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The Coronavirus thread

Steeltime said:
Really? Why haven't cases "skyrocketed" in ******* China, where apparently nobody is wearing masks any more, are attending massive gatherings shoulder-to-shoulder, and the disease has amazingly disappeared?

Can you explain this? Can anybody?

The first person to say "Trump" will be met with 147/7000th of a pound of jacketed lead. REAL explanations only, you poser wanna-be, bullshit fake Chinese flu experts.

Seriously. The disease is out there. China is pushing for more travel from the US to China. Europe has had kids in schools for months. Sweden never locked down.

So all of the bullshit claims about why America has "so many" Chinese flu cases don't wash. They don't. Schools open for months, no rampant spread. Huge gatherings in the ******* place where the disease was developed and released, no masks, no problem.

So explain please why only the United States is getting ****** in the *** by the Chinese flu??
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I can’t answer any of that. All I know is that cases are on the rise and they are about to go to virtual learning for the remainder of the semester. It’s amazing how the rest of the world has healed but the US hasn’t, I agree. I said before I felt we’d been had and I still do.

The only thing that gives me pause is that if this is a conspiracy, there are a lot of doctors, nurses, hospital administrators and family members in on it, and I’m not sure I buy that. But I can agree that something certainly doesn’t pass the smell test.
 
What is the real risk to college aged students? If they are confined to campus, do not go home to their families until after quarantining for 14 days after the semester ends, then what is the big deal? There is probably a better chance that a college student will die of meningitis than of a covid infection. College professors do not have to come into close contact with their student, they c an lecture from a stage and have grad students handle office hours.
 
Stoney said:
What is the real risk to college aged students? If they are confined to campus, do not go home to their families until after quarantining for 14 days after the semester ends, then what is the big deal? There is probably a better chance that a college student will die of meningitis than of a covid infection. College professors do not have to come into close contact with their student, they c an lecture from a stage and have grad students handle office hours.
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Don't know. My son had it. Got the sniffles, an earache, winded while working out one day. The most horrible aspect of it was being locked in his room for 10 straight days.

I just got done moving him back to Ohio State, into his new apartment there. Surrounded by the kids. Parties at every...single...house...every...single...night.

Odd part? Kids walking down the streets wearing masks....obedient little soldiers...then pulling up to a house party, red solo cups littering yards with beer cans, 40 people, ripping their masks off, hugging, dancing and drinking. But hit the sidewalk? Mask on.

Buh-zarre as ****.

I probably caught a case of it. Will know soon.
 
Who gives a **** if cases skyrocket? Really. It’s like getting a cold, if you have any symptoms at all. It’s nothing. Nothing but a fake libtard election year hyped up panic disease. That’s it.
 
Sarge said:
I can’t answer any of that. All I know is that cases are on the rise and they are about to go to virtual learning for the remainder of the semester. It’s amazing how the rest of the world has healed but the US hasn’t, I agree. I said before I felt we’d been had and I still do.

The only thing that gives me pause is that if this is a conspiracy, there are a lot of doctors, nurses, hospital administrators and family members in on it, and I’m not sure I buy that. But I can agree that something certainly doesn’t pass the smell test.
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The numbers are generated by govt agencies. My doctor told me back in June he had one patient with COVID. 87 years old and 2 weeks out of having an aortic valve replacement. He recovered just fine.

Many nowadays have to take self assessment tests now before going into work, myself included. If you answer that you have a headache or sore throat or you had the *****, the app flags you as potentially having COVID and you have to get tested. Who's to say those stats generated by the self assessment are not interpreted as a positive test?

Yes the virus is deadly but it's not the end all of humanity. Why are we treating it as such? I know and you do too
 
Sarge said:
I can’t answer any of that. All I know is that cases are on the rise and they are about to go to virtual learning for the remainder of the semester. It’s amazing how the rest of the world has healed but the US hasn’t, I agree. I said before I felt we’d been had and I still do.

The only thing that gives me pause is that if this is a conspiracy, there are a lot of doctors, nurses, hospital administrators and family members in on it, and I’m not sure I buy that. But I can agree that something certainly doesn’t pass the smell test.
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It’s not so much the medical staff being in on it.
It’s the procedures I’m sure a state or federal agency has them believing and following.

I think we’ve been had too.
A perfect opportunity to play politics with this virus.
 
It's kind of like the Patriots cheating. There may have only been a very few people in on the cheating. The players just know that teh play calls come in and damn if they aren't the perfect call a large % of the time. Coaches must just be working harder than any other coaches ever.

This could work in a similar fashion, just in reverse. The Doctors (players) do their jobs and treat people and fill out their charts. Then the Ernie Adams gets the data and adds a COVID diagnosis on there and reports it up the chain.
 
tapeANaspirin2it said:
It's kind of like the Patriots cheating. There may have only been a very few people in on the cheating. The players just know that teh play calls come in and damn if they aren't the perfect call a large % of the time. Coaches must just be working harder than any other coaches ever.

This could work in a similar fashion, just in reverse. The Doctors (players) do their jobs and treat people and fill out their charts. Then the Ernie Adams gets the data and adds a COVID diagnosis on there and reports it up the chain.
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Dude...
 
Wichita voted last night. Pre K thru 5th grade are either on site or virtual. 6-12 is all virtual. All fall sports cancelled. Be interesting to see what Derby (my district) does now. If we cancelled all fall sports, there would be a riot bigger than the Portland **** still going on. However- KC area schools (we compete against them) just cancelled everything as well. At this point, as much as I hate govt overreach- I wish the governor would step back in and make everything virtual until 2021. Then I would know if I still had a job and could plan accordingly. This not knowing anything **** has almost mentally ruined me.
 
I thought this was worth sharing. I saw this on shitbook. Or facefuck, if you prefer.


I have done my best to respect the diverse opinions regarding COVID-19 over these past few months, but I have these nagging questions about it... A friend posted this and it brilliantly sums up my train of thought:
Please just take politics out of it and read this with an open mind using common sense.
Anyone out there who can tell me what our end game is with the covid 19?
What is the magic formula that is going to allow us to sound the all clear?
Is it zero cases?
The only way that will happen is if we just stop testing and stop reporting.
Is it a vaccine?
It took 25 years for a chicken pox vaccine to be developed.
The smallpox inoculation was discovered in 1796 the last known natural case was in 1977.
We have a flu vaccine that is only 40 to 60% effective and less than half of the US population choose to get one, and roughly 20,000 Americans will die of the flu or flu complications each year.
Oh, you'll mandate it, like other vaccines are mandated in order to attend school, travel to some foreign countries, etc.
We already have a growing number of anti vaxxers refusing proven, tested, well known vaccines that have been administered for decades but aren’t necessarily safe!
Do you really think people will flock to get a fast tracked, quickly tested vaccine, whose long term side effects and overall efficacy are anyone's best guess?
How long are we going to cancel and postpone and reconsider all events and important life experiences?
You aren't doing in person school until second quarter?
What if October's numbers are the same as August?
What if next March is worse than this one was?
When do we decide quality of life outweighs the risks?
I understand Covid can be deadly or very dangerous for SOME people, but so are strawberries and so is shellfish.
We take risks multiple times a day without a second thought.
We know driving a car can be dangerous, we don't leave it in the garage.
We know the dangers of smoking, drinking and eating fried foods, we do it anyway.
We speed, we don't buckle our seatbelts, we take more than directed.
Quite a few people don't think twice about unprotected sex, they just hop right in it.
Is hugging Grandma really more dangerous than rush hour on the freeway?
Is going out with friends after work more risky than 4 day old gas station sushi?
Or operating a chainsaw?
When and how did we so quickly lose our free will?
Is there a waiver somewhere I can sign that says, "I understand the risks, but I choose a life with Hugs and Smiles, and the State Fair and Concerts and Homecoming."
I understand that there is a minuscule possibility I could die, but there is a 99.97% chance I will most likely end up feeling like crap for a few days and then get back to normal life.
I understand I could possibly pass it to someone else, if I'm not careful, but I can pass any virus onto someone else that could lead to death for some.
I'm struggling to see where or how this ends.
We either get busy living or we get busy dying.
When God decides it's your time, you don't get any mulligans, so I guess I would rather spend my time enjoying it and living in the moment and not worrying about what ifs and maybes, and I bet I'm not the only one.
What are your honest thoughts and please keep political bashing and mask shaming out of it... thank you
 
jitter77 said:
So the PA sec of health (the he/she) created new orders where if a nursing home has N95s they have to use them. We have like 10 grand KN95s and only a couple grand N95s (and you can not get them right now). The KN95s are not Niosh approved, so we are forced to use the N95s first. They basically want you to use up your "good stuff" first. Regardless if you have active cases or not. It makes 0 sense. Along those lines our Covid testing this week has been horrible. Today we got results from tests done on Monday and have had 15 employees test positive. I am guessing that was 15 out of about 70 or so. We have over 100 employees, but not all got tested monday. No resident results have come back yet. Out of the 15 only one has had symptoms and she was exposed elsewhere and informed via contact tracing. Both her and her 5-6 yr old daughter are sick....As for the others who knows. We are either going to get hammered or we had a bad batch of tests?
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https://www.amazon.com/b?node=21163419011
 
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tapeANaspirin2it said:
Just putting aside how dumb it is to cherry pick 1 particular day
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Fair enough, let's do this every day.

Covid-19 deaths, yesterday:

Spain: 16
France: 12
Japan: 16
Canada: 5
UK: 6
Germany: 10
United States: 1,090

Population of countries above: 426 million
Population of United States: 328 million
 
Does anyone find it odd that few have died from the seasonal flu in the US this year?

The average is about 36,000, but this year only about a sixth that number.
 
IndySteel said:
I thought this was worth sharing. I saw this on shitbook. Or facefuck, if you prefer.


I have done my best to respect the diverse opinions regarding COVID-19 over these past few months, but I have these nagging questions about it... A friend posted this and it brilliantly sums up my train of thought:
Please just take politics out of it and read this with an open mind using common sense.
Anyone out there who can tell me what our end game is with the covid 19?
What is the magic formula that is going to allow us to sound the all clear?
Is it zero cases?
The only way that will happen is if we just stop testing and stop reporting.
Is it a vaccine?
It took 25 years for a chicken pox vaccine to be developed.
The smallpox inoculation was discovered in 1796 the last known natural case was in 1977.
We have a flu vaccine that is only 40 to 60% effective and less than half of the US population choose to get one, and roughly 20,000 Americans will die of the flu or flu complications each year.
Oh, you'll mandate it, like other vaccines are mandated in order to attend school, travel to some foreign countries, etc.
We already have a growing number of anti vaxxers refusing proven, tested, well known vaccines that have been administered for decades but aren’t necessarily safe!
Do you really think people will flock to get a fast tracked, quickly tested vaccine, whose long term side effects and overall efficacy are anyone's best guess?
How long are we going to cancel and postpone and reconsider all events and important life experiences?
You aren't doing in person school until second quarter?
What if October's numbers are the same as August?
What if next March is worse than this one was?
When do we decide quality of life outweighs the risks?
I understand Covid can be deadly or very dangerous for SOME people, but so are strawberries and so is shellfish.
We take risks multiple times a day without a second thought.
We know driving a car can be dangerous, we don't leave it in the garage.
We know the dangers of smoking, drinking and eating fried foods, we do it anyway.
We speed, we don't buckle our seatbelts, we take more than directed.
Quite a few people don't think twice about unprotected sex, they just hop right in it.
Is hugging Grandma really more dangerous than rush hour on the freeway?
Is going out with friends after work more risky than 4 day old gas station sushi?
Or operating a chainsaw?
When and how did we so quickly lose our free will?
Is there a waiver somewhere I can sign that says, "I understand the risks, but I choose a life with Hugs and Smiles, and the State Fair and Concerts and Homecoming."
I understand that there is a minuscule possibility I could die, but there is a 99.97% chance I will most likely end up feeling like crap for a few days and then get back to normal life.
I understand I could possibly pass it to someone else, if I'm not careful, but I can pass any virus onto someone else that could lead to death for some.
I'm struggling to see where or how this ends.
We either get busy living or we get busy dying.
When God decides it's your time, you don't get any mulligans, so I guess I would rather spend my time enjoying it and living in the moment and not worrying about what ifs and maybes, and I bet I'm not the only one.
What are your honest thoughts and please keep political bashing and mask shaming out of it... thank you
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The endgame is mass vaccination, biometrics, Digital ID2020, Artificial Intelligence, contact tracing via smart technology and 5G, changing the social compact and curtailing individual thought and liberty, and Wal Mart and Amazon as the last men standing at the expense of small business and communities.

And of course destroying what happened in 2016.

Facebook and Google have helped the Chinese build a super high tech 5G smart prison in China for biometrics and organ harvesting of political prisoners. Wuhan, China at the time of Covid-1984 outbreak had the highest concentration of 5G towers in the world. Covid in all likelihood is in part also a cover to mask the health effects of 5G radiation on society's most infirm and as 5G now rolls out across the US and people are exposed to it for the first time and it starts messing with oxygenation of the blood in weaker people.

https://www.theeducationmagazine.com/education-now/severe-connection-5g-coronavirus/
 
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ZonaBurgh said:
Does anyone find it odd that few have died from the seasonal flu in the US this year?

The average is about 36,000, but this year only about a sixth that number.
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I find it odd that thousands and thousands jam the streets and people claim it doesn’t spread COVID, but 20 people in a church with masks does. I find it odd that going to a bar and having a beer spreads Covid19, but if you have dinner with that beer, it doesn’t spread. I find it odd that that thousands and thousands of people jam the streets to exercise one constitutional right refuse to go outside with a mask and social distancing to exercise another constitutional right because it’s just too damn dangerous.

I could go on and on. At this point, everyone knows it’s political even if they don’t admit it.
 
MAGA statisticians:


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Tibs said:
Fair enough, let's do this every day.

Covid-19 deaths, yesterday:

Spain: 16
France: 12
Japan: 16
Canada: 5
UK: 6
Germany: 10
United States: 1,090

Population of countries above: 426 million
Population of United States: 328 million
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I guess they haven’t seen the surge yet? Trumptards saying it will all even out over time. I’m thinking those countries ain’t trying to hear that...
 
IndySteel said:
I thought this was worth sharing. I saw this on shitbook. Or facefuck, if you prefer.


I have done my best to respect the diverse opinions regarding COVID-19 over these past few months, but I have these nagging questions about it... A friend posted this and it brilliantly sums up my train of thought:
Please just take politics out of it and read this with an open mind using common sense.
Anyone out there who can tell me what our end game is with the covid 19?
What is the magic formula that is going to allow us to sound the all clear?
Is it zero cases?
The only way that will happen is if we just stop testing and stop reporting.
Is it a vaccine?
It took 25 years for a chicken pox vaccine to be developed.
The smallpox inoculation was discovered in 1796 the last known natural case was in 1977.
We have a flu vaccine that is only 40 to 60% effective and less than half of the US population choose to get one, and roughly 20,000 Americans will die of the flu or flu complications each year.
Oh, you'll mandate it, like other vaccines are mandated in order to attend school, travel to some foreign countries, etc.
We already have a growing number of anti vaxxers refusing proven, tested, well known vaccines that have been administered for decades but aren’t necessarily safe!
Do you really think people will flock to get a fast tracked, quickly tested vaccine, whose long term side effects and overall efficacy are anyone's best guess?
How long are we going to cancel and postpone and reconsider all events and important life experiences?
You aren't doing in person school until second quarter?
What if October's numbers are the same as August?
What if next March is worse than this one was?
When do we decide quality of life outweighs the risks?
I understand Covid can be deadly or very dangerous for SOME people, but so are strawberries and so is shellfish.
We take risks multiple times a day without a second thought.
We know driving a car can be dangerous, we don't leave it in the garage.
We know the dangers of smoking, drinking and eating fried foods, we do it anyway.
We speed, we don't buckle our seatbelts, we take more than directed.
Quite a few people don't think twice about unprotected sex, they just hop right in it.
Is hugging Grandma really more dangerous than rush hour on the freeway?
Is going out with friends after work more risky than 4 day old gas station sushi?
Or operating a chainsaw?
When and how did we so quickly lose our free will?
Is there a waiver somewhere I can sign that says, "I understand the risks, but I choose a life with Hugs and Smiles, and the State Fair and Concerts and Homecoming."
I understand that there is a minuscule possibility I could die, but there is a 99.97% chance I will most likely end up feeling like crap for a few days and then get back to normal life.
I understand I could possibly pass it to someone else, if I'm not careful, but I can pass any virus onto someone else that could lead to death for some.
I'm struggling to see where or how this ends.
We either get busy living or we get busy dying.
When God decides it's your time, you don't get any mulligans, so I guess I would rather spend my time enjoying it and living in the moment and not worrying about what ifs and maybes, and I bet I'm not the only one.
What are your honest thoughts and please keep political bashing and mask shaming out of it... thank you
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Saw a football coach in PA saying (paraphrasing) We know playing football has risks. That's why there's an ambulance parked right next to the field at every game. Why are people telling us we're allowed to take those risks but not take the very small risk that one of these kids might get a virus that has killed almost zero percent of the kids their age who get it?"

Yeah, yeah. They could pass it on to grandma. SO PROTECT GRANDMA! Wear a mask and stay 20 feet away from grandma.

But by the way I work with elderly people and most of them are sick of all of this crap. Moved a lady into a retirement community yesterday and she will have to quarantine for two weeks, meals dropped on her doorstep. She told me she and most of her friends would rather risk getting covid than have to stay away from their families and friends indefinitely. "I want to enjoy whatever time I have left, even if it's shorter".
 
Troglodyte said:
What about opening noisy bars and nightclubs in mid-May where people crowded together and shouted in each others faces?
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What about hordes of people crowding streets, screaming at the tops of their lungs and throwing bottles of piss at people?
 
Troglodyte said:
I guess they haven’t seen the surge yet? Trumptards saying it will all even out over time. I’m thinking those countries ain’t trying to hear that...
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Spain Italy and the UK all have higher per capita deaths overall than we do. Take NYC out of our numbers and I'm guessing a whole bunch of countries do.

The places that surged early have lower numbers now. The places that were late to the party are surging.

The top 20 or so countries all have death rates that are within a couple of hundred per million population of each other. Yeah, kind of evening out.
 
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Tibs said:
Fair enough, let's do this every day.

Covid-19 deaths, yesterday:

Spain: 16
France: 12
Japan: 16
Canada: 5
UK: 6
Germany: 10
United States: 1,090

Population of countries above: 426 million
Population of United States: 328 million
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hmm, wouldn’t doing it for every day mean using the overall totals where the US per capital deaths are similar to those countries? But no. Just keep picking out individual days.

You can’t compare individual days between the US and Europe/Asia. First, the US daily death numbers are not a true measure of a single day. It is a trailing stat where numerous deaths are added all at once to particular days, and I’m sure you pick out those particular days where the deaths get added. Second, the US is a few weeks behind the world in terms of impact. So even if you did want to compare specific days, you would have to compare the US to dates several weeks in the past in Europe and Asia and each of those countries would have different dates that should be used to make a true comparison.

of course, that’s what would be what has to be done for a true apple to apples comparison and that’s not the point of the methodology from whatever leftist website you got that comparison. Their objective is to find the scariest metric possible.
 
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