SCOTUS Initial Draft Opinion Leaked on Roe v. Wade

[Turd Ferguson]

Don’t forget on the same topic of reproductive rights that men have no choice but to pay that child support. Women get the AAA options (abortion, adoption, abandonment) Men get 18 to 24 years of wage slavery.

I work with a guy who ended up disowning his daughter over that law. She was taking her own dad back to court for constant support adjustments until the day she turned 24. She would claim living with the ex-wife and going to college while staying with her boyfriend and doing the party thing.

 

[NCSteelerfan]

Don’t forget on the same topic of reproductive rights that men have no choice but to pay that child support. Women get the AAA options (abortion, adoption, abandonment) Men get 18 to 24 years of wage slavery.

Didn't know women could just abandon their kids without consequence.

I have said it before and I will say it again - it takes two to make a baby. Don't want that possibility of having to be financially responsible then keep your dick in your pants. Women have been told for years to keep their legs closed for this stuff - guys can do the same.

There - equal responsibility.

 

[NCSteelerfan]

Just love the fact that this was "leaked". I wonder how hard it will get looked into to find out how this got out to Politico to report.

The nashing of teeth and screeching is coming from the far left who seem to think this will plunge us into the Handmaids tale territory. I really don't understand the comparison, but whatever. The fact is that this will just put this back in the states hands, and if they don't like what their state is doing they can get involved locally to try and change policies - you know - that democracy they keep hollering about.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

SO ******* sick of this topic. Stop getting knocked up and use birth control. Aside from rare circumstances problem solved and the law is irrelevant. this is aimed at both genders.

 

[NCSteelerfan]

SO ******* sick of this topic. Stop getting knocked up and use birth control. Aside from rare circumstances problem solved and the law is irrelevant.

Birth control fails a lot more than people think it does. The pill, as promoted as it is, does lots of damage to women's bodies. That being said, there are other methods that are safer.

Now Steeltime can correct me on this, because I don't chase ambulances for a living - it's not a "law" it's a ruling/precedent. Hence why the dems are now scrambling to try and push through their "law" about women's healthcare, or some **** like that - that would make roe v wade, and that other horse **** one that I can't remember the name of, an actual fed law protecting rights to abortion. Seems extra shady to me.

 

[diver]

I'm not understanding the upcoming freakout. Doesn't this just become a state issue? A ton of states will quickly pass laws to allow and those that don't need the folks in those states who want to change to get motivated to vote in folks to create legislation. Isn't that the way it's supposed to work...or is that why the freakout????

There could be a number of reasons, but one reason it is not such a hot button issue in Great Britain is that it was voted in, not made law by fiat.

 

[SteelerInLebanon]

Birth control fails a lot more than people think it does. The pill, as promoted as it is, does lots of damage to women's bodies. That being said, there are other methods that are safer.

Now Steeltime can correct me on this, because I don't chase ambulances for a living - it's not a "law" it's a ruling/precedent. Hence why the dems are now scrambling to try and push through their "law" about women's healthcare, or some **** like that - that would make roe v wade, and that other horse **** one that I can't remember the name of, an actual fed law protecting rights to abortion. Seems extra shady to me.

I should have said lack of relevant law is irrelevant. Congress could at anytime try to pass legislation to address this rather than kicking the can to SCOTUS to legislate from the bench or to undo previous bench legislation as we have in Roe. Regardless of personal feelings on abortion it isn't directly covered in the Constitution, without major contortions of the 14th amendment I don't see this as being under federal purview and should be left to the people and the States to decide as it is not an enumerated power. I only see 2 possible Constitutional outcomes, send it back to the States or pass an Amendment to address it at the national level and we know that would be almost outright war to try to do.

Education technology and better parenting could eliminate a lot the issue. We could work together and fix the underlying issues rather than hating each other over the symptom of the real problem rather than this divisive BS when we should all agree on wanting to reduce unwanted pregnancies.

 

[IndySteel]

REEEEEEEEE!!!!!

All this would do is kick it down to the State level for them to decide If it’s legal or not. Crazy ******* will still be able to go to evil blue states to have their babies skulls crushed with forceps and their tiny little brains vacuumed out.

 

[NCSteelerfan]

I should have said lack of relevant law is irrelevant. Congress could at anytime try to pass legislation to address this rather than kicking the can to SCOTUS to legislate from the bench or to undo previous bench legislation as we have in Roe. Regardless of personal feelings on abortion it isn't directly covered in the Constitution, without major contortions of the 14th amendment I don't see this as being under federal purview and should be left to the people and the States to decide as it is not an enumerated power. I only see 2 possible Constitutional outcomes, send it back to the States or pass an Amendment to address it at the national level and we know that would be almost outright war to try to do.

Education technology and better parenting could eliminate a lot the issue. We could work together and fix the underlying issues rather than hating each other over the symptom of the real problem rather than this divisive BS when we should all agree on wanting to reduce unwanted pregnancies.

I agree with this whole heartedly, especially the last couple of sentences.

I think the leak is to drive the bill through that covers women's healthcare putting abortion as covered by federal law. Seems several Senators and Congress people were all of a sudden pushing this to the fore front again.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

So…let’s say this info was determined to be leaked by a justice. What then?

 

[Ron Burgundy]

Don’t forget on the same topic of reproductive rights that men have no choice but to pay that child support. Women get the AAA options (abortion, adoption, abandonment) Men get 18 to 24 years of wage slavery.

If the man is willing to pay for an abortion and the woman says no then he should be exempt from paying child support.

 

[deljzc]

It was an incredibly smart, articular, legal opinion. It struck every major point in a LEGAL argument why Roe should be overturned, which is what this is really about.

I'm not ashamed to say I am pro-choice. I'm not in favor of the line in the sand as currently written (i.e. viability) but that is a negotiated point I'll let to my legislators decide. I understand completely there are people whose opinion is abortion 100% should be illegal at the moment of conception. We can agree to disagree understanding the laws in our state probably won't make either of us perfectly happy.

What I don't agree with as a pro-choice advocate (to some degree) is how abortion is considered a "right" under the Constitution's 14th Amendment. That is as much a legal stretch as has ever existing in our Republic. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't establish a good precedent. And it is clearly legislation by the judiciary branch, which I am just 100% against.

Having a law that make abortions illegal is NOT unconstitutional. I might not agree with it. I might even consider electing "moderate" republicans that support some degree of legal abortion vs. absolute Republicans that want to ban the practice completely. Let the votes count the way forward in my opinion. Let the States decide and have the repercussions affect the outcome moving forward. That's the way our Republic is supposed to work.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

There could be a number of reasons, but one reason it is not such a hot button issue in Great Britain is that it was voted in, not made law by fiat.

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All this would do is kick it down to the State level for them to decide If it’s legal or not. Crazy ******* will still be able to go to evil blue states to have their babies skulls crushed with forceps and their tiny little brains vacuumed out.

Exactly. Every state can put it up for referendum.

 

[Superman]

you can kill babies in the womb, but not put Grandma asleep when she's in death throes.
gotta love the hypocrisy

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

If the man is willing to pay for an abortion and the woman says no then he should be exempt from paying child support.

What if the man identifies as a women, does he then Make the decision?

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Hey don’t keep that and miss work. Amazon, done with a smile

Amazon announces benefit to pay for US employees who travel for abortions, other treatments

Online retail giant Amazon.com took a firm stance Monday pushing against a prevailing Republican-led push to restrict access to abortion, telling its staff that it would pay up to $4,000 in travel expenses for non-life threatening medical treatments that include abortion. The move comes as a...

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[Lunar]

That being said, there are other methods that are safer.

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[NCSteelerfan]

More blow jobs

.......hand jobs (the old fashioned), and anal

 

[Tim Steelersfan]

.......hand jobs (the old fashioned), and anal

 

[DBS1970]

Didn't know women could just abandon their kids without consequence.

I have said it before and I will say it again - it takes two to make a baby. Don't want that possibility of having to be financially responsible then keep your dick in your pants. Women have been told for years to keep their legs closed for this stuff - guys can do the same.

There - equal responsibility.

Then you haven't been paying attention. Most states have a law that lets a mother drop a baby off up to 6-8 weeks old. As far as the "Keep it in your pants" thing when that is said about women we are told to stop trying to control womens bodies and that they have a right to have sex, sort of a double standard. But then responsibility and accountability are like Kryptonite to females.

 

[Djfan]

"my body, my choice"

except for vaccines

Nevermind the baby's body is not her body.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Dems need to be reminded this is directly their fault. Harry Reid nuked the filibuster for federal judges...that was the tipping point that lead to this day. They wanted to load the courts with lifeling Dem jurists and now.....BOOM!

 

[Djfan]

Source Of SCOTUS Leak Found To Be Swedish Supreme Court Janitor Hildur Clintonheim

WASHINGTON, D.C. - In an announcement leaked to the press, Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts stated the person responsible for leaking the draft of the court's Roe v. Wade decision was found to be Swedish Supreme Court Janitor Hildur Clintonheim.'Our elite team of court investigators did...

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[Tim Steelersfan]

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

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