So Wiliams scored on a route that would have gone to CAIII

[CoolieMan]

if true, this just needs to become a Williams route

https://www.steelernation.com/2024/11/10/steelers-mike-williams-never-washington

 

[Drink IRON City]

I don’t think CA3 would have come down with it, size issue.

Something to be said about size once in The red zone. Everything is so much more congested, tighter, narrowed down, making it way harder on those involved. Taller receivers seem to be more successful than the midgets.

Also the route wasn’t a practiced route for Williams, during the week leading up to game. Obviously, Mike knew the route from past experience and was successful.

I see M. Williams taking more and more snaps away from our secondary WR room and rightfully so.

A poster here, Steve is right, Williams wasn’t the problem in NY. He is putting his injury behind him as well.


Salute the nation

 

[Drink IRON City]

PS Thanks for posting the video Coolie


Salute the nation

 

[BLITZ]

just think how great this team will be when they trade for BA

 

[suncitysteel]

Shorter WRs will always have a problem hauling in an over-the-shoulder pass on the sidelines or in the end zone/corner; the covering DB may or may not be taller but he (the DB) becomes an extra impediment to the receiver's ability to track the ball. Pickens, Williams, and even Jefferson have the height to excel for those balls,. Give Austin, Roman (if he ever sees the field), Scotty, etc. the slants and speed/seam routes.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

Is Williams a free agent at the end of the year? If so he’s probably ultra motivated to prove he’s not a typical diva declining WR pushing 30 who couldn’t be trusted to run routes correctly- that was the narrative with the Jets.

This could work out really well for us this year, he’s a former 1st round pick and has the talent. Hopefully he’s got a bigger role next week, it would would be insane not for it to happen

Austin seems to be at his best on slant and deep routes in the middle of the field instead of rainbow Russ jump balls like the one Williams caught

 

[Lambert58]

If Williams can continue to prove his worth, it should open things up much more for Pickens, Austin and Freiermuth.

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

If Williams can continue to prove his worth, it should open things up much more for Pickens, Austin and Freiermuth.

It will be interesting to see if that happens and the ball distribution.

DK has been saying all year in Smiths offense WR2 is mainly a blocker with 5-6 targets max a game, and the offense is based around running, WR1, a few deep shots, and the tight ends.

With Russ I dont see a ton of TE usage and it seems like all WRs are getting distribution equal to or maybe more than the TEs.

Hopefully Williams gets enough balls to help us and to stay happy and engaged

 

[SteelerFan448]

It will be interesting to see if that happens and the ball distribution.

DK has been saying all year in Smiths offense WR2 is mainly a blocker with 5-6 targets max a game, and the offense is based around running, WR1, a few deep shots, and the tight ends.

With Russ I dont see a ton of TE usage and it seems like all WRs are getting distribution equal to or maybe more than the TEs.

Hopefully Williams gets enough balls to help us and to stay happy and engaged

It seems more of a product of poor wide receivers rather than intentional. In 2019, 2020, and 2021 when there was a legit 1-2 pairing at wide receiver, the top two produced pretty good (or at least comparable) numbers. The Steelers don't have a true WR2 so their numbers will follow. The stats are below.

This isn't much different than in 2014 when the Steelers had Markus Wheaton as WR2. Brown led the way followed by Miller and Bell. Wheaton only had 53 receptions, which was 13 fewer than Miller.

2019
AJ Brown 52 receptions (84 targets)
Corey Davis 43 receptions (69 targets)

2020
AJ Brown 70 receptions (106 targets)
Corey Davis 65 receptions (92 targets)

2021
Russell Gage 66 receptions (94 targets) in 14 games
Olamide Zaccheaus 31 receptions (53 targets)--who???
NOTE: Calvin Ridley had 31 receptions (52 targets) in 5 games

2022
Drake London 72 receptions (117 targets)
Olamide Zaccheaus 40 receptions (61 targets)--again, who???

2023
Drake London 69 receptions (110 targets)
Mack Hollins 18 receptions (30 targets) in 13 games--who?

 

[Avoid_Lloyd]

It seems more of a product of poor wide receivers rather than intentional. In 2019, 2020, and 2021 when there was a legit 1-2 pairing at wide receiver, the top two produced pretty good (or at least comparable) numbers. The Steelers don't have a true WR2 so their numbers will follow. The stats are below.

This isn't much different than in 2014 when the Steelers had Markus Wheaton as WR2. Brown led the way followed by Miller and Bell. Wheaton only had 53 receptions, which was 13 fewer than Miller.

2019
AJ Brown 52 receptions (84 targets)
Corey Davis 43 receptions (69 targets)

2020
AJ Brown 70 receptions (106 targets)
Corey Davis 65 receptions (92 targets)

2021
Russell Gage 66 receptions (94 targets) in 14 games
Olamide Zaccheaus 31 receptions (53 targets)--who???
NOTE: Calvin Ridley had 31 receptions (52 targets) in 5 games

2022
Drake London 72 receptions (117 targets)
Olamide Zaccheaus 40 receptions (61 targets)--again, who???

2023
Drake London 69 receptions (110 targets)
Mack Hollins 18 receptions (30 targets) in 13 games--who?

Good point. Not sure if Williams is a legit WR2or not

 

[stillwright]

Shorter WRs will always have a problem hauling in an over-the-shoulder pass on the sidelines or in the end zone/corner; the covering DB may or may not be taller but he (the DB) becomes an extra impediment to the receiver's ability to track the ball. Pickens, Williams, and even Jefferson have the height to excel for those balls,. Give Austin, Roman (if he ever sees the field), Scotty, etc. the slants and speed/seam routes.

Meh...you either have the hands that are great or you don't. AB was well under 6 ft. One inch taller than Austin. Dude caught everything.