Steelers Reportedly Targeting 3 Free Agent QBs

[bermudasteel]

Is Mitch really better than Rudy???

 

[FatsHolmes]

What part of the Lions game did he look great? I mean I think that is about average of what we'll see from Rudolph on a weekly basis and it wasn't very good.

So 24 hours before the game he gets told he's starting. The gameplan designed for Ben's talents, not his. And you're going to pass judgment based on that.

How about last year's game against Cleveland (honestly, I had forgotten about the Lions game).

 

[SteelerFan448]

So 24 hours before the game he gets told he's starting. The gameplan designed for Ben's talents, not his. And you're going to pass judgment based on that.

How about last year's game against Cleveland (honestly, I had forgotten about the Lions game).

Rudolph got starting reps throughout the entire training camp, preseason, and multiple times per week because Ben didn't practice much. He showed average accuracy, doesn't throw his receivers open. The Lions game was underwhelming and he was okay in the Browns game. Neither made me want to hand him the job.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Of all 3 of those, I only have interest in Mitch Trib.
For reasons already stated.
Zero interest in the other 2.
Also, let me say this…..
Mitch got JOBBED in Chicago.
He’s the only one of the three that could possibly be a reclamation project that actually pays off huge, like hitting the lottery.
He’ll be cheapest of the three. If he can’t beat out Mason and Dwayne, then we spent next to nothing on him.
BUT, if we hit, it’s HUGE and we now have our QB for the next decade and can focus on EVERYTHING else.
For the record, I do NOT see this scenario happening with any of these three.
But as far as the best of the three as long shot lottery ticket, he’s the one.

I agree with what you are saying O'h great wise man, keep your great post(s) coming !!!!

I'm no expert and was looking at Jamis as y first. The more Mitch I hear about the more intrigued I become. I don't think we can go wrong with either for as cheap as they will cost but like many point out the up side and long term see to favor Trib. more than Jamis.



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[Drink IRON City]

Wig the goal should always be winning. You don't take a year off from that. There is enough cap space to make this team competitive. They can even free up more space if desired.

Here is a thing lost on fans if you don't trust your GM/HC to get you to the promised land with what is available now, that won't change with a worse record and trading up. That very well could leave you at 8 and 8 just as easily.

Really don't get why fans think that a drafting a franchise is a magical fix. Last two years a free agent QB won a SB that route is just as doable. And even if you draft a QB high there is no guarantees.

With the right GM/HC tandem you can go far.

Not sure this team has that. Give me the best opportunity to win and win now. Make this team competitive capable.

Not two years from now, now.

TOTALLY AGREE and an Excellent post, thanks slash, always appreciate them




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[Drink IRON City]

Is Mitch really better than Rudy???

Is Mitch really better than Rudy???

I can see us wanting to upgrade just to upgrade, We all get caught up in that. We have a project in Haskins that could surprise many of us but that's a wait and prove it type scene.

Mason Rudolf is suppose to QB this team otherwise why the hell did we keep him for so long ?? Was he an oversight by our coaching staff or do they see soething we haven't ???

I don't have the answers but it is entertainment for the off-season




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[FatsHolmes]

Rudolph got starting reps throughout the entire training camp, preseason, and multiple times per week because Ben didn't practice much. He showed average accuracy, doesn't throw his receivers open. The Lions game was underwhelming and he was okay in the Browns game. Neither made me want to hand him the job.

So the game plan for the Lions game was designed for Rudolph? He had an opportunity to practice all week with his receivers to get their timing down (a significant part of that accuracy you talk about)?

Sure the Lions game was underwhelming. It would have been surprising if it wasn't.

I don't think Rudolph is the long-term answer, but I think he's good enough to take us through rebuilding a line so we don't ruin a draft pick like the Browns did repeatedly.

 

[SteelerFan448]

So the game plan for the Lions game was designed for Rudolph? He had an opportunity to practice all week with his receivers to get their timing down (a significant part of that accuracy you talk about)?

Sure the Lions game was underwhelming. It would have been surprising if it wasn't.

I don't think Rudolph is the long-term answer, but I think he's good enough to take us through rebuilding a line so we don't ruin a draft pick like the Browns did repeatedly.

The Lions were one of the worst teams in the league. Ryan Mallett came off the street and beat the Steelers before. Roethlisberger didn't practice on Wednesday or Thursday ahead of the Lions game. I just don't buy that a QB can't step in and play well. Rudolph is what he is and several of his teammates haven't even given him a vote of confidence. There are other ways to acquire a QB other than in the first round of the draft.

 

[MT~Forged]

Everyone has different opinions, not a big deal. Some see 3-4 plays and make a decision, others don’t. I am in the camp of giving Rudy the chance, and using the Draft picks and cap space to address the issues that pay dividends for years to come. If it turns out Rudy is not ”the guy” then you are just a QB away from being competitive again with a supporting cast already onboard. Blowing your wad this year on a FA QB without addressing the other issues, just prolongs the pain.

 

[Drink IRON City]

Everyone has different opinions, not a big deal. Some see 3-4 plays and make a decision, others don’t. I am in the camp of giving Rudy the chance, and using the Draft picks and cap space to address the issues that pay dividends for years to come. If it turns out Rudy is not ”the guy” then you are just a QB away from being competitive again with a supporting cast already onboard. Blowing your wad this year on a FA QB without addressing the other issues, just prolongs the pain.

You are absolutely right, in my opinion, in this view.

Bottom line is what mode of opinion is the front office / coaching in. If they actually think they are a link away and go BIG QB then that is what they will do, even to most of our's disappointent. This would set this tea back possibly 3-5 years and then that QB up and leaves.




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[Ike Kelly]

I'm one of those who believe Rudolph is no more than a spot starter and full-time clipboard holder at best.

In the games I've seen him play, and I've missed few games over the years, he looks good/decent in the first drive. Sometimes that extends to the first 2-3 drives. Then, its as if he hits a mental block. He locks on to receivers. He panics. He panics a lot. I mean, dude is large. Not Ben large, but Rudolph isnt a small stature guy like Duck is. I don't hate on the guy, but he's limited. Sure, he may throw some damn good passes in practice, and look the part at that time... but when **** gets real, he's a different guy altogether.

If Tomlin doesnt want his "no losing record" busted, we'll move on from Rudolph. He's the same guy who allowed us to tie the Lions, and they're picking 2nd in this draft. In then game vs the Lions, Mason threw 50 times. for 242 yards. Completed 30. Eye-popping 8 yards per completion. The following week, against the Chargers, Ben throws for 273 yards on 28 completions in 44 attempts. 9.75 yards per completion.

Largely the same teammates, Ben led us to the playoffs. Somehow. If Mason were our #1QB the rest of the way, we'd be looking at one of the top 5 draft picks, IMO.

Worlds of difference between old, broken down Ben and almost-prime Mason. Rudolph even had his college security blanket to throw to, and that didn't help his progression since being drafted. And that should have helped both Mason and Washington. Odd how it didn't.

IMO, we should go for Trubisky. A modest 3-4 year deal. Not a bank-breaking one, but one that would make no doubt that he's our #1QB in 2022. As such, I'd also not hesitate to draft Matt Corral if he were to fall to us. Yes, Corral has some ugly parts to his game. Those can be cleaned up. I'm not sure if Tomlin can do that, but maybe Sullivan can. And I'd only draft Corral if Penning was off the board. IMO, Corral is the only QB in the draft worthy of a 1st round grade, and that's pushing the definition.

That’s a fair observation by you Supe. We as a fan base have to admit we’ve been spoiled having a bonafide franchise QB for almost two decades. However, you have to recognize that in the DET game, Mason didn’t cost us the win, the fumbles by DJ and Friermuth on consecutive drives to possibly kick a winning FG did. As FatsHomes said, the game plan wasn’t Mason’s. Mason was notified he was the starter 24 hours before the game started.

 

[topseed]

Everyone has different opinions, not a big deal. Some see 3-4 plays and make a decision, others don’t. I am in the camp of giving Rudy the chance, and using the Draft picks and cap space to address the issues that pay dividends for years to come. If it turns out Rudy is not ”the guy” then you are just a QB away from being competitive again with a supporting cast already onboard. Blowing your wad this year on a FA QB without addressing the other issues, just prolongs the pain.

They already prolonged the pain by bringing Ben back last season. His cap hit last year was $26 million, plus another $10+ mill in dead space in 2022. They could have swallowed $22 mill in dead cap last year and been done with it.

Trubisky will sign somewhere (probably not the with the Steelers) for a fraction of that, most likely less than $10 million per season in a short-term deal -- that's not blowing your wad on a free agent quarterback, it's giving your team a more realistic chance to compete while you have the defensive player of the year in his prime on the other side of the ball.

 

[Fiji Mariner]

Not a Rudolph supporter or hater (lot of folks chatting about 1 tie as “proof” of something)

It seems everyone was all too ready to place any offensive woes on the OL and Canada with Ben in there, but when Rudy gets the start vs Detroit with few reps it’s all on him that we tied. Pretty sure he didn’t tell DJ and Muth to just throw the ball on the ground, and let’s not forget he was behind the same pos OL and an OC that had him put it in the air 50 times.

I think the jury is still out on him to an extent. I lean towards he’s a solid backup and hope like hell he’s more than that. As for long term success of the franchise, he’s probably out best option this year unless he get lucky on a bridge QB like Winston/Trubisky/Brissett

I’m more than willing to get behind him if he wins the job if it means we didn’t throw years of picks down the drain on Rodgers/Wilson or draft one of the many slappy QBs coming out too early.

 

[stillwright]

I am just curious how Rogers would actually preform behind this OL. Maybe his "GREATNESS" will prove me wrong.....I simply don't think he will do any better than Ben did last year. Once you start getting hit after 1.5 seconds on a consistent basis Rogers might be quick r
to dump it off to his first read even though it is third and 9 and his pass is to a player 1 or 2 yards past the LOS. Those old bodies simply don't like getting hit for some reason.

 

[MT~Forged]

They already prolonged the pain by bringing Ben back last season. His cap hit last year was $26 million, plus another $10+ mill in dead space in 2022. They could have swallowed $22 mill in dead cap last year and been done with it.

Trubisky will sign somewhere (probably not the with the Steelers) for a fraction of that, most likely less than $10 million per season in a short-term deal -- that's not blowing your wad on a free agent quarterback, it's giving your team a more realistic chance to compete while you have the defensive player of the year in his prime on the other side of the ball.

And they did that because they thought they were just a QB away from being competitive. See how that turned out?

 

[topseed]

And they did that because they thought they were just a QB away from being competitive. See how that turned out?

The Steelers were mostly competitive last year, but no team with a quarterback who had a lower passer rating than Ben made the playoffs...he simply wasn't good enough. Better play from the QB position will yield improved results this season, if they can find it, and it can come at a much cheaper cost as well.