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Steelers First Round Pick - Derrick Harmon

good solid pick! honestly hoping they get McCord if they go for a QB. should go after one of the backs available and still think OL needs work! Will be interesting to see how things play out!
 
good solid pick! honestly hoping they get McCord if they go for a QB. should go after one of the backs available and still think OL needs work! Will be interesting to see how things play out!
 
good solid pick! honestly hoping they get McCord if they go for a QB. should go after one of the backs available and still think OL needs work! Will be interesting to see how things play out!
What ones are the elites?
 
I guess things come full circle. Harmon was the guy I had been mocking consistently at 21 during all of my early mocks. This is a good pick.

I am curious to see which RB and QB they do draft. Those 2 are our next most needed and then you can go back to possibly double-dipping at DL with a late round pick. I mocked Harmons cohort on that Duck's line as he is a true NT. He may be there in the 5th or 6th. That would be a good double dip unless there is another NT to shut down the run in the middle.
 
Build through the trenches continues with the team of Khan and Weidl.

There's nothing wrong with that strategy, but the players selected still have to produce on the field.

Noone can say yet with any confidence the likes of Broderick Jones, Keanu Benton and Troy Fautanu will be consistently strong performers going forward.

This upcoming season will indicate a lot when it comes to them.

Harmon was great value where he was picked, but like with Fautanu, the health concerns should not be so quickly dismissed, as some players are just more prone to them than others.
 
I like the pick. It’s a good pick. If they were going to take a QB at 21 I would’ve been ok with either Dart or Sanders. At 21, neither would’ve been a reach. I prefer Milroe in the second. But the Steelers took the right guy with the right pick. As Philadelphia proved, the game is won in the trenches. Hopefully they can trade into the second round and get another solid value pick.
 
Steelers have several glaring holes and DL was definitely one of them. Still need a QB, RB, OT and NCB but Harmon in my opinion is a high floor guy and a plug and play guy. Heyward can’t play forever and the Steelers usually aren’t good about addressing upcoming needs might have turned a new leaf under Khan.
I was worried Sanders was going to be the pick. Personally I would have went Jaxson Dart but getting a guy like Harmon softens the hit a lot. Drafting Sanders would have screwed this team up for 4-5 more years.
 
Harmon was great value where he was picked, but like with Fautanu, the health concerns should not be so quickly dismissed, as some players are just more prone to them than others.
So......he hasn’t missed a game in the last 3 seasons. Steelers medical staff checked him out and said he was more than fine. Serious question......can you link me something that gives actual proof of all these injuries he is “ prone to”.
Or is this all just speculation?
 
What ones are the elites?


Unless we move up, the 3rd is where we will make that move RB / QB. There won’t be elite, but at RB there should be “good enough”.

Time will tell, my guess is they go QB and I hope they call rogers and tell him to piss up a HOT rope.


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Let’s be honest. Draft picks can only be truly evaluated three or four years later and the Steelers biggest problem hasn’t been addressed other than signing Mason Rudolph.

I find myself suddenly haunted by the 1983 Draft where, with the 21st pick, the Steelers passed on a QB named Dan Marino to draft a DL named Gabe Rivera. The fact that Rivera was paralyzed in a car accident months later doesn’t really matter. He could’ve been the best DL ever and the pick still would’ve been a mistake. Let’s hope the 2025 NFL Draft isn’t Deja Vu all over again.

The 1983 first round also had seven future HOFers.
 
So......he hasn’t missed a game in the last 3 seasons. Steelers medical staff checked him out and said he was more than fine. Serious question......can you link me something that gives actual proof of all these injuries he is “ prone to”.
Or is this all just speculation?


Great post Steelmann, thank you.

Sometimes the media can put a vision into one’s mind without any actual substance to back it up. I get caught occasionally because I wear my sleeves pretty short. This causes me to have to come back and eat heavily BBQ’d sauced crow.



Salute the nation
 
Let’s be honest. Draft picks can only be truly evaluated three or four years later and the Steelers biggest problem hasn’t been addressed other than signing Mason Rudolph.

I find myself suddenly haunted by the 1983 Draft where, with the 21st pick, the Steelers passed on a QB named Dan Marino to draft a DL named Gabe Rivera. The fact that Rivera was paralyzed in a car accident months later doesn’t really matter. He could’ve been the best DL ever and the pick still would’ve been a mistake. Let’s hope the 2025 NFL Draft isn’t Deja Vu all over again.

The 1983 first round also had seven future HOFers.



Who’s the Dan Marino in this scenario? Don’t say the Sanders kid because 32 teams have passed on him………………….

I’m not Taking nothing away from the Dan Marino, here’s the flip side of that

Many think that Marino would have instantly raised the bar for the Steelers, very possible. Also remember that the Steelers were in a tough / nose bleed / physical division, who’s to say he wouldn’t have gotten hurt / banged up. Our system wasn’t designed for the Marino as opposed to the Miami system being more compatible.

YES, I would have taken the Marino back then, but that was 42 years ago and no bearing on today’s game. Are you saying Sanders is the next Marino, I think not.

All this is speculation and just a flip side.

Moral to the post “Don’t lower our standards by dissing on a 1.21 draft pick before he even gets a chance to play”




Salute the nation
 
Great post Steelmann, thank you.

Sometimes the media can put a vision into one’s mind without any actual substance to back it up. I get caught occasionally because I wear my sleeves pretty short. This causes me to have to come back and eat heavily BBQ’d sauced crow.



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I ate heavily BBQ’d sauced ribs last night. And made enough for tonight. Mmmm Mmmm good.
With my big mouth I also eat crow sometimes.
I can’t stand all the unsubstantiated BS that is reported. And people lap it up.

Case in point when I read that quote below from a supposed assistant GM in the AFC on Sanders. I wasn’t into drafting him but that quote going unsigned is absolute BS. What type of puss makes a statement like that and doesn’t have the ball s to sign it? The day before the draft.

“The worst formal interview I’ve ever been in in my life. He’s so entitled. He takes unnecessary sacks. He never plays on time. He has horrible body language. He blames teammates, But the biggest thing is, he’s not that good.”
 
So......he hasn’t missed a game in the last 3 seasons. Steelers medical staff checked him out and said he was more than fine. Serious question......can you link me something that gives actual proof of all these injuries he is “ prone to”.
Or is this all just speculation?

He apparently played through a shoulder issue throughout his college career.

It could very well turn out to be nothing, but Fautanu did not miss many if any college games due to his knee issue and was also cleared by the Steelers doctors.

He ended up shredding one of his knees in a non-contact injury during practice. Though I believe it was the other knee from the one he previously had problems with, it's reasonable to assume both his knees are genetically similar.

Regarding Harmon, his health concerns are definitely not alarming enough to not draft him where he was drafted, as was the case with Fauantu, but also as with Fautanu, there might be "some" level of risk worth keeping an eye.
 
Let’s be honest. Draft picks can only be truly evaluated three or four years later and the Steelers biggest problem hasn’t been addressed other than signing Mason Rudolph.

I find myself suddenly haunted by the 1983 Draft where, with the 21st pick, the Steelers passed on a QB named Dan Marino to draft a DL named Gabe Rivera. The fact that Rivera was paralyzed in a car accident months later doesn’t really matter. He could’ve been the best DL ever and the pick still would’ve been a mistake. Let’s hope the 2025 NFL Draft isn’t Deja Vu all over again.

The 1983 first round also had seven future HOFers.
I'm less aggravated by the Marino non pick than the 1999 goat-f**k of taking Troy Edwards at 15 with Jevon Kearse sitting there.....

Just recalling it ruins my day.

Side note, I was at Bradshaw's last game... Against the Jets at Shea Stadium in NY in 1983....that is a good memory.... 😊
 
Who’s the Dan Marino in this scenario? Don’t say the Sanders kid because 32 teams have passed on him………………….

I’m not Taking nothing away from the Dan Marino, here’s the flip side of that

Many think that Marino would have instantly raised the bar for the Steelers, very possible. Also remember that the Steelers were in a tough / nose bleed / physical division, who’s to say he wouldn’t have gotten hurt / banged up. Our system wasn’t designed for the Marino as opposed to the Miami system being more compatible.

YES, I would have taken the Marino back then, but that was 42 years ago and no bearing on today’s game. Are you saying Sanders is the next Marino, I think not.

All this is speculation and just a flip side.

Moral to the post “Don’t lower our standards by dissing on a 1.21 draft pick before he even gets a chance to play”




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I remember all the coke and alcohol allegations from Marino’s college days back then. The media had a field day. Many thought it was fitting....going to Miami as one of the coke capitals. Not exactly the image the Rooney’s wanted to portray.
 
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