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The Coronavirus thread

Vader said:
A new study came out today from NY. Almost 14% of people in NY have antibodies for COVID-19. If that standard holds true that means 2.7 million people have been exposed to COVID-19. In NY city the rate was 21%. For those that still have math issues; this will drop the death rate... not the total number of deaths but the "rate". So more tests means lower rates of death because the tests uncloak those that are asymptomatic.

For God sake open the country up. When the testing is finalized they are going to find massive amounts of people that have antibodies to this virus. This correlates very well with the California study conducted last week. Millions of people have been exposed but not many are dying. Those that are dying fit into same category (except children) that would die of a bad flu season.
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I, along with many of the virologists that bothered to actually put out material for the press to ignore, have been saying this since the quarantine numbers came out. There is this ridiculous idea that 100% of the population will get it within the first year... even with wide open no restrictions society, that is an absurd concept... over a decade, maybe... but viruses aren’t ever that infectious, not even the cold or flu or really anything...

But for as infectious as it was, expecting that it hadn’t hit 15% of tge population already was idiotic... all of this math is lining up... end the lockdown... keep social distancing for a bit if it makes you feel better...
 
Steelr4evr said:
I'm going with the Bane mask. That's how I roll https://want-that.com/bane-mask/
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https://www.amazon.com/Batman-Dark-Knight-Rises-Three-Fourth/dp/B0073E4X7W

Currently unavailable but clearly the way to go.

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Al Gore: ‘Climate Crisis and the COVID-19 Pandemic Are Linked’

This climate crisis and the COVID-19 pandemic are linked in some ways. They both use bullshit models to panic the gen pop into accepting ruinous policies the benefit the elite. The Coronavirus situation benefitted from an actual threat which could credibly be exaggerated. We had to make up our bogeyman for climate change, so it's been tougher sledding, but we are getting there.
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OK, part of that quote was made up.
 
Thank you for this article! Enough With The Sappy Coronavirus TV Ads

I am so sick of this bullshit, and this article was great to see. Some excepts (click on title for full text).
A new kind of television advertisement has crept into our collective consciousness here in the age of virus. In an effort to show that they care, and you know, sell stuff, major corporations are inundating the airwaves with saccharine-sweet, super-sincere TV spots that are not a little bit dystopian. Indeed, the virus, it seems, is inescapable even when we cut to a few words from our sponsors.

You’ve all seen them. They include phrases like, “In this time, more than any other,” or “As we all rise to the challenge,” or “Stay safe, stay home.” The last one is particularly infuriating. I mean, I am home! I’m watching freakin television! Where do you think I am, a sports bar? I’m just trying to tune out watching “Friends” over here.
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This crap during the draft was driving me nuts.

We all know already about the shutdown. It’s not a public service to constantly remind us that we have barely left our houses for two months. One of the big reasons people watch TV is to escape this weird reality for a few hours, to settle into the world as it was, not as it is. But the next thing you know it’s back to hospital rooms and facemasks on the screen, stirring music swelling beneath. Just stop.
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There is a danger of wallowing. Yes, our lives have temporarily changed, but no, coronavirus need not be at the center of our every waking moment. In fact, if we let it be, we will all slowly go insane. So please, big companies and advertising companies, just cut us a break. Let us think about something else. I’ll buy it, whatever it is. I promise.
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Amen
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
More alternative reality. It's not the supply chain stupid! Except....

How Covid-19 is impacting various points in the US food & ag supply chain
https://agfundernews.com/how-covid-19-is-impacting-various-points-in-the-food-ag-supply-chain.html



I'm a damned genius. Wait...there's more.



Wait, I said that hoarding was disrupting the supply chain....Hmmmmm



Not...people...getting sick...but interpersonal contact ad operational changes will disrupt the supply chain....wow.



So hold on...The economic shut down means people aren't going out to eat (I said that)...but the shutdown destroyed the oil markets which in turn means cattle producers are struggling to feed the animals that we eventually eat. Yeah....airplanes not flying isn't due to the...economic shut down.



But the drop in oil prices because transportation has been shut down...means...wait for it....grain production is also affected...in...the...supply chain.



What the what??? Poultry production could be affected drastically because we shut our borders...as a part of the shut down? Say it isn't so.

Jesus then there is this from Maximo Cullen, the chief economist for the United Nations’ Food and Agriculture Organization:

COVID-19 and the risk to food supply chains: How to respond?

http://www.fao.org/3/ca8388en/CA8388EN.pdf



God, that's like....everything I have said. Weird.

Christ I could go on for days, but then again I'm talking to stupid who won't consider facts, industry analysts, industry articles, real news reports, and subject matter experts on the matter. Because Trog believe Trog's fantasy view of the world.
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My view of the world is reality, Tim. Every news network is reporting exactly what I have been saying. There is actually excess supply. They are considering destroying livestock because there’s no place to have it processed... because they closed down the processing plants... because of COVID outbreaks. That is reality, it’s not an opinion.
 
Troglodyte said:
That is reality, it’s not an opinion.
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It is absolutely 100% without question undeniably stupidly your maligned opinion, supported by your MSM. You are quite literally making up your own reality. There's nothing REAL about it. You won't consider facts, industry analysts, industry articles, real news reports, and subject matter experts on the matter. Because Trog believe Trog's fantasy view of the world.

To believe that the ONLY reason our food supply chain is in trouble is because people are SICK is literally the dumbest **** you've ever said. I never think you can outdo yourself...but you do.

Question for you: When every ******* restaurant closed, did it have an impact on food processing? Yes or no?

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Troglodyte said:
My view of the world is reality, Tim. Every news network is reporting exactly what I have been saying. There is actually excess supply. They are considering destroying livestock because there’s no place to have it processed... because they closed down the processing plants... because of COVID outbreaks. That is reality, it’s not an opinion.
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Scare tactics and fearmongering... what exactly is the reasoning behind destroying animals over a potential month stoppage in processing ... there is no law about processing older animals nor is it unhealthy... some companies have standards, but that isn’t enough to make people flush tens of thousands of dollars in animals down the drain for nothing, right?

We potentially have a manufactured fresh meat shortage looming... we have enough frozen for a prolonged downtime..

The bigger issue with the processing is that without restaurants buying premium meat at a high pace the supply chain is backlogging... the issue with current liberal talking points is that they quit ising logic, science and math to back their positions and resort to emotional manipulation... virtually every liberal crisis has been a long term nothingburger played for political points... it is exactly why the independents and middle roaders are fleeing the Democratic party en mass...
 
CharlesDavenport said:
Thank you for this article! Enough With The Sappy Coronavirus TV Ads

I am so sick of this bullshit, and this article was great to see. Some excepts (click on title for full text).


This crap during the draft was driving me nuts.





Amen
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Be careful what you wish for. They will be replaced with even more maddening political ads soon. Trump is the DEVIL!!! Trump is RACIST!!!
 
LeXX75 said:
That aint the fault of the Rona.
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Nope, that lies squarely on the hands of the judicial and penal system again over reacting to the virus. A jail should be the prime example for how to contain a virus. Instead, they release inmates that could be asymptomatic carriers out into society. It makes no sense what so ever.
 
Trog's hero, General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO director, and former/current Terrorist keeps putting his foot in his mouth.

Remember, like Trog, there are countless MILLIONS who listen to people like this and call them experts.

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World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus is China's puppet...China bought the director-general race in 2017, making the WHO another battlefield in the world of geopolitics. China's tentacles latched onto this organization and now we can't trust it. When the Wuhan coronavirus was spreading like a brushfire in China, Tedros declared to the world that there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission. That was a lie. And he's been consistent in praising China for its shoddy efforts to contain the virus; the nation sat on its hands for nearly a week when it knew this pathogen would likely become a pandemic. This is China's fault. Period.

And now, Wuhan Tedros has the stones to say that the world should have listened to the WHO on this matter.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BREAKING</a> 'World should have listened to WHO' on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a>: Director General Tedros <a href="https://t.co/N7eua2j0JA">pic.twitter.com/N7eua2j0JA</a></p>— AFP news agency (@AFP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1254803548518395906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If the world had listened to Wuhan Tedros, the infection rate in the US would have been astronomical. Remember, the WHO and liberal America were against President Trump ending incoming travel from China and Europe. This saved lives

From the Wall Street Journal:

Taiwanese officials warned WHO on Dec. 31 that they had seen evidence that the virus could be transmitted human-to-human. But the agency, bowing to Beijing, doesn’t have a normal relationship with Taiwan. On Jan. 14 WHO tweeted, “Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission.” The agency took another week to reverse that misinformation.

On Jan. 22-23 a WHO emergency committee debated whether to declare Covid-19 a “public health emergency of international concern.” The virus already had spread to several countries, and making such a declaration would have better prepared the world. It should have been an easy decision, despite Beijing’s objections. Yet director-general Tedros Ghebreyesus declined and instead traveled to China.

He finally made the declaration on Jan. 30—losing a week of precious time—and his rhetoric suggests the trip to Beijing was more about politics than public health. “The Chinese government is to be congratulated for the extraordinary measures it has taken,” he said. “I left in absolutely no doubt about China’s commitment to transparency.”

A University of Southampton study suggests the number of coronavirus cases could have been reduced by 95% had China moved to contain the virus three weeks sooner. Yet Dr. Tedros gushed that Beijing had set “a new standard for outbreak response.” He also praised the speed with which China “sequenced the genome and shared it with WHO and the world.” China didn’t do so until Jan. 12.

On Jan. 30 Dr. Tedros also said that “WHO doesn’t recommend limiting trade and movement.” President Trump ignored the advice and announced travel restrictions on China the following day, slowing the spread of the virus. U.S. progressive elites echoed WHO and criticized Mr. Trump. WHO didn’t declare the coronavirus a pandemic until March 11.

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This record is tragic but not surprising. Much of the blame for WHO’s failures lies with Dr. Tedros, who is a politician, not a medical doctor. As a member of the left-wing Tigray People’s Liberation Front, he rose through Ethiopia’s autocratic government as health and foreign minister. After taking the director-general job in 2017, he tried to install Zimbabwe dictator Robert Mugabe as a WHO goodwill ambassador.

China inevitably gains more international clout as its economy grows. But why does WHO seem so much more afraid of Beijing’s ire than Washington’s? Only 12% of WHO’s assessed member-state contributions come from China. The U.S. contributes 22%. Americans at WHO generally are loyal to the institution, while Chinese appointees put Chinese interests first or they will suffer Beijing’s wrath.
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Steeler Pride said:
Nope, that lies squarely on the hands of the judicial and penal system again over reacting to the virus. A jail should be the prime example for how to contain a virus. Instead, they release inmates that could be asymptomatic carriers out into society. It makes no sense what so ever.
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Exactly. Now this fucknut wont learn a lesson at all and will continue to do this ****. From the looks of it, he’s escalating. Is it gonna take him killing someone to make the system wake the **** up?
 
Steelin said:
This has been taken down due to violating community standards. ******* You Tube.
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Welcome to censorship in the year 2020. Everyone that is so concerned for protecting others during this "pandemic" are apparently unwilling to protect the very rights that are afforded to them in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
 
the liberal media never stops...

https://www.lifenews.com/2020/04/28...G9rCVf_zUlLjQTjACV8IU7Om64krFgon2Edd_WnbAkuFM

After some uncertainty about the future of White House Coronavirus Task Force briefings, Monday’s edition went off without a hitch in the Rose Garden and the questions were relatively fair and uncontroversial.

That was until New York magazine’s Olivia Nuzzi was granted the final question and, despite the adoration from fellow liberal journalists afterward, she stood on the graves of Americans lost in the Vietnam War when she asked President Trump whether he “deserve” a second term since more Americans have died from coronavirus than the war.

Here was Nuzzi’s question: “If an American president loses more Americans over the course of six weeks than died in the entirety of the Vietnam war, does he deserve to be re-elected?”

That’s not a question but rather shameless, bad faith baiting that would make even the Chinese government mouthpieces blush.

Reacting to Nuzzi’s nonsense, our friend Mark Levin tweeted that she was the “inaugural winner of today’s Walter Duranty propagandist award.” Predictably, Nuzzi was already beloved among media elites and progressive charlatans, but her snarky piece of hate and propaganda made her even more endearing.

Nuzzi insisted afterward that it wasn’t a “gotcha” question, but when it’s a question that correspondents from CGTN or RT would ask, it’s not a good look.

Oftentimes, Trump would unload on the reporter and trash them for their truly unhelpful and partisan questioning. This time, however, Trump was surprisingly calm.

Trump started by insisting that while “we’ve lost a lot of people,” the projections aren’t anywhere close to the worst-case scenarios. Most importantly, he added that the current total (over 55,000 as of the briefing) was “far too many” and “[o]ne person is far too many for this.”

Again refusing to lose his temper, the President touted his travel restriction from China (with the caveat emphasizing that Americans should have been allowed to return), and the task force writ large under Vice President Mike Pence’s leadership.

Trump then concluded:

I think that everybody working on the ventilators, you see what we’ve done there, have done unbelievable. The press doesn’t talk about ventilators anymore. They just don’t want to talk about them, and that’s okay, but the reason they don’t want to talk — that was a subject that nobody could get off of. They don’t want to talk about ‘em. We’re in the same position on testing. We are lapping the world on testing and the world is coming to us, as I said, they’re coming to us saying what are you doing? How do you do it? We’re helping them. So, no, I think we’ve done a great job and one person — I will say this. One person is too many.
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**video in link**
 
Tim Steelersfan said:
It is absolutely 100% without question undeniably stupidly your maligned opinion, supported by your MSM. You are quite literally making up your own reality. There's nothing REAL about it. You won't consider facts, industry analysts, industry articles, real news reports, and subject matter experts on the matter. Because Trog believe Trog's fantasy view of the world.
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This is fascinating! You’re saying there weren’t massive COVID outbreaks and subsequent shutdowns of processing plants? And people didn’t die? And the CDC didn’t visit Sioux Falls? And the meat processors haven’t issued warning statements about shortages citing the outbreaks and shutdowns as THEE REASON? There’s nothing real about that? It’s all made up by me? And the MSM is supporting me? I mean, I’m flattered but... REALLY???

You are allowed to go outside and talk a walk and blow off steam, Tim.
 
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