Steelers' George Pickens Seemingly Sends Strong But Simple Message To Pittsburgh's Front Office On Social Media

[insaniti]

Having two and paying two top dollar are completely different things. WR is quite a fungible position, even in this relatively week draft class you can find them in the first three rounds. You can also pick up 3rd contract guys like Adams on a yearly basis.

WR are so easy to get, that's why we had two really good ones last year right? We picked one up in round 3 last year and he got hurt and basically red shirt his rookie year.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

WR are so easy to get, that's why we had two really good ones last year right? We picked one up in round 3 last year and he got hurt and basically red shirt his rookie year.

I mean, you actually have to want them. There were other guys available in FA and the draft, they went another direction.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

Different QBs, different receiving corps, different OLs, Different OCs…the only continuity was Muth and Naj…and Naj is gone so yeah more blah, blah BS

Not a whole lotta 4 year continuity like you suggest

I was talking about the Bengals. Burrow, Chase, Higgins have been together for 4 seasons.

 

[insaniti]

I mean, you actually have to want them. There were other guys available in FA and the draft, they went another direction.

Who were the other options?

I was talking about the Bengals. Burrow, Chase, Higgins have been together for 4 seasons.

So they invest heavily on offense, we invest heavily on defense... They've won a playoff game now recently than us, even went to the super bowl. Or are we chopping that up to pure luck?

 

[WindyCitySteel]

I don’t see a single receiver in this draft I’d prefer over George, much less the 2nd-3rd round guys. A couple of the first rounders might get to his level in due time…but no guarantees there, draft is a crap shoot. George is a known commodity. I’d sure as heck take GP over Tet, Bond, Harris or Egbuka.

Plenty of teams pay two receivers top money

Bengals have Chase/Higgins
Eagles have Brown/Smith
Dolphins have Hill/Waddle
Commanders have Samuel/McLaurin
Bucs have Goodwin/Evans
Texans have Collins/Kirk

What all these teams have in common is they are playoff caliber teams, sure the Bengals narrowly missed due to the Burrow injury. Nobody wanted a piece of them had they made it. Dolphins also likely a fringe WC team had Tua not been injured.

Then there are the teams paying top QB money that have to go cheaper on receivers as the QB is expected to make everyone better. Teams like the Chiefs and Bills.

Since the Steelers won’t be paying franchise QB money any time soon may as well have some weapons.

Would much rather pay a second offensive threat than renew Minkah. If he was deployed properly maybe a different convo, but center fielders can be had much cheaper than Minkah. Cam will be coming off the books soon too. Gotta pay someone.

I hope we don’t repeat last year again, but I just don’t see this team of all teams spending top dollar on two WRs.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

Who were the other options?



So they invest heavily on offense, we invest heavily on defense... They've won a playoff game now recently than us, even went to the super bowl. Or are we chopping that up to pure luck?

First round, Brian Thomas Jr. was picked 3 picks after Fautanu.

In FA, Ridley, Marquise Brown, Tyler Boyd, Mooney, Chark, and Samuel all signed with new teams, the Steelers picked Miller and Jefferson.

If they really valued the position, they would have found a way to get one of those guys.

 

[insaniti]

So ignore the OL in the draft? They took a WR in the third round. A round you think we can find a replacement for GP. The draft will always be a crapshoot.

Tyler Boyd was talked about, and quickly dismissed. He didn't want to come here, and others didn't want him here. Samuel... Curtis Samuel? Hahaha

Ridley signed for a pretty good contract, and it was during the legal tampering. We don't know if we offered him anything or even had the chance. In fact, we don't know if any of those options wanted to come here, we're offered a contract, because they signed with other teams. Teams with better QB options.

No one is coming here without seriously over paying. And the Aiyuk trade that did then didn't happen, still would have cost them big time. And we'd still be looking at a similar situation, GP up for an extension.

They tried to address it, it didn't happen. They got it this year tho.

 

[Lloyd]

I routinely watch 24-year old NFL players who do not act the way Pickens does on a weekly basis.

You read my mind. And at 24 y/o, I was not as immature as GP.

 

[Lloyd]

Don’t forget all the hostage situations, including team legend James Harrison getting himself kicked off the team. Then we have the damning comments from Juju and Najee as soon as they were out the door with a new team. Steelers are a frat house, that’s why everyone says they want to play there, not because they’re learning advanced concepts and becoming the best players they can be, they know it’s an easy gig.

Such an easy gig that the HC thinks he's coming down hard on the players for cancelling their air hockey tourney in the locker room, but only for the rookies. Gee that's Machiavellian type of punishment. How can Clown-lin be so harsh?

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

You read my mind. And at 24 y/o, I was not as immature as GP.

at whatever you are now,, youre worse,, **** ing stupid retard.

 

[Black & Gold Bleeder]

@ coolie @ Superman , @ Justin, @ Luna can you give this douche **** a vacation. Just tired of the constant river of garbage

 

[WindyCitySteel]

Who were the other options?



So they invest heavily on offense, we invest heavily on defense... They've won a playoff game now recently than us, even went to the super bowl. Or are we chopping that up to pure luck?

No, they had a good D that year and the two biggest problems in Pittsburgh are Tomlin and his ability to find a QB post Ben, mainly because he just wants a caretaker.

 

[WindyCitySteel]

So ignore the OL in the draft? They took a WR in the third round. A round you think we can find a replacement for GP. The draft will always be a crapshoot.

Tyler Boyd was talked about, and quickly dismissed. He didn't want to come here, and others didn't want him here. Samuel... Curtis Samuel? Hahaha

Ridley signed for a pretty good contract, and it was during the legal tampering. We don't know if we offered him anything or even had the chance. In fact, we don't know if any of those options wanted to come here, we're offered a contract, because they signed with other teams. Teams with better QB options.

No one is coming here without seriously over paying. And the Aiyuk trade that did then didn't happen, still would have cost them big time. And we'd still be looking at a similar situation, GP up for an extension.

They tried to address it, it didn't happen. They got it this year tho.

Just because they don’t take an OT for the 2nd straight year with a first round pick is not “ignoring the OL in the draft”. They still got Frazier and could have taken a tackle later.

 

[speedicut]

... the two biggest problems in Pittsburgh are Tomlin and his ability to find a QB post Ben, mainly because he just wants a caretaker.

So you're saying Tomlin doesn't want a franchise QB?

 

[WindyCitySteel]

So you're saying Tomlin doesn't want a franchise QB?

He wants his kind of franchise QB. Pickett was his guy.

 

[speedicut]

So Tomlin decided to use a first round pick for a caretaker?

Sounds legit Bob!

 

[insaniti]

Just because they don’t take an OT for the 2nd straight year with a first round pick is not “ignoring the OL in the draft”. They still got Frazier and could have taken a tackle later.

Kind of like how they drafted a WR? So did they try to address it or didn't they?

 

[Fiji Mariner]

He wants his kind of franchise QB. Pickett was his guy.

If Pickett was “his guy”
Why would Tomlin bring in Fields, who he had reportedly wanted and then Russ too who was definitely his primary target.

Had “his guy” but then targeted two more QBs in a pedigree guy he liked and always spoke highly of and then his actual guy/target OldeRuss.

It just makes very little sense…which Mike’s handling of a QB room never really does make sense (so at least he’s consistent).

Just guessing here but I’d wager the hometown kid was a parting gift from Colbert and was actually Art’s guy. Colbert also gave Tomlin a past pedigree guy Trubisky on his way out the door (a true Tomlin QB caretaker if there ever was one).

Pretty sure the two bombs Colbert departed leaving us with were Trubisky (a Tomlin guy) and KFP (an Art guy).

When both of these options looked clearly like they were not a solution he moved onto another pedigree guy in JF and “his guy” OldeRuss.

Hopefully they lock Mike outta any QB decisions moving forward cuz unless he is handed a HOF QB he is clueless managing a QB room…and even more clueless in development of a QB

 

[WindyCitySteel]

If Pickett was “his guy”
Why would Tomlin bring in Fields, who he had reportedly wanted and then Russ too who was definitely his primary target.

Had “his guy” but then targeted two more QBs in a pedigree guy he liked and always spoke highly of and then his actual guy/target OldeRuss.

It just makes very little sense…which Mike’s handling of a QB room never really does make sense (so at least he’s consistent).

Just guessing here but I’d wager the hometown kid was a parting gift from Colbert and was actually Art’s guy. Colbert also gave Tomlin a past pedigree guy Trubisky on his way out the door (a true Tomlin QB caretaker if there ever was one).

Pretty sure the two bombs Colbert departed leaving us with were Trubisky (a Tomlin guy) and KFP (an Art guy).

When both of these options looked clearly like they were not a solution he moved onto another pedigree guy in JF and “his guy” OldeRuss.

Hopefully they lock Mike outta any QB decisions moving forward cuz unless he is handed a HOF QB he is clueless managing a QB room…and even more clueless in development of a QB

Things change over time, Pickett acted like a petulant child in 2023. But this legit happened in 2022, no way they gave a lame duck GM carte blanche to pick the next franchise QB for a “HOF” coach. If that happened, then Tomlin should have walked. Remember, Tomlin turned on both Fields and Russ last year.

https://www.pennlive.com/sports/202...ns-guy-soon-hell-be-the-steelers-starter.html

The message could not be clearer: Pickett is Pittsburgh’s man. More importantly, he’s Mike Tomlin’s guy. In fact, the coach phoned up some Steelers’ veterans after the Pickett pick to say precisely that: “We got our guy.”

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Things change over time, Pickett acted like a petulant child in 2023. But this legit happened in 2022, no way they gave a lame duck GM carte blanche to pick the next franchise QB for a “HOF” coach. If that happened, then Tomlin should have walked. Remember, Tomlin turned on both Fields and Russ last year.

https://www.pennlive.com/sports/202...ns-guy-soon-hell-be-the-steelers-starter.html

In no way did I suggest Colbert was given Carte Blanche
Just that as acting GM his two parting gifts were an Art guy and a Tomlin guy

When did Tomlin “turn on Russ”?
He stuck with with him through that entire collapse when many suggested giving Fields another shot

 

[Lloyd]

I hope we don’t repeat last year again, but I just don’t see this team of all teams spending top dollar on two WRs.

Well, if we don't, we will have to draft one, in what round? We need DL, RB for starters and have no 2nd rounder to boot. If we trade GP maybe we get a 2nd? And then we need a QB. What a mess. Art, you have screwed this team.

 

[Lloyd]

In no way did I suggest Colbert was given Carter Blanche
Just that as acting GM his two parting gifts were an Art guy and a Tomlin guy

When did Tomlin “turn on Russ”?
He stuck with with him through that entire collapse when many suggested giving Fields another shot

There was something "more to the picture" than we were shown: either official or not. But there had to be some agreement to Russ that it was HIS show down the stretch. Or else, why was he kept the starter regardless of all other factors. He flat out stunk his last month and into the playoffs. Why was he kept on?

 

[Litos]

If Pickett was “his guy”
Why would Tomlin bring in Fields, who he had reportedly wanted and then Russ too who was definitely his primary target.

Had “his guy” but then targeted two more QBs in a pedigree guy he liked and always spoke highly of and then his actual guy/target OldeRuss.

It just makes very little sense…which Mike’s handling of a QB room never really does make sense (so at least he’s consistent).

Just guessing here but I’d wager the hometown kid was a parting gift from Colbert and was actually Art’s guy. Colbert also gave Tomlin a past pedigree guy Trubisky on his way out the door (a true Tomlin QB caretaker if there ever was one).

Pretty sure the two bombs Colbert departed leaving us with were Trubisky (a Tomlin guy) and KFP (an Art guy).

When both of these options looked clearly like they were not a solution he moved onto another pedigree guy in JF and “his guy” OldeRuss.

Hopefully they lock Mike outta any QB decisions moving forward cuz unless he is handed a HOF QB he is clueless managing a QB room…and even more clueless in development of a QB

to be fair, this was the order in which things happened:
- FO starts negotiatios with Russell Wilson and signs him for pennies due to his broncos contract
- KP says **** it, "I'm not getting benched to favor Old Russ, I'll make a tantrum and request a trade if I can't be guaranteed the starting spot and I don't want to fight for it in camp"
- KP gets traded to a place he surely won't have a chance to start but is his hometown team so he leaves a place with a chance to start to a place he is ensured to hold a clipboard.
- Steelers engage in negotiations with Da Bears to complete the QB stable with Fields and gets him

Fields was only thought of after KP requested a trade and was sent off

 

[NorthernBlitz]

to be fair, this was the order in which things happened:
- FO starts negotiatios with Russell Wilson and signs him for pennies due to his broncos contract
- KP says **** it, "I'm not getting benched to favor Old Russ, I'll make a tantrum and request a trade if I can't be guaranteed the starting spot and I don't want to fight for it in camp"
- KP gets traded to a place he surely won't have a chance to start but is his hometown team so he leaves a place with a chance to start to a place he is ensured to hold a clipboard.
- Steelers engage in negotiations with Da Bears to complete the QB stable with Fields and gets him

Fields was only thought of after KP requested a trade and was sent off

I think we know that the timeline you have is correct until the last bullet (bold parts).

You could very well be correct. But we don't actually know that.

If we go by what the Steelers said, they weren't talking to Wilson and were going to bring back Mason and Kenny to compete.

I think there's always phone calls going on in the background to gauge the value of guys. And given that we got Fields for less than what we got in return for Kenny, it's certainly possible those things could have happened either way.

Aside: It will be interesting to see what the Browns do at QB now. They currently have 3 QBs under contract (Watson, Flacco, and Pickett). With such a high pick, they could easily draft a QB. If they did, they probably cut at least one of those three guys. I think there's a close to 0% chance this happens, but in the funniest timeline we see Mason and Kenny competing for the starting job this season.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

to be fair, this was the order in which things happened:
- FO starts negotiatios with Russell Wilson and signs him for pennies due to his broncos contract
- KP says **** it, "I'm not getting benched to favor Old Russ, I'll make a tantrum and request a trade if I can't be guaranteed the starting spot and I don't want to fight for it in camp"
- KP gets traded to a place he surely won't have a chance to start but is his hometown team so he leaves a place with a chance to start to a place he is ensured to hold a clipboard.
- Steelers engage in negotiations with Da Bears to complete the QB stable with Fields and gets him

Fields was only thought of after KP requested a trade and was sent off

My whole Point was I don’t think KFP was ever “Tomlin’s guy” just a guy he was given on his roster, not some QB he hand picked.

But thanks for the timeline refresher. Thought Fields was brought in before Kenny traded but at any rate my point remains the same.

I’ll continue to believe KFP was an Art pick until proven otherwise…all I’ve seen points to that being the case.

Trubisky and Russ were 110% “Tomlin guys”

But yeah your timeline is accurate: traded KFP away shortly after Russ signed and then Tomlin got one of his pedigree crushes to round out the void in the QB room. I couldn’t remember the exact sequence (that whole March17th range was a Jameson cloud )