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Steelers trade for DK

With a young OL in place (and I think they draft a guard late to develop behind Seumalo), it was time to get weapons for the next QB. DK is a legit WR1 and he's locked in. Why would I trade Pickens? The Steelers aren't winning the Super Bowl this year and they aren't going to keep Pickens beyond this season either. He's younger and nearly as productive as DK and will probably command less. They may be able to get a 2nd for him, at least a 3rd. Go out and get a dependable WR like Egbuka who will be here for the next 5 years as well and then get a RB in the 2nd or 3rd.
might trade pickens to get draft pick. And also draft egbuka. I dont understand this signing as i thought him and pickens were very similar.

MAYBE we run 2 flys down the side lines and make the dbacks pick which one to cover. You know, leaving the middle open .
 
I thought the steelers would pursue Metcalf during the season. His lowest yardage total in 5 yrs was 900 in 2019. He is more than a one trick pony. Will he be successful here? Who knows. I get the need for a WR, but I'm not sure the money and draft pick make sense.
 
I’m kind of on the fence here with this trade. Hopefully the next week will give some explanation to this deal. Unfortunately I think this trade reeks of Mike Tomlin’s bad philosophy.
1. They draft Harris with their #1 pick without an Oline for him to run behind.
2. They extend Muth and use him as a 6th OLman.
3. Now they trade and spend HUGE money on a WR without a QB to get him the ball.
The only thing that makes sense is that since he will not use the middle of the field anyways you might as well get another outside WR to pair with your 2 blocking TE’s.

They have now committed an ADDITIONAL $33 million a year for 5 years when you need to sign a QB and TJ Watt, who are both going to destroy your ability to sign almost anyone else.

This is AGAIN the Steelers buying those brand new shinny wheels for a car with a blown head gasket.
 
  • DK Metcalf: 22.23 MPH.
  • Chase Brown: 22.05 MPH.
  • Tyreek Hill: 22.01 MPH.
  • Devon Achane: 21.93 MPH.
  • Kavontae Turpin: 21.91 MPH.
  • Derrick Henry: 21.68 MPH.
  • Raheem Mostert: 21.62 MPH.
  • Kenneth Walker III: 21.56 MPH.

But IS D.K. Metcalf Worth The Trouble, Though?​

Posted on October 18, 2024
The argument behind keeping D.K. Metcalf in a Seahawks uniform is that, yeah, we’re all aware of his shortcomings; we see them every single ******* game. He drops balls. He fumbles. He seems to average at least one asinine penalty per game. He runs poor routes. He’s a target of other teams, and can’t keep his emotions in check. And he has the occasional outburst on the sidelines. I would also question whether he’s a good role model for younger receivers on this team, but that’s based on my own biases against diva receivers in general. We take most, if not all, of that for a given, and say, in spite of all of that, D.K. Metcalf is worth the trouble for what he brings to the table. Speed, physical toughness, a big target in the red zone, a guy who can take a play to the house from anywhere on the field.

But, is he actually worth the trouble?

Because what I didn’t get into in that first paragraph is what his contract looks like. He’s a guy earning $24 million per year on average. But, actually, his contract is severely ******, due to salary cap mismanagement. 2025 is technically the final year of his deal, but there are three void years tacked onto it. If he plays it out as is, he will count over $31 million against our cap next year; then, there will be an automatic cap hit of a little over $7 million in 2026 for a guy who might not even be here.

D.K. Metcalf will be 29 in 2026. That’s right on the edge of where you absolutely DON’T want to pay a receiver a ****-ton of money. What are the top guys making now? $30 mil per season? D.K. Metcalf is pretty ******* far from the top guys (I’m talking Justin Jefferson, Ja’Marr Chase, Tyreek Hill, and the like), yet you know he’s going to want to be paid like one. And he’s probably going to want that new deal BEFORE the 2025 season starts, lest he hold out like every other overpaid crybaby NFL player.

Look, it’s a rarity when we get through an entire game without a soul-crushing D.K. Metcalf negative. That’s just a fact. We’re always looking back – even in his GOOD games – and saying, “Well, it could’ve been great if his holding penalty didn’t call back a big play.” Or if he didn’t drop a would-be third down conversion. Or if he could just get two ******* feet down in bounds the way even a mediocre NFL receiver can. The games where we can say D.K. was clean are in the vast minority. And this is a guy you want to pay $30+ million and keep into his early 30s?

I don’t think he’s even remotely worth it. I think he’s right now in the prime of his career; at some point (probably soon), he’s going to be on the downside. Even at his very best, when his athletic talents are at their peak, and his football knowledge is higher than it’s ever been, he’s still barely a net positive (and, sometimes, especially against good teams, he’s an actual net negative). It’s one thing to get a great D.K. game against the Panthers or some ****; but, when has he ever shown up against the Rams or 49ers? I would argue not very often, if ever.

I also wonder how this offense would look if the quarterback didn’t feel compelled to throw it to D.K. 12 times a game. What happens if JSN is this team’s #1 receiver? Is he able to blossom into the #1 wide receiver he was drafted to be? Because as it is, I feel JSN’s growth is being stunted by this giant redwood he was planted next to, soaking up all the rain and sun, leaving very little left over for the talented second-year player.

Just, you know, personally, from a pure fan perspective, I’m exhausted with D.K. I tend to gravitate towards ******* players. I loved Richard Sherman. I still have a soft spot for Earl Thomas, even though he seems to be persona non grata due to his off-the-field antics. I’m almost always the guy who says, “Yeah, he’s an *******, but he’s OUR *******.”

But, there’s nothing I enjoy about D.K.’s assholery. If he acts up too flamboyantly, he will have a flag thrown on him. If he blocks someone too aggressively, he’ll probably be called for holding or unnecessary roughness. If he speaks up in any way, he’s got an entire defense trying to goad him into doing something stupid for a personal foul penalty, because he’s too stupid to understand the limits of what he can say or do on a football field after 5+ seasons in the league. And sure, it’s fun to watch him run over and through smaller defenders, but I’m always doing it with one eye closed out of fear that he’s going to have the ball punched out of his hands as he tries to gain an extra foot or two of field position. The greatest highs are regularly taken away from us thanks to one D.K. blunder or another, and frankly it makes me sick to my stomach. I’m in constant fear of another fumble or another flag.

D.K. Metcalf has long been this team’s best and most talented receiver. But, we don’t get to enjoy him the way other fanbases get to enjoy their team’s top receivers. We have to sit here and hope he doesn’t embarrass us, game-in and game-out. I’m over it.

If the Seahawks aren’t able to trade him now, in the middle of this season, then I think they have to strongly consider doing it after the year is over. Get what you can for him, take the cap hit in 2025, and put our future savings to better use along the offensive and/or defensive lines. Ideally, you trade him now, send him to Dallas where he belongs, and fleece an old man for some quality draft capital.
 
Deebo has also been injured a lot lately, was over weight, is two years older, and hasn't even sniffed that kind of production in any other year but that one, his one and only 1,000 yard season.

DK, as mentioned is two years younger, has gone over 1000 yards 3 times, and was only 8 yards away from it last year while missing two games.

One is a legit WR1, and for sure a WR2. The other isn't even a WR2, he's a gadget guy that can't stay healthy enough to warrant building an offensive gamelan around his versatility.
Spot on. Plus DK is a good blocker. Something Smith likes in his system. For me DK is the better receiver and his healthier and faster and bigger. A matchup problem for corners.

They weren’t guaranteed to find a number 1 type WR in 2 or 3, what DK is. Which is what I think they were leaning towards. Say they get froggy and recoup their draft capital. I think the possibility of finding a number 2 receiver is better.

By no means does the move mean anything past upgrading the position. But it does do that soundly.
 
Thought I would post that article from above. I’ve watched a ton of Seahawk games and have seen Metcalf’s career. That above article is indicative of how he plays from a true fans perspective that watches every play every game. Just like many of us do with our Dear Steelers. Re post #130.

My 2 cents on this trade. We needed a #1 WR. We went out and got one. We’ve all been complaining about them sitting on their hands since this time of last season. . It would be hypocritical of me to be 100% against this trade. He has great moments,but is far from perfect. Not a great route runner,but great downfield long ball speed. Physical….big catching zone. We better be throwing him fades inside the 10. He loses his temper and takes stupid penalties. A lot. He does play with passion. He drops passes. Like most WR’s He gets vocal about lack of passes thrown his way. I’m hoping a change of scenery and a 30 million a year commitment helps him focus into a top 3 WR in the league. Welcome to the Steelers DJ!

Now all this being said….last season I was against sending a high draft pick for Aiyuk. My reasoning then…as now is because i thought we needed our QB situation settled. Surely they must have a plan before signing a WR to 30+ million a year? I really hope that doesn’t mean Russ Wilson coming back to throw moon-ball after moon ball 10 yards short. Unfortunately the QB pickings are slim. I still believe these positions have to be drafted with that all important 4-5 year rookie contract. And trading an all important 2nd round pick cuts our options. Free Agency opening up shall be interesting.
 
Deebo has also been injured a lot lately, was over weight, is two years older, and hasn't even sniffed that kind of production in any other year but that one, his one and only 1,000 yard season.

DK, as mentioned is two years younger, has gone over 1000 yards 3 times, and was only 8 yards away from it last year while missing two games.

One is a legit WR1, and for sure a WR2. The other isn't even a WR2, he's a gadget guy that can't stay healthy enough to warrant building an offensive gamelan around his versatility.
In a passing league he has only gone over 1000 yards 3 times in 6 seasons. last season with the added game(missed 2 games via injury) he still couldn't pass the 1000 yard mark. All in a pass-first league. Then pay him an avg of $30 mill per year for the next 5 years. Isn't that actually bad? Using the same metric everyone uses on Harris that is.
 
In a passing league he has only gone over 1000 yards 3 times in 6 seasons. last season with the added game(missed 2 games via injury) he still couldn't pass the 1000 yard mark. All in a pass-first league. Then pay him an avg of $30 mill per year for the next 5 years. Isn't that actually bad? Using the same metric everyone uses on Harris that is.

Nope it's not bad, because you're about to see what the top WR market is going to be set at when Chase signs his new deal. Higgins has been franchised two times in a row because they can't get to a number that he wants, and he's a number 2. The Bengals were actually smart to tag Higgins BEFORE they gave Chase the new deal, because that would have just made the tag that much more expensive. Right now, Higgins is slated to make $26.1m for one year. Aiyuk got 4 years $120 million. The Bengals have already committed to making Chase the highest paid non QB in NFL history, and Garrett just set that mark at 40m per. The cap has made two rather large jumps the last two years, these contracts are doing the same.

Just a few years ago, everyone was on the Browns for giving Watson that fully guaranteed 230m contract, which at the time was crazy. Josh Allen just singed a 6 year, 330m contract with 250m in guarantees. And that puts him FIFTH in average per year earnings for QB's. FIFTH!!!

FYI...I'm also not one to use that metric as a negative on Najee, if it was such a negative, there would be more RB's doing it more often...and yet behind a ****** OL and predictable play calling, Najee has 1000 yards in four straight years.
 
Nope it's not bad, because you're about to see what the top WR market is going to be set at when Chase signs his new deal. Higgins has been franchised two times in a row because they can't get to a number that he wants, and he's a number 2. The Bengals were actually smart to tag Higgins BEFORE they gave Chase the new deal, because that would have just made the tag that much more expensive. Right now, Higgins is slated to make $26.1m for one year. Aiyuk got 4 years $120 million. The Bengals have already committed to making Chase the highest paid non QB in NFL history, and Garrett just set that mark at 40m per. The cap has made two rather large jumps the last two years, these contracts are doing the same.

Just a few years ago, everyone was on the Browns for giving Watson that fully guaranteed 230m contract, which at the time was crazy. Josh Allen just singed a 6 year, 330m contract with 250m in guarantees. And that puts him FIFTH in average per year earnings for QB's. FIFTH!!!

FYI...I'm also not one to use that metric as a negative on Najee, if it was such a negative, there would be more RB's doing it more often...and yet behind a ****** OL and predictable play calling, Najee has 1000 yards in four straight years.
To bad we didn't extend Watt last offseason in hindsight.
 
This trade makes the Steelers leaps and bounds better than they were last year and this was better than any move they could have made in free agency or the draft. Period.

And fir people worried about the contract, we have money that frees up in 2026 as Minkah Fitzpatricks contact comes off the books. They also are hardly spending on the offense today. There are four starters along the offensive line in rookie deals. And from a qb perspective they are likely to have a rookie qb deal for the starter at qb.

I'd argue that I'm more comfortable giving DK 30 million per year than TJ Watt 40 million per year.
 
was just reading that DK was interested in warm weather cities with a shot at the title

then this was posted
Realistically it doesn't get very cold here until January and February and he won't have to worry about playing then. :D

This move reeks of desperation to get to that precious 9 wins.
 
might trade pickens to get draft pick. And also draft egbuka. I dont understand this signing as i thought him and pickens were very similar.

MAYBE we run 2 flys down the side lines and make the dbacks pick which one to cover. You know, leaving the middle open .

Trade Muth
All the offense is outside the hash
Whichever side isn’t double teamed chuck it
The new offense

No need for Muth when the middle of the field is lava
 
To bad we didn't extend Watt last offseason in hindsight.
Of course everything is better in hindsight, but the "steelers way" of not negotiating contracts with more than one year left on the deal is gonna cost them a lot this year. And that is if they can even get a deal done. I know Watt has stated that he doesn't want to play anywhere else, but... I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Remember how long the last negotiation with him took.
 
At the least it will make it enticing for a QB to sign for the Steelers. Both starting WRs are open if on one on one coverage, plus the running game is getting an extra blocker too but unlike with Van Jefferson and skowronek and Boykin, Ds have to worry about that blocker in the passing game.
 
This trade makes the Steelers leaps and bounds better than they were last year and this was better than any move they could have made in free agency or the draft. Period.

And fir people worried about the contract, we have money that frees up in 2026 as Minkah Fitzpatricks contact comes off the books. They also are hardly spending on the offense today. There are four starters along the offensive line in rookie deals. And from a qb perspective they are likely to have a rookie qb deal for the starter at qb.

I'd argue that I'm more comfortable giving DK 30 million per year than TJ Watt 40 million per year.

One could easily argue having someone to throw the ball would be required to make the team “leaps and bounds better than last year”

As they currently stand they are worse, but that could change.

Hopefully they actually have a well thought out strategy attacking free agency moves. That is a huge leap faith hoping in that though.

Unless they have a guy that can get him the ball the move is pointless and very poorly spent money.
 
I suspect we are going to see a LOT of go patterns by both the X and Y, middle of the field basically uncovered, and a boatload of deep passes outside the hashes to guys well-covered while 2 guys are wide open in the middle of the field forlornly waving their hands indicating, "I'm open! I'm open!"
 
One could easily argue having someone to throw the ball would be required to make the team “leaps and bounds better than last year”

As they currently stand they are worse, but that could change.

Hopefully they actually have a well thought out strategy attacking free agency moves. That is a huge leap faith hoping in that though.

Unless they have a guy that can get him the ball the move is pointless and very poorly spent money.
One could argue that with the coaching staff the Steelers currently have in place it doesn't matter who the WR's or QB's are. We've seen that over the last 10 years or so.
 
This trade would make sense if we could get a #1 for Pickens and grab Golden or Egbuka…

Hate losing the 2 for a second Pickens…
 
Just hopping on here since the DK move was made yesterday. Very interesting move. It sure would be nice to watch a capable QB throwing to DK and GP but the Steelers have screwed that pooch royally. I keep hearing more about Rodgers which would be the absolute worst move. I mean, you sign the 41+ year old Rodgers, then what's your plan? Are you going to use your 1st round pick to select the best QB left in the draft to that point? At this point, I'd be ecstatic with either Fields or Wilson. Wilson is a spring chicken compared to Rodgers. And, is this the end of GP on the Steelers? I can't see them giving $30 million+ per to two WR's especially with no real plan moving forward at QB. Ballsy move. We will see how this plays out today.
 
This trade would make sense if we could get a #1 for Pickens and grab Golden or Egbuka…

Hate losing the 2 for a second Pickens…
I hear you but DK can play in the slot as well. He is not a one trick pony any more. But, imagine having that speed on the field. DK, Austin, and Roman are all 4.4 guys or better and GP ran a 4.47. We just need a QB to throw them the ball and the coach to let him audible and throw down the middle.
 
Just hopping on here since the DK move was made yesterday. Very interesting move. It sure would be nice to watch a capable QB throwing to DK and GP but the Steelers have screwed that pooch royally. I keep hearing more about Rodgers which would be the absolute worst move. I mean, you sign the 41+ year old Rodgers, then what's your plan? Are you going to use your 1st round pick to select the best QB left in the draft to that point? At this point, I'd be ecstatic with either Fields or Wilson. Wilson is a spring chicken compared to Rodgers. And, is this the end of GP on the Steelers? I can't see them giving $30 million+ per to two WR's especially with no real plan moving forward at QB. Ballsy move. We will see how this plays out today.
I wouldn't be surprised if they move on from Pickens this offseason, there's no way they're going to pay GP now too, and how's he going to act not being the #1 guy now. He and DK are very similar in their skill set as well, but I guess all of it is for not if they don't get someone in here that can throw the ball to them. Arthur Smith always uses the TE as WR2 so, I just can't see them keeping the headache that is Pickens. DK just said he wants to go to a warm place, with a stable QB position, and a contender, so who knows if he'll be all in here as well once he sees this **** show of an offensive system.
 
I hear you but DK can play in the slot as well. He is not a one trick pony any more. But, imagine having that speed on the field. DK, Austin, and Roman are all 4.4 guys or better and GP ran a 4.47. We just need a QB to throw them the ball and the coach to let him audible and throw down the middle.
5 wide Bittches!!!
 
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