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Steelers select Dri Archer in Round 3

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For all those who are mad at not taking Bryant with our 3rd instead of Archer. LMFAO

I commented on this post in the wide out section, looks like a lot of far off speculation. There were lots of players with similar ratings of quality from what I have read but it seems that after the second round by the time our third pick which was a comp pick rolled around there were lots of projects. It looks like everyone left had some serious issues in their game. Once we realize the steelers got 2 quality players early on and then began taking projects the draft is easy to understand. They took players that had at least one physical gift some had two. Speed was a big choice and so was large size. Speed Shazier, Archer, Size McCullers, Some of both Tuitt, Bryant. That is 5 guys right there that determined the theme for this draft.

Just because you want a tall fast coverage corner in the late third does not mean you will get one if he is not there, just one example. The more I look at this draft the more positives I see things regarding our selections. Including Archer, if he does not work out ok, odds were rather good that what ever else was available had a better chance of not working out than working out as well.
 
Do you disagree with my position that we got better (however measured) at most positions?

I have never had a problem w your comments brother...you are a rockstar...just a healthy debate.

I think we are better at all positions except OLB and WR (for the most part). I don't know if EITHER Worilds or Jones shows up in any meaningful way this year. BUT, like I said, who was there in this draft after the first round that was a lock to play OLB well in the NFL? There aren't any FAs either...except Deebo, who is the top rated FA OLB who is not yet signed. Go get his *** before someone else does. It's either that or go w 'no sack' Carter or 'lucky to get a sack' Moats. Hell, I'd be happy to see Baxter or Phillip Hunt.The market is slim pickins for OLBs this off season and the 2015 draft doesn't look much better. We gotta have a plan right?

We are better at ILB and DL. I love the first two picks. I disagree that we are better at WR, OL, CB, NT, OLB and TE. I would not have taken a RB in the 3rd round this year. The Steelers have 2 stud RBs already. Bell is an every down back IMHO. I'd never take him off the field for Archer because when he is in the game the defense doesn't know if it is a run or a pass. Plus Bell needs the touches. Also Archer doesn't even have a real position. It isn't like they took the best WR or RB available.
 
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sweet titties indeed
 
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For all those who are mad at not taking Bryant with our 3rd instead of Archer. LMFAO

From that video, I think Bryan ran his route the hardest, he just stopped after he caught the ball. "Finish it 10" is supposed to motivate the man. Keep him thinking. Keep him working hard.

So forget value as they see it and reach??? The player they were going to take they still got. I just dont know what else they were suppose to do. They might not be right about Archer but at least they stuck to their board.

And im on record for saying i would have taken Desir or Bryant there. Didnt warm up to the pick until i watched some game film.

Fortunately the Steelers were smarter and got Bryant in the 4th...

ATTN DEL or TMC:

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around how a 5'8" kid can run the 40 in the least amount of strides ever. I suppose it has to do with leg strength and explosion. If this is the case, he must have the most explosive legs ever in the history of football?

It's a unique measurable, that you usually see in long striding tall receivers, not in 5'8" RBs. What do you make of it?
 
If it hasnt been said already..


How freggin fun is it going to be playing as the Steelers in Madden this year?

5 wide with Dri Archer in the slot...:p
3 KR/PR TD's a game:cool:
Hell, I would even consider entirely replacing Bell with Archer, and using Blount for the short stuff:D
 
If it hasnt been said already..


How freggin fun is it going to be playing as the Steelers in Madden this year?

5 wide with Dri Archer in the slot...:p
3 KR/PR TD's a game:cool:
Hell, I would even consider entirely replacing Bell with Archer, and using Blount for the short stuff:D

Flag on the play. Copyright violation, 10 yards, repeat 3rd down.

Its "5 WIDE *******!" or its nothing at all. Get with the program, man.
 
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That is one way to keep a thread going. And it is pointing up!
 
Steelers rookie Archer getting up to speed

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PITTSBURGH (AP) — Dri Archer just kind of laughs. He can't help it. Spend most of your life as the smallest player on the football field and you get used to the incessant questions about beating the odds.

"I've always been the littlest guy out there," Archer said. "I don't even think about it."
Fear is not an option for the 5-foot-8, 173-pound Pittsburgh Steelers rookie. He doesn't worry about how his slender frame will hold up to the rigors of the NFL because it wouldn't do any good. Archer has been playing football since he was in first grade, when he would wrap flags around his waist imitate Hall of Fame running back Barry Sanders.
The 22-year-old never met a tackle he couldn't walk — or better yet, sprint — away from. There's no reason to think it will be any different as a professional.
"I just want to come in and contribute, do what I've always done," Archer said Thursday.
For the Steelers, that will be a little bit of everything. Offensive coordinator Todd Haley figures to get creative with how to use Archer, whose eye-popping 40-yard dash time of 4.26 seconds at the NFL combine earlier this spring was the second fastest in combine history.
It's that number — and not the ones next to his height and weight — that leapt out to the Steelers.
"Whatever way we can find to get this kid the ball or to have him involved in our offense we are going to do that as a staff," running backs coach James Saxon said. "(Offensive coordinator) Todd Haley is going to do a great job with that. We are all going to work together to get this guy in the right place."
The right place could be any place. Though he spent most of his time at Kent State at running back — where his 7.2 career yards per carry looks like a misprint — Archer is more than just 68 inches of kinetic energy who hides behind his massive offensive linemen. He also caught 99 passes and returned four kickoffs for touchdowns during his college career.
Though the NFL is one step — more likely two — over what he saw on a weekly basis while playing in the Mid-American Conference, Archer is confident he can make the leap. This is the same player, after all, whose Twitter profile picture is a drawing of him wearing a No. 1 jersey with a cape on the back.
"You've just got to learn to do the right things," he said. "I'm just trying to learn the playbook and be where I'm supposed to be at all times."
Archer is just the latest attempt by the Steelers to find a Swiss Army knife in the backfield. Pittsburgh grabbed sprinter/running back Chris Rainey in the fifth round of the 2012 draft. Rainey was ineffective on the field and a problem off it, eventually getting cut in January 2013 after being charged with slapping his girlfriend.
There are no such character concerns with Archer, who has quickly ingratiated himself with his teammates no matter which meeting he happens to be in, whether it's with the running backs or the wide receivers.
Saxon praised Archer for his toughness and it's worth noting Archer missed only a handful of games across four seasons at Kent State despite handling the ball nearly 500 times. He averaged a touchdown once every 13 times he touched the ball in college.
While it's unfair to expect that kind of production in the NFL, Archer understands his unique skill set gives the Steelers a speedy yin to the powerful yang of top running backs Le'Veon Bell and LeGarrette Blount. He understands there are skeptics who will wonder if he was worth a third-round pick. That's fine. The skeptics haven't been right yet.
"That's why I play with a chip on my shoulder," Archer said. "Everyone tells me I am too small. I can't take hits. I can't do this and I can't do that. I am just out here to play football. And I know what I can do."
 
Great Read, thank you!!!!! The kid is saying the right things. Sounds like he is working hard too.!!



Salute the nation
 
Saxon praised Archer for his toughness and it's worth noting Archer missed only a handful of games across four seasons at Kent State despite handling the ball nearly 500 times.
What? Reading Idioteque's posts I was nearly convinced this kid is weak, frail and severely injury-prone!
 
Great read. I can't wait to preseason to see him on the field!
 
What? Reading Idioteque's posts I was nearly convinced this kid is weak, frail and severely injury-prone!

Idioteque speaks the truth. How dare you insinuate anything less. He will be broken in half in training camp. He will be squished like a bug. Someone will use him as a toothpick.
 
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What? Reading Idioteque's posts I was nearly convinced this kid is weak, frail and severely injury-prone!

please refer to tab color fuscia, column 7, row 213.
if you click on it, a pie chart and graph appears to 'splain this in simple terms.
 
please refer to tab color fuscia, column 7, row 213.
if you click on it, a pie chart and graph appears to 'splain this in simple terms.

Remember- these are the 10 guys we'll look back at years from now and wish we had taken instead-

Bruce Ellington
Rashaad Reynolds
Antonio Richardson
Carl Bradford
Ryan Carrethers
Justin Ellis
Daquan Jones
Jared Abbrederis
Cameron Fleming
Nevin Lawson

:)
 
Remember- these are the 10 guys we'll look back at years from now and wish we had taken instead-

Bruce Ellington
Rashaad Reynolds
Antonio Richardson
Carl Bradford
Ryan Carrethers
Justin Ellis
Daquan Jones
Jared Abbrederis
Cameron Fleming
Nevin Lawson

:)

This plotline is one of the sadder I've seen on this board.
 
Well, he is tiny and did get injured quite often.

Originally Posted by antdrewjosh
Saxon praised Archer for his toughness and it's worth noting Archer missed only a handful of games across four seasons at Kent State despite handling the ball nearly 500 times.
 
Originally Posted by antdrewjosh
Saxon praised Archer for his toughness and it's worth noting Archer missed only a handful of games across four seasons at Kent State despite handling the ball nearly 500 times.

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Speculation is rampant on the Kent State fan forum about Dri Archer, his ankle injury, and why he is on the sidelines while other injured players are making their way back onto the field.

Everything from NFL handlers to a weak heart have been thrown out as reasons the top returning kickoff man in the nation has barely taken a snap this season. He touched the ball for three plays against Liberty. Archer was injured on the second, and never returned after the third.

Watching him walk now on the sidelines without a limp, and without a boot, signals a player at least 80 percent healthy, and good to go.

Yet none of those fans are in his shoes. Head coach Paul Haynes tried to explain Archer's absence simply; "he's a runner."

What few fans know is Archer was just as banged up at this point last season, missing the final quarter of the Kentucky game and wearing a boot for the following week. Then coach Darrell Hazell privately said, had Kent played on the regular seven-day schedule, Archer likely would not have played against Buffalo.

But there was a 10-day break for Kent between Kentucky and Buffalo. Then another 10 days between UB and Ball State. One game in 20 days, allowing Archer to heal. Kent and Archer have no such luxury now with No. 8 LSU this Saturday, on the road.

Archer is not Bo Jackson. He's 5-8 (maybe), and 175 pounds (maybe). There's a reason, even when healthy, why Kent tries to limit Archer's touches to less than 15 per game. 'He's a runner' and that is Archer's one and only asset.

Certainly offensive linemen Pat McShane (knee) and Jason Bitsko (ankle) were good enough to play at 80 percent against Bowling Green. Yet they were limited to 20 snaps or less. Had Archer played he likely would have been held to five or 10.

"But I don't know that (Archer) was 80 percent,'' Haynes said.

McShane and Bitsko rely on strength to command their positions. For Archer to be effective he has to literally be on his toes. Anyone who has ever had a badly twisted or sprained ankle knows, while walking can be pain free, rising on your toes and running can be excruciating.

"Dri is trying to do everything he can to come back,'' Haynes said. "But it's a nagging thing that, when you are a runner, and feel a little bit limited in running, it's a mental thing and a physical thing. But he's going to try to go.

"I hate to keep saying day-to-day, but it is going to be a day-to-day thing for him. As the week goes on, we'll see how it is. Again, he's in that boat, too, when you look at Pat McShane, and you look at your final goals. With knees and ankles, if you keep beating them up and banging them up, you never get right. Now you are killing them for the rest of the season.

"When we come off this road trip we got to be ready to roll and win the MAC, and you want them healthy. So it's a fine line for the next two weeks on how we assess those guys and what we do with those guys.''

Archer's Heisman Trophy hopes - slim to begin with - are certainly gone now. But his NFL hopes hinge on being productive when he is on the field. Specialists are not unheard of on the NFL level, so there can be a place for him. As long as Archer proves he can returns kicks and punts, his NFL dreams can still be met.

He just has to get back on the field as close to 100 percent as possible to show he can still deliver.

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This is about two of his recent injuries, It might take some time for me to document them all.
 
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