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Scott Walker.

You might even say that getting 100% of Romney voters gets you beat....

Bush can get the Latin vote that did n vote for Romney. He can also swing Florida. Two keys to 2016.
 
I still have a feeling Hillary is gonna be out and Warren will run. Warren is a lying sack but the main stream media will make her out to be better than Hillary or Odumma.
 
I hope Clinton takes the gloves off and bashes Obama after he tries to push Biden.

And I hope Walker takes the gloves off and doesn't give a **** about upsetting the Dems and calls them in their bullshit. Romney had Obama.::: then he got all nice and polished and lost his balls.
 
I hope Clinton takes the gloves off and bashes Obama after he tries to push Biden.

And I hope Walker takes the gloves off and doesn't give a **** about upsetting the Dems and calls them in their bullshit. Romney had Obama.::: then he got all nice and polished and lost his balls.

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In a recent speech, Democrat Congressman Keith Ellison said "why do people even have to register to vote?" Yes, it does seem kind of unfair to limit voter turnout to a maximum of 100%

Hillary Clinton spoke to a Silicon Valley women's conference Tuesday and announced that it's time for America's working women to shatter the glass ceiling once and for all. She must love the sound of it. Hillary is the reason why all the White House china looks like it's been glued back together.

OK...breaks over, get back to work.
 
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I am a conservative, and I will NOT vote for Jeb under ANY circumstances, and you can throw Chris Christie into that category too.

Even if his opponent is Hillary Clinton?
 
Even if his opponent is Hillary Clinton?

I can't think of any circumstance that I would vote for Christie.

I also cannot think of any circumstance I would vote for Jeb either, although, I admit not knowing enough about him to make that an emphatic statement the way I can for Christie.

The GOP needs to learn to run the right candidates. It is the GOP establishment that has given us the last couple of candidates who were losers from the get-go. At least, for 2008, it didn't matter who they ran. The 2012 election was ripe and the GOP failed its electorate. I predict they will do so in 2016, as well.
 
Even if his opponent is Hillary Clinton?

YES - If they want my vote, give me someone to vote FOR. I DO NOT VOTE for the lesser pile of dog ****.
 
YES - If they want my vote, give me someone to vote FOR. I DO NOT VOTE for the lesser pile of dog ****.

Then by default you are voting for the biggest pile of dog ****. "Those who choose not to decide still have made a choice" words of wisdom from Rush.(the group not the blowhard)
 
YES - If they want my vote, give me someone to vote FOR. I DO NOT VOTE for the lesser pile of dog ****.

Some DS stinks worse than others. Life is often a choice of the lesser of two evils. Even if you don't like say Christie or Bush, they are better than Clinton...and there's a lot in other races to choose for. Perhaps this is why Obama won twice. His base whether they liked Hillary Clinton or someone else voted for him. Meanwhile Republican's not happy with McCain or Romney stayed home.
 
When the Libtard MSM says "You Republicans can't run so-and-so, he/she will never win", that's a pretty good indication to me that they CAN win.
How'd those last two moderates work out?
The other Rush asked today why the establishment GOP equates Conservatism with Barry Goldwater and a landslide loss instead of with Reagan and two landslide wins? It's a fair question. Of course the establishment didn't like Reagan either.
 
I can't think of any circumstance that I would vote for Christie.

I also cannot think of any circumstance I would vote for Jeb either, although, I admit not knowing enough about him to make that an emphatic statement the way I can for Christie.

The GOP needs to learn to run the right candidates. It is the GOP establishment that has given us the last couple of candidates who were losers from the get-go. At least, for 2008, it didn't matter who they ran. The 2012 election was ripe and the GOP failed its electorate. I predict they will do so in 2016, as well.

This..........

YES - If they want my vote, give me someone to vote FOR. I DO NOT VOTE for the lesser pile of dog ****.

.....and this.

Then by default you are voting for the biggest pile of dog ****. "Those who choose not to decide still have made a choice" words of wisdom from Rush.(the group not the blowhard)

So be it....if you or anyone else wants to assign that to me I'll bear it. I'm not a liberal or a pseudo con.......so I won't vote for one. Why elect someone wears a cloak of conservatism and casts it off as soon as they're elected to reveal a shiny new semi liberal suit? That's been done by me....tired of it, won't play anymore.

Some DS stinks worse than others. Life is often a choice of the lesser of two evils. Even if you don't like say Christie or Bush, they are better than Clinton...and there's a lot in other races to choose for. Perhaps this is why Obama won twice. His base whether they liked Hillary Clinton or someone else voted for him. Meanwhile Republican's not happy with McCain or Romney stayed home.

Little things in life often can come down to the LOTE decision making process.....but this country is absolutely done unless we turn it around. I won't be a part of the bunch that history later points to as helping the decay. Yeah, I know....that's exactly what I am doing, right? Not in my opinion.....I have decided I have to take a stand against the republican "machine" that keeps trying to jam limp dishrags down my gullet. **** 'em. They won't see another dime or vote from this little black duck.
 
I am sick of moderates being trashed by the far right. Fiscally I am as conservative as they come but I hate the social agenda of the far right. Why is it wrong to have a strong conservative fiscal view and a keep your nose the **** out of my social life and personal choices view. I don't want Paul because I want a strong foreign policy person. Someone with some guts but also brains to go with them. I thought GWB jumped the gun going into Iraq but at least he had conviction to do what he thought was right not what was popular. I want some one to come in and proudly and loudly say what they believe, not a I am trying to make everyone like me moderate but a strong **** both extreme sides of the party person who truly represents the majority of us and does not pander his or her opinion to what the power brokers say. A strong personality with moderate social views can win we just have to find one. Charisma seems in short supply in the republican ranks and has been since Ron.
 
See I am torn on Scott Walker. Being a Wisconsin resident I don't want him to become President. Why? Because I fear another liberal will come in here and ruin all the things he has fixed and there are a few things he is starting to push thru that I don't think will go unless he stays. Like drug test for welfare and make credit union start paying taxes. People complain about him giving money back and lowering taxes and now there's a deficit. All we'd need to do is tax credit unions and the state would have a billion dollar surplus immediately. So I guess I am being selfish and don't want him to leave to be the President because he hasn't quite fixed our state yet.
 
I am sick of moderates being trashed by the far right. Fiscally I am as conservative as they come but I hate the social agenda of the far right. Why is it wrong to have a strong conservative fiscal view and a keep your nose the **** out of my social life and personal choices view. I don't want Paul because I want a strong foreign policy person. Someone with some guts but also brains to go with them. I thought GWB jumped the gun going into Iraq but at least he had conviction to do what he thought was right not what was popular. I want some one to come in and proudly and loudly say what they believe, not a I am trying to make everyone like me moderate but a strong **** both extreme sides of the party person who truly represents the majority of us and does not pander his or her opinion to what the power brokers say. A strong personality with moderate social views can win we just have to find one. Charisma seems in short supply in the republican ranks and has been since Ron.

Why do moderates trash and lie to conservatives? Boehner was in there 5 minutes before he turned his back on conservatives. The chasm isn't between the social far right and the social moderate. It's between people like Rand Paul and Jeb Bush. Bush loves mo government. He's a tax and spend republican. Paul wants to audit the fed, give power back to the states and get rid of the ACA. You think Paul is trying to get in your social life? Bush wants in there more than Paul does. But somehow Paul is the tea partier crazy nut job. None of this is about social conservatives, it's about moderate conservatives wanting just as much government as the dems.
 
Then by default you are voting for the biggest pile of dog ****. "Those who choose not to decide still have made a choice" words of wisdom from Rush.(the group not the blowhard)

See this is where your Holier than thou attitude gets in the way. Just because I will not support your way of thinking, you want to make your self feel better, by believing that I am supporting the opinion you do not agree with. It is obvious that you can not understand that there could be more than 2 points of view.
 
Some DS stinks worse than others. Life is often a choice of the lesser of two evils. Even if you don't like say Christie or Bush, they are better than Clinton...and there's a lot in other races to choose for. Perhaps this is why Obama won twice. His base whether they liked Hillary Clinton or someone else voted for him. Meanwhile Republican's not happy with McCain or Romney stayed home.

So let me get this straight, you are giving me PERMISSION to choose whomever I want in other races, as long as I do what YOU want in the Presidential election?
 
I am sick of moderates being trashed by the far right. Fiscally I am as conservative as they come but I hate the social agenda of the far right. Why is it wrong to have a strong conservative fiscal view and a keep your nose the **** out of my social life and personal choices view. I don't want Paul because I want a strong foreign policy person. Someone with some guts but also brains to go with them. I thought GWB jumped the gun going into Iraq but at least he had conviction to do what he thought was right not what was popular. I want some one to come in and proudly and loudly say what they believe, not a I am trying to make everyone like me moderate but a strong **** both extreme sides of the party person who truly represents the majority of us and does not pander his or her opinion to what the power brokers say. A strong personality with moderate social views can win we just have to find one. Charisma seems in short supply in the republican ranks and has been since Ron.

Be careful there, your Libertarian leanings are starting to show.
 
Be careful there, your Libertarian leanings are starting to show.
No need to be careful. If the Libertarians were a viable party now with a chance of winning I would consider voting that way. My biggest faults with them is being too isolationist and I refuse to cast a vote that helps the Democrats..
 
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No need to be careful. If the Libertarians were a viable party now with a chance of winning I would consider voting that way. My biggest faults with them is being too isolationist and I refuse to cast a vote that helps the Democrats..

Then get out the word. Demand that the Libertarian candidates be included in Tue debate and cast a vote for a good guy rather than the lesser of two evils.

P.S.

Noninterventionist does not mean isolationist.
 
Jindal and Christie have eliminated themselves since they lead their states into big financial messes. Jury is still out whether Walker
has Wisconsin joining them.

John Kasich has run his key state pretty well, but nobody seems interested in him.
 
Jindal and Christie have eliminated themselves since they lead their states into big financial messes. Jury is still out whether Walker
has Wisconsin joining them.

John Kasich has run his key state pretty well, but nobody seems interested in him.
how well did Bomma govern Illinois?
 
No need to be careful. If the Libertarians were a viable party now with a chance of winning I would consider voting that way.

I wish I had a dollar for every time I have heard someone say this.If those same people were willing to stand up for what they believe, real change could finally START to happen.
 
Rather than trying to peel off people from the GOP, I'd rather see the Libertarian crown infiltrate and take over. Easier to make that change, IMO.
 
Obama has never been governor of Illinois. You need to compare apples to apples.

If you had a dollar for every time you heard that, you might even have a $20 by now. The problem with overall Libertarian views is that half the viewpoints don't have a firm grasp on reality.
 
Obama has never been ... anything. You need to compare socialists to socialists.

If you had a dollar for every time you heard that, you might even have a $20 by now. The problem with overall Bomma nut-hugger views is that half the viewpoints don't have a firm grasp on reality.

I see what you did there
 
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