Unless your up against an Elite star DB. The back shoulder throw or jump ball can work wonders on most DB's. They may have the speed, but awareness { looking back for the ball } isn't the best. Ben used the back shoulder throw with a lot of success, and was good at it. As you said, some things have changed over the years.Yeah likely a combination but I've yet to see the route be an all out lay out pass its jump ball. Which is really about modern DB techniques where they rarely look for ball.