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China will probably buy up all the real estate that people are selling to escape NY and he wants to keep his overlords happy
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you don’t see that those are encouraging numbers? Just putting aside how dumb it is to cherry pick 1 particular day, the fact that Europe’s death numbers have fallen shows that many of them have achieved herd immunity. Europe has always been a few weeks ahead of the US so with their deaths dropping, the US likely will as well in the near future. That is of course unless they keep counting 90 year old cancer patients as Covid deaths. But even with that, the deaths should drop.
a friend of mine whose company does lots of business in Europe told me that when he talks to his contacts there, they say that they are not wearing masks and are going about their lives now as if it’s in the past.
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These countries did not achieve herd immunity, they achieved herd social distancing. They acted like a Nation in an effort to help protect their fellow citizens.
Canada got the virus after the US and have got it under control much quicker. With schools reopening, the US peaks will likely start mid September thru October.
Canada got the virus after the US and have got it under control much quicker. With schools reopening, the US peaks will likely start mid September thru October.
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Trump says you can’t do that!
Um, it's a virus and it's not under control until the populace gains immunity, one way or the other. Listen up, you cannot hide from this.
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Here is some real bullshit we are dealing with at my sons college! Can't believe they are doing this ****. It is his money so his decision.
https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/19/coronavirus-albion-security-flaws-app/?fbclid=IwAR1xzu6b_4oj0zHH2B2Hbp5fHXyLUtHG28P7BGkzasA0QjH5SjcRMvCyi4w
Fearing coronavirus, a Michigan college tracks its students with a flawed app
And students have no way to opt out
Zack Whittaker@zackwhittaker / 4:30 pm EDT•August 19, 2020
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Schools and universities across the United States are split on whether to open for the fall semester, thanks to the ongoing pandemic.
Albion College, a small liberal arts school in Michigan, said in June it would allow its nearly 1,500 students to return to campus for the new academic year starting in August. Lectures would be limited in size and the semester would finish by Thanksgiving rather than December. The school said it would test both staff and students upon their arrival to campus and throughout the academic year.
But less than two weeks before students began arriving on campus, the school announced it would require them to download and install a contact-tracing app called Aura, which it says will help it tackle any coronavirus outbreak on campus.
There’s a catch. The app is designed to track students’ real-time locations around the clock, and there is no way to opt out.
The Aura app lets the school know when a student tests positive for COVID-19. It also comes with a contact-tracing feature that alerts students when they have come into close proximity with a person who tested positive for the virus. But the feature requires constant access to the student’s real-time location, which the college says is necessary to track the spread of any exposure.
The school’s mandatory use of the app sparked privacy concerns and prompted parents to launch a petition to make using the app optional.
Worse, the app had at least two security vulnerabilities only discovered after the app was rolled out. One of the vulnerabilities allowed access to the app’s back-end servers. The other allowed us to infer a student’s COVID-19 test results.
The vulnerabilities were fixed. But students are still expected to use the app or face suspension.
Track and trace
Exactly how Aura came to be and how Albion became its first major customer is a mystery.
Aura was developed by Nucleus Careers in the months after the pandemic began. Nucleus Careers is a Pennsylvania-based recruiting firm founded in 2020, with no apparent history or experience in building or developing healthcare apps besides a brief mention in a recent press release. The app was built in partnership with Genetworx, a Virginia-based lab providing coronavirus tests. (We asked Genetworx about the app and its involvement, but TechCrunch did not hear back from the company.)
The app helps students locate and schedule COVID-19 testing on campus. Once a student is tested for COVID-19, the results are fed into the app.
If the test comes back negative, the app displays a QR code which, when scanned, says the student is “certified” free of the virus. If the student tests positive or has yet to be tested, the student’s QR code will read “denied.”
Aura uses the student’s real-time location to determine if they have come into contact with another person with the virus. Most other contact-tracing apps use nearby Bluetooth signals, which experts say is more privacy-friendly.
Hundreds of academics have argued that collecting and storing location data is bad for privacy.
The Aura app generates a QR code based on the student’s COVID-19 test results. Scan the QR code to reveal the student’s test result status. (Image: TechCrunch)
In addition to having to install the app, students were told they are not allowed to leave campus for the duration of the semester without permission over fears that contact with the wider community might bring the virus back to campus.
If a student leaves campus without permission, the app will alert the school, and the student’s ID card will be locked and access to campus buildings will be revoked, according to an email to students, seen by TechCrunch.
Students are not allowed to turn off their location and can be suspended and “removed from campus” if they violate the policy, the email read.
Private universities in the U.S. like Albion can largely set and enforce their own rules and have been likened to “shadow criminal justice systems — without any of the protections or powers of a criminal court,” where students can face discipline and expulsion for almost any reason with little to no recourse. Last year, TechCrunch reported on a student at Tufts University who was expelled for alleged grade hacking, despite exculpatory evidence in her favor.
Albion said in an online Q&A that the “only time a student’s location data will be accessed is if they test positive or if they leave campus without following proper procedure.” But the school has not said how it will ensure that student location data is not improperly accessed, or who has access.
“I think it’s more creepy than anything and has caused me a lot of anxiety about going back,” one student going into their senior year, who asked not to be named, told TechCrunch.
A ‘rush job’
One Albion student was not convinced the app was safe or private.
The student, who asked to go by her Twitter handle @Q3w3e3, decompiles and analyzes apps on the side. “I just like knowing what apps are doing,” she told TechCrunch.
Buried in the app’s source code, she found hardcoded secret keys for the app’s backend servers, hosted on Amazon Web Services. She tweeted her findings — with careful redactions to prevent misuse — and reported the problems to Nucleus, but did not hear back.
A security researcher, who asked to go by her handle Gilda, was watching the tweets about Aura roll in. Gilda also dug into the app and found and tested the keys.
“The keys were practically ‘full access’,” Gilda told TechCrunch. She said the keys — since changed — gave her access to the app’s databases and cloud storage in which she found patient data, including COVID-19 test results with names, addresses and dates of birth.
Nucleus pushed out an updated version of the app on the same day with the keys removed, but did not acknowledge the vulnerability.
TechCrunch also wanted to look under the hood to see how Aura works. We used a network analysis tool, Burp Suite, to understand the network data going in and out of the app. (We’ve done this a few times before.) Using our spare iPhone, we registered an Aura account and logged in. The app normally pulls in recent COVID-19 tests. In our case, we didn’t have any and so the scannable QR code, generated by the app, declared that I had been “denied” clearance to enter campus — as to be expected.
But our network analysis tool showed that the QR code was not generated on the device but on a hidden part of Aura’s website. The web address that generated the QR code included the Aura user’s account number, which isn’t visible from the app. If we increased or decreased the account number in the web address by a single digit, it generated a QR code for that user’s Aura account.
In other words, because we could see another user’s QR code, we could also see the student’s full name, their COVID-19 test result status and what date the student was certified or denied.
TechCrunch did not enumerate each QR code, but through limited testing found that the bug may have exposed about 15,000 QR codes.
We described the app’s vulnerabilities to Will Strafach, a security researcher and chief executive at Guardian Firewall. Strafach said the app sounded like a “rush job,” and that the enumeration bug could be easily caught during a security review. “The fact that they were unaware tells me they did not even bother to do this,” he said. And, the keys left in the source code, said Strafach, suggested “a ‘just-ship-it’ attitude to a worrisome extreme.”
An email sent by Albion president Matthew Johnson, dated August 18 and shared with TechCrunch, confirmed that the school has since launched a security review of the app.
We sent Nucleus several questions — including about the vulnerabilities and if the app had gone through a security audit. Nucleus fixed the QR code vulnerability after TechCrunch detailed the bug. But a spokesperson for the company, Tony Defazio, did not provide comment. “I advised the company of your inquiry,” he said. The spokesperson did not return follow-up emails.
In response to the student’s findings, Albion said that the app was compliant with the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, or HIPAA, which governs the privacy of health data and medical records. HIPAA also holds companies — including universities — accountable for security lapses involving health data. That can mean heavy fines or, in some cases, prosecution.
Albion spokesperson Chuck Carlson did not respond to our emails requesting comment.
At least two other schools, Bucknell University and Temple University, are reopening for the fall semester by requiring students to present two negative COVID-19 tests through Genetworx. The schools are not using Aura, but their own in-house student app to deliver the test results.
Albion students, meanwhile, are split on whether to comply, or refuse and face the consequences. @Q3w3e3 said she will not use the app. “I’m trying to work with the college to find an alternative way to be tested,” she told TechCrunch.
Parents have also expressed their anger at the policy.
“I absolutely hate it. I think it’s a violation of her privacy and civil liberties,” said Elizabeth Burbank, a parent of an Albion student, who signed the petition against the school’s tracking effort.
“I do want to keep my daughter safe, of course, and help keep others safe as well. We are more than happy to do our part. I do not believe however, a GPS tracker is the way to go,” she said. “Wash our hands. Eat healthy. And keep researching treatments and vaccines. That should be our focus.
“I do intend to do all I can to protect my daughter’s right to privacy and challenge her right to free movement in her community,” she said.
https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/19/coronavirus-albion-security-flaws-app/?fbclid=IwAR1xzu6b_4oj0zHH2B2Hbp5fHXyLUtHG28P7BGkzasA0QjH5SjcRMvCyi4w
Fearing coronavirus, a Michigan college tracks its students with a flawed app
And students have no way to opt out
Zack Whittaker@zackwhittaker / 4:30 pm EDT•August 19, 2020
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Image Credits: (TechCrunch composite) / Getty Images
Schools and universities across the United States are split on whether to open for the fall semester, thanks to the ongoing pandemic.
Albion College, a small liberal arts school in Michigan, said in June it would allow its nearly 1,500 students to return to campus for the new academic year starting in August. Lectures would be limited in size and the semester would finish by Thanksgiving rather than December. The school said it would test both staff and students upon their arrival to campus and throughout the academic year.
But less than two weeks before students began arriving on campus, the school announced it would require them to download and install a contact-tracing app called Aura, which it says will help it tackle any coronavirus outbreak on campus.
There’s a catch. The app is designed to track students’ real-time locations around the clock, and there is no way to opt out.
The Aura app lets the school know when a student tests positive for COVID-19. It also comes with a contact-tracing feature that alerts students when they have come into close proximity with a person who tested positive for the virus. But the feature requires constant access to the student’s real-time location, which the college says is necessary to track the spread of any exposure.
The school’s mandatory use of the app sparked privacy concerns and prompted parents to launch a petition to make using the app optional.
Worse, the app had at least two security vulnerabilities only discovered after the app was rolled out. One of the vulnerabilities allowed access to the app’s back-end servers. The other allowed us to infer a student’s COVID-19 test results.
The vulnerabilities were fixed. But students are still expected to use the app or face suspension.
Track and trace
Exactly how Aura came to be and how Albion became its first major customer is a mystery.
Aura was developed by Nucleus Careers in the months after the pandemic began. Nucleus Careers is a Pennsylvania-based recruiting firm founded in 2020, with no apparent history or experience in building or developing healthcare apps besides a brief mention in a recent press release. The app was built in partnership with Genetworx, a Virginia-based lab providing coronavirus tests. (We asked Genetworx about the app and its involvement, but TechCrunch did not hear back from the company.)
The app helps students locate and schedule COVID-19 testing on campus. Once a student is tested for COVID-19, the results are fed into the app.
If the test comes back negative, the app displays a QR code which, when scanned, says the student is “certified” free of the virus. If the student tests positive or has yet to be tested, the student’s QR code will read “denied.”
Aura uses the student’s real-time location to determine if they have come into contact with another person with the virus. Most other contact-tracing apps use nearby Bluetooth signals, which experts say is more privacy-friendly.
Hundreds of academics have argued that collecting and storing location data is bad for privacy.
The Aura app generates a QR code based on the student’s COVID-19 test results. Scan the QR code to reveal the student’s test result status. (Image: TechCrunch)
In addition to having to install the app, students were told they are not allowed to leave campus for the duration of the semester without permission over fears that contact with the wider community might bring the virus back to campus.
If a student leaves campus without permission, the app will alert the school, and the student’s ID card will be locked and access to campus buildings will be revoked, according to an email to students, seen by TechCrunch.
Students are not allowed to turn off their location and can be suspended and “removed from campus” if they violate the policy, the email read.
Private universities in the U.S. like Albion can largely set and enforce their own rules and have been likened to “shadow criminal justice systems — without any of the protections or powers of a criminal court,” where students can face discipline and expulsion for almost any reason with little to no recourse. Last year, TechCrunch reported on a student at Tufts University who was expelled for alleged grade hacking, despite exculpatory evidence in her favor.
Albion said in an online Q&A that the “only time a student’s location data will be accessed is if they test positive or if they leave campus without following proper procedure.” But the school has not said how it will ensure that student location data is not improperly accessed, or who has access.
“I think it’s more creepy than anything and has caused me a lot of anxiety about going back,” one student going into their senior year, who asked not to be named, told TechCrunch.
A ‘rush job’
One Albion student was not convinced the app was safe or private.
The student, who asked to go by her Twitter handle @Q3w3e3, decompiles and analyzes apps on the side. “I just like knowing what apps are doing,” she told TechCrunch.
Buried in the app’s source code, she found hardcoded secret keys for the app’s backend servers, hosted on Amazon Web Services. She tweeted her findings — with careful redactions to prevent misuse — and reported the problems to Nucleus, but did not hear back.
A security researcher, who asked to go by her handle Gilda, was watching the tweets about Aura roll in. Gilda also dug into the app and found and tested the keys.
“The keys were practically ‘full access’,” Gilda told TechCrunch. She said the keys — since changed — gave her access to the app’s databases and cloud storage in which she found patient data, including COVID-19 test results with names, addresses and dates of birth.
Nucleus pushed out an updated version of the app on the same day with the keys removed, but did not acknowledge the vulnerability.
TechCrunch also wanted to look under the hood to see how Aura works. We used a network analysis tool, Burp Suite, to understand the network data going in and out of the app. (We’ve done this a few times before.) Using our spare iPhone, we registered an Aura account and logged in. The app normally pulls in recent COVID-19 tests. In our case, we didn’t have any and so the scannable QR code, generated by the app, declared that I had been “denied” clearance to enter campus — as to be expected.
But our network analysis tool showed that the QR code was not generated on the device but on a hidden part of Aura’s website. The web address that generated the QR code included the Aura user’s account number, which isn’t visible from the app. If we increased or decreased the account number in the web address by a single digit, it generated a QR code for that user’s Aura account.
In other words, because we could see another user’s QR code, we could also see the student’s full name, their COVID-19 test result status and what date the student was certified or denied.
TechCrunch did not enumerate each QR code, but through limited testing found that the bug may have exposed about 15,000 QR codes.
We described the app’s vulnerabilities to Will Strafach, a security researcher and chief executive at Guardian Firewall. Strafach said the app sounded like a “rush job,” and that the enumeration bug could be easily caught during a security review. “The fact that they were unaware tells me they did not even bother to do this,” he said. And, the keys left in the source code, said Strafach, suggested “a ‘just-ship-it’ attitude to a worrisome extreme.”
An email sent by Albion president Matthew Johnson, dated August 18 and shared with TechCrunch, confirmed that the school has since launched a security review of the app.
We sent Nucleus several questions — including about the vulnerabilities and if the app had gone through a security audit. Nucleus fixed the QR code vulnerability after TechCrunch detailed the bug. But a spokesperson for the company, Tony Defazio, did not provide comment. “I advised the company of your inquiry,” he said. The spokesperson did not return follow-up emails.
In response to the student’s findings, Albion said that the app was compliant with the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, or HIPAA, which governs the privacy of health data and medical records. HIPAA also holds companies — including universities — accountable for security lapses involving health data. That can mean heavy fines or, in some cases, prosecution.
Albion spokesperson Chuck Carlson did not respond to our emails requesting comment.
At least two other schools, Bucknell University and Temple University, are reopening for the fall semester by requiring students to present two negative COVID-19 tests through Genetworx. The schools are not using Aura, but their own in-house student app to deliver the test results.
Albion students, meanwhile, are split on whether to comply, or refuse and face the consequences. @Q3w3e3 said she will not use the app. “I’m trying to work with the college to find an alternative way to be tested,” she told TechCrunch.
Parents have also expressed their anger at the policy.
“I absolutely hate it. I think it’s a violation of her privacy and civil liberties,” said Elizabeth Burbank, a parent of an Albion student, who signed the petition against the school’s tracking effort.
“I do want to keep my daughter safe, of course, and help keep others safe as well. We are more than happy to do our part. I do not believe however, a GPS tracker is the way to go,” she said. “Wash our hands. Eat healthy. And keep researching treatments and vaccines. That should be our focus.
“I do intend to do all I can to protect my daughter’s right to privacy and challenge her right to free movement in her community,” she said.
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Oh the virus will be the least of anyone's worries if you keep the country on lockdown,masked up and playing politics with peoples lives.
I'm amazed at how long people have remained civil. The shitbag commie anarchists don't count. They're just pawns for democrats. Useful idiots easily misled.
The number of cases peaked on July 19, 2020 at 74,254, and declined to 41,073 yesterday.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102816/coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-us-americans-by-day/
That total of course is a "running" total that can add dozens or hundreds previously tested but not reported, so it involves lag time. But interesting that the protests and the huge gatherings of thugs and looters took place May 28, 2020 - June 15, 2020 and the 'Rona boom started about two weeks after that (May 28, 2020 - 16,362 new cases, June 13, 2020 - 21,745 new cases) and continued to boom thereafter before slowing in early August, 2020.
So maybe Tibs and Flog and 21 should blame the people who insisted that protests were not a problem - Fauci, the 1200 doctors, and (D)ims. How about saying, "Hey, you idiots encouraged people to gather in very large groups, no distancing, many without masks, so bear the blame"?
Yeah, of course not. Truth does not matter. All that matters is OMB. Nothing else.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102816/coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-us-americans-by-day/
That total of course is a "running" total that can add dozens or hundreds previously tested but not reported, so it involves lag time. But interesting that the protests and the huge gatherings of thugs and looters took place May 28, 2020 - June 15, 2020 and the 'Rona boom started about two weeks after that (May 28, 2020 - 16,362 new cases, June 13, 2020 - 21,745 new cases) and continued to boom thereafter before slowing in early August, 2020.
So maybe Tibs and Flog and 21 should blame the people who insisted that protests were not a problem - Fauci, the 1200 doctors, and (D)ims. How about saying, "Hey, you idiots encouraged people to gather in very large groups, no distancing, many without masks, so bear the blame"?
Yeah, of course not. Truth does not matter. All that matters is OMB. Nothing else.
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One's educational experience is rarely just about college.
While submitting, humbly, might be a trait that some employers want, it is probably not the guidance most dads would give their sons
Good Luck!
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Oh, and here's a revolutionary idea, college students ...
Leave the phone in your dorm room.
WOW!! Track this, *******.
Leave the phone in your dorm room.
WOW!! Track this, *******.
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The protests were everywhere, not just Florida, Georgia, Texas and Arizona. It was opening up too early that created the surge. There’s your truth.
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Totally agree.
Wait and see, when this is all said and done, every country will have virtually the same number of deaths per capita. We may have more because we have a lot more obesity, hypertension and diabetes than some other countries. Other countries may have more due to a more elderly population. But once you adjust for those variables it will be a very similar death toll. Until there's a vaccine we can only slow it down, we won't stop it from spreading. As we've seen all over the world people are not going to hide in their houses for years unless by force.
We will also find out that many people already have immunity because of exposure to other coronaviruses. Hence the "asymptomatic" people. That immunity may be more widespread in Asia for example, where coronaviruses may have been circulating longer. That will account for some of the differences in deaths.
But of course it's "scientific" to say Trump is to blame.
Yep, lying liar telling lies. What a shock.
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That is my sons plan and luckily he is in living in a co-op technically off campus but in the bubble so he won't have an RA up his ***.
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Florida, Texas and Georgia are the top three in per capita cases. FACT.
Oregon is 41st. Must be because Portland didn’t have any protests, right?
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Oh I am sure knowing him he will rebel in his own arrogant 20 year old way. He thought about telling them he doesn't have a phone and doesn't believe in them. Maybe claim to be Amish.
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Florida- 200,000 tests per million population
Texas- 169,000 tests per million population
Georgia-220,000 tests per million population
Oregon- 119,000 tests per million population
Golly gee, wonder why they have so many more positive tests than Oregon.
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Here's another interesting stat: Illegal immigrants are
3.8% of Florida's population
3.8% of Georgia's population
5.7% of Texas' population
2.6% of Oregon's population
Look at that! I just proved illegal immigrants cause coronavirus!
Statistics are fun.
3.8% of Florida's population
3.8% of Georgia's population
5.7% of Texas' population
2.6% of Oregon's population
Look at that! I just proved illegal immigrants cause coronavirus!
Statistics are fun.
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So Texas has over 4 times as many cases per capita because they have 1.4 times as many tests per capita? Compelling argument, but I thought it was the protests?
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your premise seems to be that if everything just stayed shut down, the rona would have just died out and everybody could come out with no ill effects. That's stupid. This isn't a hurricane that you wait out in a storm cellar. Maybe a small group or small country can do that but no large nation can just hibernate and come out virus free in a few months.
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if you don't think protests lead to a spread of disease then why are you in favor of lockdowns at all?
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Nope, didn't say that. The point is you can't compare apples to oranges. Lots of things factor into the numbers...number of tests is one. Demographics is another. Population density is another. Hard to say how protests figure in, there were protests in Dallas, Houston and many other smaller towns in Texas as well.
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Who cares about cases? GASP!!! SOMEONE GOT THE RONA!!!
*****, please.
Lets look at why we are all forced into political slavery, DEATHS
Total cases Per 1M people
United States
All regions
Confirmed Deaths
California
17,162 310
Florida
30,646 521
Texas
21,037 399
New York
22,148 1,664
Georgia
23,153 483
Illinois
16,620 625
Arizona
30,169 716
New Jersey
21,568 1,805
North Carolina
15,377 255
Louisiana
30,612 1,007
Tennessee
21,053 224
Pennsylvania
10,276 596
Okay...So all of those States that your bitching about Trog, you know, the ones that opened up and acted irresponsibly, have the lowest death rates. Georgia has LESS DEATHS than Pennsylvania per million. So do Texas and Florida.
Idiots running around like chicken little spreading the MSM fear campaign instead of focusing on how overreactive the government has been to this bullshit.