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Tariffs

SCSteeler4life said:
Where are all of the posters that said Trump didn't now what he was doing, it was going to doom our economy. Once again Trump was correct and you were wrong. Damn TDS is a terrible thing.
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Think it was just a few that was very load
 
interesting experiment:
add tarrifs = extra costs for consumers & business

prices all higher, but fire folks who count those stats

give $2,000 bonus free cash

along with

extract new trade deals and American investment/jobs.

Not sure net/net that this isn't about the same as the normal tax all, give money back, provide investment incentive (usually tax breaks), with a different political wrap.

Lather, rinse, repeat.
 
Confluence said:
But if Trump removes the coffee tariffs, the American coffee growers will suffer
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Also I’m sure the Florida and California Orange farmers and the Hawaiian pineapples market are thrilled to pieces he has taken off those tariffs allowing duty free. I’m sure the beef industry is as well. What a load of ****.
 
Steelmann said:
Also I’m sure the Florida and California Orange farmers and the Hawaiian pineapples market are thrilled to pieces he has taken off those tariffs allowing duty free. I’m sure the beef industry is as well. What a load of ****.
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Lol.
I don't think there are any American coffee growers, but lots of American coffee consumers, so this was just an additional cost for people....for what reason?

4D chess to bend over the Ecuadorian coffee Empire?

Now, with supply chains interrupted, relationships between importers/exporters strained, and American consumers paying more, what was the point?

Will select other commodities be exempted next week? Blueberries, dates and cobalt?

Was it Trump or his expert team that capitulated to the needs of American consumers? Now that they have identified the worst tariffs, will they move down the list to the almost as dumb tariffs?
 
Confluence said:
Lol.
I don't think there are any American coffee growers, but lots of American coffee consumers, so this was just an additional cost for people....for what reason?

4D chess to bend over the Ecuadorian coffee Empire?
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I will admit to being one of those American coffee consumers and that the price of coffee has indeed gone up, but it hasn't affected me at all.
For one thing, I've never stepped inside a Starbucks, and secondly, if you wait for the grocery stores to put coffee on sale, it's literally the same price pre-tariffs.
 
ZonaBurgh said:
I will admit to being one of those American coffee consumers and that the price of coffee has indeed gone up, but it hasn't affected me at all.
For one thing, I've never stepped inside a Starbucks, and secondly, if you wait for the grocery stores to put coffee on sale, it's literally the same price pre-tariffs.
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Yep.

But what was the point of the coffee tariff then? It seems to have been just to annoy consumers with a hidden tax on consumption, you know, for a while.

When coffee import prices drop, will the grocery pass along those cost savings? Probably not, because their suite of food offerings has had many costs increased, and so reducing a few costs, like coffe, will just help their bottom line.

I do not understand how the consumer is not the loser here.
 
Confluence said:
Lol.
I don't think there are any American coffee growers, but lots of American coffee consumers, so this was just an additional cost for people....for what reason?

4D chess to bend over the Ecuadorian coffee Empire?

Now, with supply chains interrupted, relationships between importers/exporters strained, and American consumers paying more, what was the point?

Will select other commodities be exempted next week? Blueberries, dates and cobalt?

Was it Trump or his expert team that capitulated to the needs of American consumers? Now that they have identified the worst tariffs, will they move down the list to the almost as dumb tariffs?
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And his disciples follow him around blindly without a peep. Remember when he came out with his little placard with all those percentages that were absolutely made up bs. Good lord.
 
Troglodyte said:
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O’Leary has a base?
I found that comment strange..
Not everything that everybody does, that people on the left do not agree with, is a right wing conservative ploy.
Successful people like O’Leary do have very strong, calculating minds and personal opinions, that have made them successful in life.
Not everything is politically motivated.
 
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Confluence said:
But what was the point of the coffee tariff then? It seems to have been just to annoy consumers with a hidden tax on consumption, you know, for a while.
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There are MANY aspects to the tariff issue.
In THIS CASE, the tariff was/is being used to modify a behavior from the country/industry being targeted. Since there is really not an American coffee growing industry, it really isn’t being used in the protectionist sense. Consumers can CHOOSE if they are willing to pay the tariff or not.
Confluence said:
When coffee import prices drop, will the grocery pass along those cost savings? Probably not, because their suite of food offerings has had many costs increased, and so reducing a few costs, like coffe, will just help their bottom line.
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This has ALWAYS been the case in free markets. Increases are always passed on immediately, then kept in place as long as they can get away with them.
Confluence said:
I do not understand how the consumer is not the loser here.
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This seems to be the viewpoint from someone addicted to coffee products. This particular tariff is 100% voluntary.
 
Steelmann said:
And his disciples follow him around blindly without a peep. Remember when he came out with his little placard with all those percentages that were absolutely made up bs. Good lord.
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Politicians ALWAY lie, misconstrue and just plain make shyte up. Why people give any credence to what they say, simply amazes me. While Trump is not a politician in the true sense, he does think he is the smartest person in the room at all times and uses very similar tactics because he is working the same groups of idiots.

The biggest difference is though, Trump says AND DOES things, politicians do nothing except talk.
 
Democrats:
Tariffs bad.
Higher taxes on corporations good.

Consumers:
Things cost more either way.
 
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