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Steelers site has part one of behind the draft up

Definitely more style than substance, but I enjoyed watching it. I bet the next few episodes will be better.
 
Part two up now, looks like Haley was one of the main dudes wanting Archer, seems to imply Dick L was very interested in Tuitt, this was less fluff than that last one, looking forward to the final installment. I hope they do this every year, it's a nice offseason filler.

Joe
 
Part two up now, looks like Haley was one of the main dudes wanting Archer, seems to imply Dick L was very interested in Tuitt, this was less fluff than that last one, looking forward to the final installment. I hope they do this every year, it's a nice offseason filler.

Joe

There's 4 parts total isn't there?
 
Part two up now, looks like Haley was one of the main dudes wanting Archer, seems to imply Dick L was very interested in Tuitt, this was less fluff than that last one, looking forward to the final installment. I hope they do this every year, it's a nice offseason filler.

Joe
Someone in the 50+ page debacle made mention of this...
 
I thought there were only 3, heck, if there are four that will be even better! :)
 
Does anyone know when 3 will be out?
 
Been watching more to get a better look at their positional board. Finally showed a good shot (8:12 mark), tho everything right of OLB was cut off. That's ok, cuz from previous photos I could make that out anyways. They had two photos of their board at steelers.com on draft day one. One was a blurry shot from a distance, and the other was an overexposed black and white right before their pick of Shazier. Could make out some things, but other things weren't so clear or confident. If there was a prospect at a position where there were gaps between him and the next guy, it was discernible. It was just when players were bunched and the blur bled into each other that it got dicey. Couldn't tell if it was two prospect or three, like at WR or OT.

But the screen shot from this video makes most of it pretty clear. And those few players to the right of OLB were isolated players so they could be made out. So as a composite, it all came into much better focus, so to speak.

Anyways, 12 players populate the first 2 rows, 19 takes you thru row 3. Which is how many prospects Colbert said they felt comfortable taking R1. Donald has to be the lone DT/NT in that range, as that prospects card is removed in the b/w photo when the Steelers are on the clock. Tuitt pretty much has to be that lone DE in the top 19, as the drop from there makes it nearly impossible for the 2nd DE on their board to be him (next DE is Row 5, 30+ prospects later).

Guessing Martin was outside their R1 hopefuls, 4th OT overall. Guessing their 5th was Kouandijo, cuz that card was redflagged, tho I can't tell if flagged for med or character (+ or O) Interesting, Lewan was not flagged at all. No red on the top 3 OTs.

Straddling the line between row 1 and row 2 is a TE, obviously Ebron. #7 overall on their board. #9 on their board is ILB, Shazier. #8 is their #3 OT. Rounding out row two at #10-12 is their top CB, DT/NT, DE in roughly that order, from what I can tell.

Their #3 and #4 WR are in that 'top 19', Top QB on their board sandwiched between them. They make up #13-15. Then CB, QB, CB, and ILB closing out their 19.

Obviously Shazier cannot be that second ILB at 19, so he's #9 on their board in the top ILB spot. Unlike CB, they didn't really host any of the top WRs for visits, so it's hard to say who their top 2-4 WRs were and what order. But I'd be shocked if Odell Beckham was rated higher on their board than one of Watkins or Evans, as well as Ebron and their #3 OT. Would put him at #6 overall on their board if Beckham is that #2 WR. Can't say for sure, but I really doubt that. Guessing he's #3 or #4 WR on their board. Which, like their top CB, would put him below Shazier on their board. All pointing towards what I suspected. Dulac (or his source) was full of crap.

Wasn't exactly linear in that summary, so here's a breakout:

1. OLB
2. WR
3. OT
4. OLB2
5. OT2
6. WR2
7. TE, Ebron
8. OT3
9. ILB, Shazier
10. CB Gilbert or Fuller, can't be Dennard
11. NT/DT Donald
12. DE Tuitt
13. WR3
14. QB
15. WR4
16. CB2
17. QB2
18. CB3
19. ILB2

Then it looks like:
20. ILB3
21. WR5
22. OT4
23. Safety
24. OT5 redflagged
25. TE2 redflagged

Then you get to row 5 and it bottlenecks, particularly at OLB, and RB. Row 1 appears to be reserved for the special players. Guys, who if they fell to them at their pick they'll run their card in immediately. If that's true, the guys they thought were special were their top 2 WR, top 2 OTs and top two OLBs. Row 2 looks to be guys who they think have a shot at being there who they'd have no problem drafting at their spot. Call it their target cluster if none of those special players drop to them. Row 3 looks like the group that maybe if they couldn't trade back, would be fine with taking at their spot. Fwtw, Shazier was in the middle of row 2, as was Tuitt (TE, OT3, ILB, CB, DT/NT, DE, and maybe WR3).

From another picture, I know Clowney was listed as an OLB. One of Clowney, Mack, Barr were not in their top 19. Quite a drop between their 2nd OLB and 3rd OLB, 30ish players, from 1st row to 5th. OTs were Robinson, Matthews, Lewan in unknown order. Top 3 OTs are cleared off their board in the b/w when it was their pick.
 
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Wow. Amazing post Dobre. Really puts into perspective who the Steelers considered special. So by your post I guess that the top order are:

__Tier_1______________________
Clowney
Watkins
Robinson
Mack
Matthews
Evans
___Tier_2___________________
Ebron
Lewan
Shazier
Gilbert/Fuller
Donald
Tuitt
Beckham?

Your post also indicates that Shazier was far and away their first choice for ILB.
Wonder who the QB was.
 
De nada. Yeah that would be my guess. Maybe flip the OTs, or not. But, yeah. Possible they liked Barr over Mack, given that UCLA/Spanos connection. But I doubt it. No idea who the QB was. The B/W photo washes out their QBs so I can't tell for sure if the prospects card has been removed or remains. If there's a better shot in the next installments of when they are on the clock, would go a long way towards narrowing that down, maybe others as well.
 
Part 3 is now up.
 
Part 3 really drives the Jarvis drafting point home. Great tape, great character, medical cleared, poor workout. Still drafted.

It also seems to be putting that stupid "run to the podium" criticism to rest - they intimated that from the start of the draft they are keeping their ears to the ground for potential trade scenarios.
 
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Yep 80% is the tape..
 
And there was no hesitation with picking Shazier.
 
Colbert also said, without a 3rd, moving up is virtually impossible.
 
Nice story. It also appears that there was at least one moment of surprise from their reactions when another team was picking.
 
I watched the recap of the draft this year with the three usual talking heads at steelers.com and they generally were rather pleased with all of the picks and two of the free agents that were acquired. Now we all know there is usually a raw raw session after the draft picks but they seemed really surprised with the picks this year. We had are usual gripe session on here about one of them. But these guys seem to have a lot of upside this year instead of so many of them being just guys.

I am not ready to even proclaim definite roster spots for these guys yet but we have had some earth shaking talent finds in the past and one year we picked 4 hall of famers and some other guys that were pretty good as well. It would be nice if this was another of those big grabs as the team is in desperate need of talent.
 
Colbert says it's more like 70 percent:

70% Tape
10% Character
10% Medical
10% Workout

But tape is most important.

No, he said 80-90%, then settled on 80%. Then said character, medical, workout are each 7-10%. Bouchette is his math tutor.

Just watching it now. Audio is choppy for me. Does the guy working the phones say the Dolphins are interested if their target gets thru 1.14? And are offering their 1st plus a 4th and a 7th? I know the trade value chart is outdated and being recalibrated with each successive draft, but that seems lowball. Wouldn't have been the worst thing tho, given the way things unfolded. If Dallas takes Shazier, Martin would make it to that Dolphins spot. With 2 4ths, the Steelers coulda moved back up into the R3 or taken Bradford, Fortt, KP-L or somesuch at ILB. More than likely tho, they take Tuitt at 1.19 and who knows in R2, ILB2 maybe/likely. So, given that, I'm good with staying put.

I can see from that screen shot that the Steelers ILB3 is redflagged. Can't tell if it's for med or character, but guessing med. If so, probably Mosely, and somewhat shocking.

As a refresher, and if you can't make it out from the video, the columns read from left to right: FB, RB, QB, WR, TE, OC, OG, OT, DS (safety), DC (corner), LB (OLB), MLB (ILB), DE, DT (NT), P, K, RS.

Toward the very end of the video, we get a good shot of their board when the Shazier pick is made. Their top DE (Tuitt) is the highest remaining player on their board. I'm guessing they're thrilled to death he made it to R2. Next highest on their board is QB1 and WR4. Interesting that their QB2 is off the board. Can say now that that is Bortles. Dunno who QB1 is tho. And that Watkins, Evans, and Beckham were indeed their top 3 WRs. Just can't say what order. Also interesting that CB2 and CB3 remain. At that point Gilbert and Fuller were gone. That means one of those two is CB1, but neither of those two are CB2 or CB3. CB5, however, is off their board. So one of GIlbert/Fuller is CB1 and whoever is not is CB5. OLB3 is gone also, gotta be Barr.
 
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No, he said 80-90%, then settled on 80%. Then said character, medical, workout are each 7-10%. Bouchette is his math tutor.

Yeah, when I rewatched it I caught the 80. Though I like the idea that the Steelers look for 101 percent from their players!

Just watching it now. Audio is choppy for me. Does the guy working the phones say the Dolphins are interested if their target gets thru 1.14? And are offering their 1st plus a 4th and a 7th? I know the trade value chart is outdated and being recalibrated with each successive draft, but that seems lowball.
I rewound that part 3 times and still couldn't make out what that guy said.
 
I wonder if that was also done intentionally. I am also happy with staying put given the low ball offer. When you start picking up picks in the forth round you are really picking up projects. Had it been their third round pick it may have been worth while as I believe we might have been able to add another good player to the mix like one of the tight ends if my memory is accurate.
 
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