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Seems Biden is trying to blame the intelligence community. Give it a few days and the media will have this as Trump's fault.
The same one he trusted when they said the Russians helped Trump.
 
As an American, I feel pretty ****** about what's happening. Maybe it was inevitable, but at the very least you think we would have learned to get everyone out before tucking tail.
 
Seems Biden is trying to blame the intelligence community. Give it a few days and the media will have this as Trump's fault.
Military-industrial complex needs to keep wars going in order to make money. Both parties are on the take.
 
This should tie nicely with the free flowing boarder he has.
 
Give it a few days and the media will have this as Trump's fault.

The *media* will have this as Trump's fault?

Let's look at the facts.

In 2018, Trump arranged for the release of terrorists from prison in exchange for a 3(!) month ceasefire. One of those prisoners was Taliban co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar who will be the new head of Afghanistan under Taliban rule. He sold out Afghanistan to the Taliban & invited the Taliban to Camp David.

Look it up and check the historical record.
 
Seems Biden is trying to blame the intelligence community. Give it a few days and the media will have this as Trump's fault.
They already are. Blinken was on meet the press blaming Trump. He's not totally wrong, but this isn't *just* Trump's fault. There is a lot of blame to go around, from the Bush administration right through Biden.
 
From George W, to Obama, Trump & Biden, they all share some responsibility here.

As far as the current situation, Biden owns this, he's in charge now. The execution of the agreement he inherited from Trump for withdrawal from Afghanistan has been awful. Not securing the safety of Afghans who helped America may come back to haunt us. The disorderly, chaotic drawdown in Kabul is a hot mess & an embarrassment for the State Dept. and the US Military.

As far as Trump's role in this, it's significant. He cozied up to the Taliban and made a really bizarre decision to have the US lift up & legitimize them.

From Ana Navarro.

Here is Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, meeting with Mullah Abdul Ghanu Baradar - the co-founder of the Taliban who has taken over Kabul - on November 21, 2020, after the Trump administration helped to secure his release from prison. Troop withdrawal and “negotiations” with Taliban happened under Trump. Trump’s timeline for complete withdrawal was May, 1st. I don’t remember much GOP outrage then…

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****** A. It's not just Americans and Westerners trying to desperately flee Kabul, but the Afghans themselves. This could get ugly in a hurry.


 
Just heard that US has suspended evacuations from Kabul. Too many Afghani's on the runway.

 
That video in the link is wild. People climbing on the side of moving aircraft. **** is nuts.
 
When I thought sleepy couldn’t **** up more, he is always there for a good surprise.
 
That video in the link is wild. People climbing on the side of moving aircraft. **** is nuts.
Apparently they don’t want to fight for their country and just have us do it instead. What happened to all that “training” and Afghanis on the payroll?
 
Dumbass ******* meme

That is completely disingenuous and moronic. Can't believe you would post something that utterly stupid. At least *some* people here understand who embraced the Taliban, who let their leaders out of prison and who negotiated this current exit from Afghanistan. It certainly wasn't Joe Biden.

Instead of falling for these purely partisan fallacies, why not take a little time to understand what is actually happening? Try it on for size, you might like it.
 


Probably the shittiest exit strategy ever done.Imposter in chief. It fits this ******* brain dead stupid ******* moron.


Not only did we just arm and equip them all to the teeth, we let thousands of terrorists in prison to be left free.


Then we abandon all of the people who have been helping us for 20 years.


No wonder they wanted to get the **** out of dodge. They're going to have their heads cut off.


Regardless that we should have left long long ago after Osama got killed, you can't just bail on people who trusted you.


All we did is create more hatred and resentment for us and got thousands of our soldiers killed or all ****** up for what?

To let them all go.

Going to be a whole **** ton of people really,really furious and insulted over this .
 
If the Afghans are not willing to fight for their country, then why should we? So many parallels between Vietnam. We should have learned from that war, and the Soviet occupation. Our nation building record sucks, and we should abandon that way of thinking.
 
If the Afghans are not willing to fight for their country, then why should we? So many parallels between Vietnam. We should have learned from that war, and the Soviet occupation. Our nation building record sucks, and we should abandon that way of thinking.
Again, the nation building that the US did in Japan and Germany, with massive military bases still in country, was what brought the globe the peace dividend felt over the past 70+ years.

The difference between Japan/Germany and Korea/Vietnam/Iran/Desert Storm/Afghanistan?

In my opinion, US politicians did not permit the US military to complete the necessary tasks to properly begin new administrations. Weak kneed politicians, poor media and a fearful population at home all combined to take the spine away from the military.
 
Probably the shittiest exit strategy ever done.Imposter in chief. It fits this ******* brain dead stupid ******* moron.


Not only did we just arm and equip them all to the teeth, we let thousands of terrorists in prison to be left free.


Then we abandon all of the people who have been helping us for 20 years.


No wonder they wanted to get the **** out of dodge. They're going to have their heads cut off.


Regardless that we should have left long long ago after Osama got killed, you can't just bail on people who trusted you.


All we did is create more hatred and resentment for us and got thousands of our soldiers killed or all ****** up for what?

To let them all go.

Going to be a whole **** ton of people really,really furious and insulted over this .

Agree 100%. Glad you've come around and finally see the light how ****** up Trump's Afghan policy was, 1. bedding down with the Taliban, 2. releasing their leaders from prison, 3. legitimizing them via meeting with Pompeo, and 4. negotiating this exit, all done in 2020 before leaving office.

Joe Biden can be blamed for carrying through with Trump's policy, or at least not having the sense to take a long, hard look at it like he's doing now, meeting with military brass at Camp David. Clearly, adjustments and further planning was sorely needed.
 
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