Our 2nd for Fields and their 4th (or whatever).
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