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Steelers select Martavis Bryant in Round 4

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I'm really loving this draft. Plus it doesn't make the Archer pick look that bad for everyone that hated it. 6'4 and runs a 4.42 forty.
 
Why did he last till the 4th round? What are his negatives? Can't catch?
 
Why did he last till the 4th round? What are his negatives? Can't catch?

NFLN said he only had one year of production to measure him by, and that he had some maturity issues?
 
Why did he last till the 4th round? What are his negatives? Can't catch?

Body catcher. Academic issues. Only had one productive year in school.

The positives, however, are monumental. I was very down on the guy because I assumed it would take a second to get him, and he has too much bust potential for take at #46. I love the pick in the 4th.
 
Why did he last till the 4th round? What are his negatives? Can't catch?

Google is your friend :) http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/martavis-bryant?id=2543572

Analysis

Strengths
Superb body length with a long, rangy frame. Very good straight-line, separation speed. Can drop his hips surprisingly well for as tall as he is and is fairly shifty after the catch. Good red-zone target -- effective making back-shoulder catches. Flashes the ability to climb the ladder and highpoint the ball. Has return experience.

Weaknesses
Shaky hands -- tends to double-clutch the ball and makes too many easy drops. Is not a polished route runner -- is stiff in and out of his breaks. Lacks toughness desired to work the middle of the field. Must prove that he is willing to work to assimilate a playbook and learn the finer points of the game.

Draft Projection
Rounds 4-5

Bottom Line
A lean, long-limbed, rangy, outside-the-numbers, big-play receiver, Bryant declared for the draft early with underclassmen nipping at his playing time late in the season. Will require additional seasoning to make a mark in the pro game. A better tester than football player at this stage of his development, he has tools to be molded if he learns to hone his focus.
 
NFLN said he only had one year of production to measure him by, and that he had some maturity issues?

Yep. They said 1st round talent with solid numbers and athletic measurements, just needs to work out the maturity issues.
 
It seems like there is no middle ground in his NFL projection. Either the light comes on he's a star player, or it doesn't and he's out of the league in two years.

Definitely worth the gamble at this point in the draft.
 
Body catcher. Academic issues. Only had one productive year in school.

The positives, however, are monumental. I was very down on the guy because I assumed it would take a second to get him, and he has too much bust potential for take at #46. I love the pick in the 4th.

Nice analysis and I agree. My question is - is his potential better because of the two inches he has on Kevin Norwood? Norwood is a pure catcher w/ NO ISSUES.

It is what it is - just contemplating the differences between the two...
 
Nice analysis and I agree. My question is - is his potential better because of the two inches he has on Kevin Norwood? Norwood is a pure catcher w/ NO ISSUES.

It is what it is - just contemplating the differences between the two...

Norwood doesn't have the upside of Bryant...but that's about it.
 
Eases the pain of Archer early............ now for a few corners? :)
 
bermudasteel said:
Nice analysis and I agree. My question is - is his potential better because of the two inches he has on Kevin Norwood? Norwood is a pure catcher w/ NO ISSUES.

It is what it is - just contemplating the differences between the two...

Height doesn't concern me much,. It's very misleading. A guy who is 6'5 190 and doesn't try is probably going to be a lesser jump ball/red zone receiver than a guy who is 6'1 215 and goes after the ball. I care more about bulk and frame.

I like Norwood. I had Bryant as my #17 WR and Norwood #20. But Norwood is strictly a slot guy. He's not strong and is a very average athlete. Slot guys have a lot of value, but most draft classes (like this one) are loaded with productive slot types. Very few have Bryant's potential.

Now, Bryant may never develop into a starter. His hands are bad. He doesn't go across the middle, and he doesn't consistently beat his man on the outside. Not especially physical. He is the antonym of Anquan Boldin.

That said, the line between starter and backup/contributor is blurring these days. I don't think we're drafting Bryant to be the every-down bookend to Antonio; I think our goal is to make him a valuable piece of the passing game. In three wide-sets down the road, you kick Antonio or Wheaton (both natural slot receivers) inside and give Bryant a downfield route to scorch his man and go up for the ball. Like Chris Henry. If he becomes a 50/900/7 guy, he's more than worth the minimal risk.
 
Love this pick

Ben loves his tall receivers
 
Love this pick

Ben loves his tall receivers

Ben loves talking about them but his best and most productive WRs were all smallish: Ward, Holmes, EL, Wilson, Brown, Wallace... etc...
 
Ben loves talking about them but his best and most productive WRs were all smallish: Ward, Holmes, EL, Wilson, Brown, Wallace... etc...

Burress has been the only legit tall receiver that he has had.
 
wexell and bouchette are great smoke screen for us, bouchette is fading into a clueless writer for the paper that shall not be named.
 
When Watkins was getting all the love at Clemson, Bryant stepped up and broke a lot of big plays in some pretty good games.
 
Burress has been the only legit tall receiver that he has had.

I'm going to say this about our former giraffe:

I called Plax a bust because he had two knocks against him...

1) Slow 40 time. I thought he'd never get open, never get separation.

2) Questionable hands coming out of college. The "body catcher" assessment was also made of him.

Plax proved me wrong, and went on to catch the game winner in a SB. This guy doesn't have problem number 1. As for number two, you can play well without great natural hands if you work hard at it. Terrell Owen's natural position is RB, not WR. He never had great hands, but when he didn't have the dropsies, he was magic.

So the question is this: Is he the next Plax, or is he another Limas Sweed?
 
Wow i never heard that T. Owens natural position was RB. I disagree with that 1000%.
 
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