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Terror attack in Brussels

How to Defeat Radical Jihadism

In striking at the political heart of Europe, home of the European Union, the ISIS jihadists were delivering a message: They will not be stopped.

What we are seeing now is not radical jihadist Islam versus the West but, increasingly, radical jihadist Islam versus the world. They are on the move in Africa, parts of Asia and of course throughout the Mideast.

Radical jihadism is not going to go away, not for a long time, probably decades. For 15 years it has in significant ways shaped our lives, and it will shape our children’s too. They will have to win the war.

It will not be effectively fought with guilt, ambivalence or double-mindedness. That, in the West, will have to change.

The jihadists’ weapons and means will get worse. Right now it’s guns and suicide vests. In the nature of things their future weapons will be more sophisticated and deadly.

The usual glib talk of politicians—calls for unity, vows that we will not give in to fear—will produce in the future what they’ve produced in the past: nothing.

“The thoughts and the prayers of the American people are with the people of Belgium,” said the president, vigorously refusing to dodge clichés. “We must unite and be together, regardless of nationality, race or faith, in fighting against the scourge of terrorism.” It is not an “existential threat,” he noted, as he does. But if you were at San Bernardino or Fort Hood, the Paris concert hall or the Brussels subway, it would feel pretty existential to you.

We must absorb that central fact, as Ronald Reagan once did with a different threat. Asked by his new national security adviser to state his exact strategic goals vis-à-vis the Soviet Union, Reagan: “We win, they lose.”

That’s where we are now. The “they” is radical Islamic jihadism.

Normal people have seen that a long time, but the leaders of the West—its political class, media powers and opinion shapers—have had a hard time coming to terms. I continue to believe part of the reason is that religion isn’t very important to many of them, so they have trouble taking it seriously as a motivation of others.

An ardent Catholic, evangelical Christian or devout Jew would be able to take the religious aspect seriously when discussing ISIS. An essentially agnostic U.S. or European political class is less able. Thus they cast about—if only we give young Islamist men jobs programs or social integration schemes, we can stop this trouble. But jihadists don’t want to be integrated. They want trouble.

Our own president still won’t call radical Islam what it is, thinking apparently that if we name them clearly they’ll only hate us more, and Americans on the ground, being racist ignoramuses, will be incited by candor to attack their peaceful Muslim neighbors.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-to-defeat-radical-jihadism-1458862004
 
I'm going to say this, and then I'm out of this thread.

Keep doing it. Keep hating Muslims. Keep killing Muslims. Keeps supporting Israeli Apartheid. Keep supporting the oppressive Islamic regime in Saudi Arabia.

Keep being violent and keep being haters. 30 years from now, **** will still be blowing up and nothing will change.

You hate them and they hate you. Congratulations. You have an endless cycle of violence and hate which you are gleefully perpetuating.

"But we gotta teach them a lesson. If only we could carpet bomb and torture, THAT would teach 'em!" Right. The Israelis have been doing exactly that for 70 years now. Leveling entire neighborhoods, torturing the hell out of "terror suspects". Guess where it's gotten them? An endless cycle of violence.

So go ahead. Keep trying to kill and hate your way out of this problem. Your grand kids will still be fighting it.

Blame da JOOOOOOS!

I would rather my Grandkids fight than be Dhimmis. I would like to think there is enough metal left in the children of America that they would rather die on their feet than live on their knees.
 
RIP

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The siblings were in the Delta ticket line at the Brussels Airport to check in for their flight to New York. Alexander was talking to his mother on the phone when the line went dead.

Nearly three agonizing days later, word came from Belgian authorities at Astrid Hospital in Brussels. It was a list of the remaining victims who were still alive.

“Sadly, our beloved Alexander and Sascha were not among them,” the family said in a statement. “We ask for continued prayers and privacy during this time of grieving as we await final closure.”

http://ktla.com/2016/03/25/2-americans-among-those-killed-in-brussels-terror-attacks/
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...go-comes-reading-public-mood-s-tone-deaf.html

Twinkle-toes Obama might be a demon at the tango but when it comes to reading the public mood he’s tone-deaf

By Piers Morgan for MailOnline

Published: 10:53 EST, 24 March 2016 | Updated: 15:02 EST, 24 March 2016

What the hell is wrong with Barack Obama?

Why does he not seem to have a clue how to behave when major atrocities happen around the world?

The ISIS terror attacks on Brussels were Belgium’s 9/11.

Belgium is a long-time loyal U.S. ally and fellow member of NATO.

Obama, in his capacity as President of the United States, is supposed to be ‘leader of the free world’ and therefore, de facto, leader of NATO.

That alone should have demanded he immediately abandon his jolly in Cuba, where he is cosying up to a dictatorship, and return to Washington to lead the global response with a powerful statement from the Oval Office.

Particularly as up to a dozen Americans were wounded in Brussels, and for all he knew, possibly dead. One U.S. couple is still missing and unaccounted for.

But Obama had other ideas.

He stayed in Cuba, made a cursory 1-minute statement about the Brussels bombings, then went to the baseball at Havana’s Latinoamericano stadium.

Even more extraordinarily, once he was there he allowed himself to be filmed laughing and joking with Raul Castro, the pair of them raising their arms in a joyful crowd wave.

This, surely, was outrageously insensitive to the grieving people of Belgium, not to mention the families of those wounded and missing Americans?

As former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani put it: ‘You don’t send a picture of yourself laughing while people have just been blown up at a level that is the equivalent of September 11 to one of our allies.’

When asked what difference it would have made if Obama had cancelled his South American tour, Giuliani explained: ‘The difference is that it would have made people feel that he’s a leader, that he’s in charge. This would be like Franklin Roosevelt remaining at Warm Springs when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour.’

Exactly.

‘It’s very important not to respond with fear,’ Obama blustered, trying to explain his bizarre behaviour as fury erupted.

Yes, Mr President.

But it’s even more important for the most powerful man in the world to show some damn respect.

Just imagine what Americans would have thought if within hours of 9/11, the then British Prime Minister Tony Blair had gone to a football match and been seen giggling and clowning around with some dodgy communist despot.

All hell would have broken loose, and rightly so.

It’s also vital in this situation for a U.S. president to let the perpetrators of such evil know America means business when it, or one of its allies, is attacked.

Yesterday, Obama merely reiterated that his strategy to defeat ISIS remains airstrikes, intelligence and arrests. Tactics which have so far proved singularly unsuccessful in stopping them.

Retired 4-star general and former Director of National Security, Michael Hayden condemned Obama’s plan as ‘under-resourced and over-regulated.’

‘The United States is dropping 20 bombs a day on ISIS,’ he said, ‘that is not a relentless campaign.’

As with so much of Obama’s foreign policy, it smacks of his infamous reputation for ‘leading from behind’.

Obama insisted yesterday that getting on with normal life is the best answer to terrorism. He said, ‘a lot of it is also going to be to say: You do not have power over us. We are strong, our values are right. You offer nothing, except death.’

Wow. I bet those murderous medieval monsters are trembling in their suicide bomber vests at those stirring words, Mr Obama!

Not.

The truth is that ISIS increasingly DOES have power over us because its own ultra-violent campaign has made many people now deeply fearful of going about their normal lives in the way Obama suggests.

What I suspect the terrorists are really thinking is that if the U.S. president is so relaxed about them blowing up Brussels that he can go to watch baseball immediately afterwards, then they have nothing to worry about and can continue, with impunity, committing massacres on people also ‘going about their normal lives’.

I am reminded of Obama’s reaction when ISIS beheaded American journalist James Foley.

He made a quick speech saying how dreadful it all was, then, just seven minutes later, he was filmed teeing off on the golf course and laughing with some mates.

That was a disgrace, and so is this.

By stark contrast, France’s Prime Minister, Manuel Valls, declared; ‘We are at war. We have been subjected for the last few months in Europe to acts of war.’

Absolutely right.

It IS war, a particularly evil war being waged directly at innocent civilians and it’s a war that we are currently losing.

Paris was hit hard twice within a few months, in concert halls, restaurants and football stadiums.

After the first attack, at the offices of the Charlie Hebdo cartoon, the world’s leaders gathered together in Paris to march in solidarity.

All except President Obama, who stayed at home and watched TV.

It looked terrible, like he didn’t care.

And to be harshly frank, I don’t think he did much.

The president has always seemed disturbingly detached from the true scale of the threat which ISIS poses to the world, quietly believing it to be ‘not America’s problem’.

From the early days of the terror group’s surging growth, he dismissed them as a bunch of amateurs.

Specifically, he said this days after ISIS overtook the Iraq city of Fallujah in January 2014: ‘The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think it’s accurate, is if a jayvee (junior varsity) team puts on Lakers uniforms, that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant.’

That shocking complacency means that his administration has never really had a proper plan for destroying ISIS.

I genuinely think Obama hoped and assumed they’d just gradually wither and disintegrate.

Instead, they’ve grown steadily stronger, richer, deadlier and more popular to recruitment from disenfranchised, poor, angry young Muslims.

And a major part of their ability to do this has been America’s refusal to properly engage with them.

When a head teacher lets unruly kids run amok in a school, they get emboldened to behave even worse and get others to join them. With great power comes great responsibility and I think this president is failing us all when it comes to the so-called Islamic State.

Last night, to compound his ineptitude, Obama was seen awkwardly strutting the Tango in Buenos Aires with some hot female Argentinian dancer. He even looked like he’d been having lessons, so laboured and precise were his deliberate moves.

One again, the optics were appalling.

What kind of message does this send to ISIS, other than this outgoing U.S. President is now so demob happy that he’s got time to practice and perform the Tango as they wreak their hideous acts of violence?

It’s pretty obvious that Obama’s now mentally checked out. He clearly just wants to stick any big problems in the next president’s in-tray and focus instead on how history will now record his own legacy.

From a very selfish personal standpoint, Obama knows that ending the cold war with Cuba is a more easily achievable tick on his CV then trying to defeat a very formidable terror group which can’t be beaten in his tenure.

Rudy Giuliani, in his passionate attack on the president, said the attacks in Brussels, a NATO ally, were ‘just like an attack on us.’

Yes they were.

And history will now forever remember that when Belgium was knocked to its knees, Barack Obama went to a ball game and danced the Tango.

Shame on you, Mr President.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ng-public-mood-s-tone-deaf.html#ixzz43vW4CtAW
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Peggy's always spot on. She nails it here in that article:

But this is a tense, fraught moment within the world of Islam, marked by disagreements on what Islam is and what its texts mean. With that context, the child’s math: Let’s say only 10% of the 1.6 billion harbor feelings of grievance toward “the West,” or desire to expunge the infidel, or hope to re-establish the caliphate. That 10% is 160 million people. Let’s say of that group only 10% would be inclined toward jihad. That’s 16 million. Assume that of that group only 10% really means it—would really become jihadis or give them aid and sustenance. That’s 1.6 million. That is a lot of ferociousness in an age of increasingly available weapons, including the chemical, biological and nuclear sort.

My math tells me it will be a long, hard fight. We will not be able to contain them, we will have to beat them.
 
yep - she nailed it

The usual glib talk of politicians—calls for unity, vows that we will not give in to fear—will produce in the future what they’ve produced in the past: nothing.

“We win, they lose.” That’s where we are now. The “they” is radical Islamic jihadism.
 
your words scare and frighten me, Tim.
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ahhhh. better.
 
They tell us it's the religion of peace. I say prove it. When troops come into the neighborhood asking where the suspects live, don't shrug and say "i don't know ". Instead point him out and say "there's the goat ****** over there!".

Until that happens, then sorry but you have to suffer guilt by association because I don't want to die over political correctness.
 
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U.S. Attack Kills a Top ISIS Leader in Syria, Pentagon Says
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/26/w...n-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

WASHINGTON — The United States this week killed a top Islamic State commander in Syria as part of a spate of military actions targeting the terrorist group’s leadership and explosives caches, Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter said on Friday.

The killing of a top commander, Abd al-Rahman Mustafa al-Qaduli, who is also known by other names, comes as the United States is having increased success targeting the Islamic State’s leadership. Last week, Defense Department officials concluded that American strikes had killed the group’s minister of war, Omar al-Shishani.

“We are systematically eliminating ISIL’s cabinet,” Mr. Carter said at a news conference, using an acronym for the group.

But he made clear that the challenge was not that simple.

“Striking leadership is necessary,” he said, “but as you know it’s far from sufficient. As you know leaders can be replaced. These leaders have been around for a long time — they are senior and experienced and eliminating them is an important objective and result. They will be replaced and we will continue to go after their leadership.”

This is not the first time Mr. Qaduli is reported to have been killed. In May 2015, Iraq’s Ministry of Defense said that he had been killed by American airstrikes near the northern city of Tal Afar. The Defense Ministry said in a statement at the time that “based on accurate intelligence,” Mr. Afari and several other leaders gathered in a mosque had been killed. American military officials said then that they could not verify those claims.

Mr. Carter said Mr. Qaduli was the Islamic States’s finance minister and was responsible for planning some of its attacks abroad. Mr. Carter said he did not know whether he had played a role in the bombings this week in Brussels.

“The removal of this ISIL leader will hamper the organization’s ability for them to conduct operations both inside and outside of Iraq and Syria,” he said.

The military also targeted a senior Islamic State leader known as Abu Sarah who was in charge of paying the group’s fighters in northern Iraq, Mr. Carter said. He said American airstrikes had also destroyed “a significant quantity of improvised explosive devices and bomb-making equipment” that could have been used against Iraqi forces as they try and reclaim the city of Mosul.

Defense Department officials have declined to elaborate on why they are having more accuracy striking the group’s top commanders. Earlier this year, a special unit of American commandos tasked with identifying, capturing and killing the Islamic State’s leaders arrived in Iraq and began working closely with local forces there.

“The momentum of this campaign is clearly on our side,” Mr. Carter said.

A similar group of American special forces in Syria has been working alongside rebel groups there for several months.

Despite the victories on the battlefields in Iraq and Syria, the Islamic State still appears capable of pulling off large, complex attacks far beyond its safe haven. This week, the group claimed credit for the bombings in Brussels that killed 31 people and injured scores.

The State Department, which had offered a $7 million bounty for information about Mr. Qaduli, said he had been a top deputy to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the former leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq who was killed by the Americans in 2006.
 
whack a mole...means nothing if you kill one fire ant out of a nest.. U need to napalm the whole thing

more face saving like the 'round up the usual suspects' thing the Muslim loving French and Brussels coppers are doing .. while the real suicide bombers are still on the loose
 
The world demands a Trump Presidency!

 
You hate them and they hate you. Congratulations. You have an endless cycle of violence and hate which you are gleefully perpetuating.

Your grand kids will still be fighting it.

Sadly, very few people understand this. Very well said, Vanguard.

Sadly you two dimwits cant quite pull your heads out of the sand and understand that this isn't a "cycle". This is a Jihad against the Western way of life.

Your tolerate and compassionate counterparts in Europe had opened its borders to these goat ******* to let them know they are loved and that we Europeans never meant them any harm.
And what did that get them but home grown terrorists and millions of "moderates" that harbor them.

As unrealistic and cliché as it sounds, their goal is to rule the world. They understand that it wont happen in their lifetimes, but the seeds, mainly in Europe, have been planted....and you're right, our grand kids will still be fighting it.
The terrorists and their leaders that have been killed, like those that flew those jets into the WTC are viewed as heroes, martyrs, and the "founding fathers" by todays "moderate" Muslim.

Cycle of violence my ***.

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Saw this on FB yesterday....

"Why is it awful to blame and hate all Muslims when they attack and kill people, but it's perfectly fine to blame and hate all cops when the same thing happens?"
 
your words scare and frighten me, Tim.
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ahhhh. better.

Sorry. You do NOT get to just declare your own "safe space." It must be state sanctioned.

Saw this on FB yesterday....

"Why is it awful to blame and hate all Muslims when they attack and kill people, but it's perfectly fine to blame and hate all cops when the same thing happens?"

Nice.
 
How Muslims celebrate Easter - killing Christians




Blast in crowded Pakistan park kills at least 60


Suicide Bomber Kills Dozens, Mostly Women, Kids in Pakistan Park

An explosion ripped through a crowded Pakistan park where Christians were celebrating Easter on Sunday, killing at least 60 people, officials told the Associated Press.

About 300 people were injured when a bomb detonated in the parking area of Gulshan-e-Iqbal Park in the eastern city of Lahore. A suicide bomber is suspected of being responsible for the blast, though authorities continue to investigate.

The explosion reportedly occurred just outside the exit gate and near rides for children.

"When the blast occurred, the flames were so high they reached above the trees and I saw bodies flying in the air," Hasan Imran, 30, told Reuters.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/03/27/blast-near-pakistan-park-kills-10.html?intcmp=hpbt1
 
Here is the statement released - not by the president, but by some State Dept. spokesman - http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2016/03/255205.htm

The United States condemns in the strongest terms today’s appalling terrorist attack in Lahore, Pakistan. This cowardly act, which targeted innocent civilians in the Gulshan-e-Iqbal Park, has killed dozens and left scores injured.

The United States stands with the people and Government of Pakistan at this difficult hour. We send our deepest condolences to the loved ones of those killed and injured, and our thoughts and prayers are with the people of Lahore as they respond to and recover from this terrible tragedy.

Attacks like these only deepen our shared resolve to defeat terrorism around the world, and we will continue to work with our partners in Pakistan and across the region to combat the threat of terrorism.

Nothing about Christians being the obvious target, or that this was an attack on a Easter celebration gathering, or even that it happened on Easter.
 
Seems easy to catch these Amish terrorists, the get away buggies can't go very fast.
 
what the **** kind of statement is "stands with ______ government"?
we release the same, tired old statement each time.
does the gov't really think that the remaining terrorists will see this statement and say "Oh, Allah. We must stop. The US Gov't is standing with ______ government. Oh goat-**** covered penises. We are doomed."
 
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