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The Coronavirus thread

Christ it's like they had all those demands on the sidelines just waiting for the next catastrophe/emergency spending bill. Somebody needs to have a national address, tell everyone what is going on, and for the public to demand that this and any future COVID-19 spending bills be focused on those who are immediately affected by this shutdown.
 
Eerie:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GHOST TOWN: Incredible drone video from above shows some <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Pittsburgh?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Pittsburgh</a> bridges during rush hour. Normally thousands commute, but now just a handful due to the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/coronavirus?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#coronavirus</a>. <a href="https://t.co/Fz42HyFgGs">https://t.co/Fz42HyFgGs</a> <a href="https://t.co/2LKpGMGXh1">pic.twitter.com/2LKpGMGXh1</a></p>— KDKA (@KDKA) <a href="https://twitter.com/KDKA/status/1240675069698998272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Here it is Steelin.
 
people out of work should be getting those checks immediately. Thankfully, I was out for one day and now my company is considered 'essential'. All of those working people that were scraping by before this need assistance now! This is part of politics that really piss me off, that they hold Americans hostage over their agendas. Reps, Dems, all of them. People are going to become desperate if they can't feed their families or are able to get supplies because they have no work or money. It's going to get ugly and violent.
 
#PelosiHatesAmericans is trending, lmao! That's what you get, you evil *****.
 
In somewhat related news, chemical suppliers in China ship their samples in clear butt plugs.

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2 confirmed cases of corona virus on Fort Drum today. They sent the entire battalion home. **** gonna spread like wildfire across the base now. I start telework tomorrow. Yay.
 
To expand on your post Tim:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can confirm this. This is what Democrats torpedoed the rescue package for.<br><br>This will go down as one of the most cynical, disgusting, malevolent actions in history. Millions are losing jobs while they play these games. <a href="https://t.co/SUCtYxmXGo">https://t.co/SUCtYxmXGo</a></p>— Rep. Dan Crenshaw (@RepDanCrenshaw) <a href="https://twitter.com/RepDanCrenshaw/status/1242131400779878400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EVERYONE in America, Democrat and Republican, MUST read this thread. This is what Pelosi killed the rescue package for. “Corporate diversity requirement,” “Airline carbon emissions,” and the list goes on. <br><br>Hold these people accountable. <br><br>They are holding America hostage. <a href="https://t.co/gJ5pyN1NFG">https://t.co/gJ5pyN1NFG</a></p>— Dan Crenshaw (@DanCrenshawTX) <a href="https://twitter.com/DanCrenshawTX/status/1242142362849116163?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

A new low for the demonrat party. Congrats! I knew you could do it.


If we.could only go old school..a little tar,some.feathers and a rail. bye bye.
 
To me the whole stimulus thing is a bit premature. The bill currently should only contain relief for those unemployed by this and those industries willing to
retool to produce the medical supplies needed by medical facilities and personnel to fight the disease.

When this plays out then another stimulus might be needed to jump start the economy. We won't know what that stimulus should contain, until we know what the damage to the economy eventually will be.

Im fine with them cutting people checks right now since they put in a mandatory lockdown...i am fine with zero intrest loans and tax waivers. i am not fine with them dishing out free money, but i am also not fine with the dems throwing garbage agenda things on either... **** your emissions and green energy... this isn’t the format for this...

And let me say this bill doesn’t help me at all.. I won’t get a dime... no industry i am involved in gets a dime...

Im just worried about my many food service worker friends.. they are ****** right now
 
Just wait for the teachers union to demand more money for teaching over the summer if schools resume in a month or so.
 
Well, at least Germany is taking measured, reasonable steps.

Germany: Borders are closed due to the coronavirus epidemic — except for migrants seeking asylum.

If you’re an American, British, French, or Swiss tourist who wants to take in some of the sights in Germany, you’ll have to wait a while before you can go because of the coronavirus (COVID-19) epidemic. But if you’re a migrant from Asia, the Middle East, or Africa who has entered Europe illegally? No problem!

Last week, Germany closed its land borders to all foreign citizens except for those providing essential services coming from France, Luxembourg, and Switzerland in an effort to slow the spread of the coronavirus. However, the German Ministry of the Interior has confirmed that “asylum-seekers” are still welcome in Germany in spite of the ban, according to a report by Junge Freiheit.

In practice, this means that if a migrant were to illegally enter the European Union’s Schengen Zone via Italy or Greece and make it to France or Switzerland, he can still demand asylum in Germany, and thus must be allowed to traverse these countries so that he can formally request it on German territory.

https://voiceofeurope.com/2020/03/g...the-coronavirus-epidemic-except-for-migrants/
 
#PelosiHatesAmericans is trending, lmao! That's what you get, you evil *****.

And the rotten apple doesn't fall very far from the tree:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rand Paul’s neighbor was right <a href="https://t.co/hjKjVq0Hwx">https://t.co/hjKjVq0Hwx</a></p>— Christine Pelosi (@sfpelosi) <a href="https://twitter.com/sfpelosi/status/1241871541597437952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Despite Dems in Congress being complete asshats, there's some more good news.

https://news.yahoo.com/why-nobel-laureate-predicts-quicker-210318391.html

Why this Nobel laureate predicts a quicker coronavirus recovery: 'We're going to be fine'

Michael Levitt, a Nobel laureate and Stanford biophysicist, began analyzing the number of COVID-19 cases worldwide in January and correctly calculated that China would get through the worst of its coronavirus outbreak long before many health experts had predicted.

Now he foresees a similar outcome in the United States and the rest of the world.

While many epidemiologists are warning of months, or even years, of massive social disruption and millions of deaths, Levitt says the data simply don't support such a dire scenario — especially in areas where reasonable social distancing measures are in place.

"What we need is to control the panic," he said. In the grand scheme, "we're going to be fine."

Here's what Levitt noticed in China: On Jan. 31, the country had 46 new deaths due to the novel coronavirus, compared with 42 new deaths the day before.

Although the number of daily deaths had increased, the rate of that increase had begun to ease off. In his view, the fact that new cases were being identified at a slower rate was more telling than the number of new cases itself. It was an early sign that the trajectory of the outbreak had shifted.

Think of the outbreak as a car racing down an open highway, he said. Although the car was still gaining speed, it's not accelerating as rapidly as before.

“This suggests that the rate of increase in number of the deaths will slow down even more over the next week,” Levitt wrote in a report he sent to friends Feb. 1 that was widely shared on Chinese social media. And soon, he predicted, the number of deaths would be decreasing every day.

Three weeks later, Levitt told the China Daily News that the virus' rate of growth had peaked. He predicted that the total number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in China would end up around 80,000, with about 3,250 deaths.

This forecast turned out to be remarkably accurate: As of March 16, China had counted a total of 80,298 cases and 3,245 deaths — in a nation of nearly 1.4 billion people where roughly 10 million die every year. The number of newly diagnosed patients has dropped to around 25 a day, with no cases of community spread reported since Wednesday.

Now Levitt, who received the 2013 Nobel Prize in chemistry for developing complex models of chemical systems, is seeing similar turning points in other nations, even ones that did not instill the draconian isolation measures that China did.

He analyzed data from 78 countries that reported more than 50 new cases of COVID-19 every day and sees "signs of recovery" in many of them. He's not focusing on the total number of cases in a country, but on the number of new cases identified every day — and especially on the percentage growth in that number from one day to the next.

"Numbers are still noisy but there are clear signs of slowed growth."

In Iran, for example, the number of newly confirmed COVID-19 cases remained relatively flat last week, going from 1,133 on Monday to 1,028 on Sunday. Although that's still a lot of new cases, the pattern suggests the outbreak there has reached a stable plateau, and is on the cusp of getting better.

Of course, recovering from an initial outbreak doesn't mean the virus won't come back: China is now fighting to stop new waves of infection coming in from places where the virus is spreading out of control. Other countries are bound to face the same problem as well.

Levitt acknowledges that his figures are messy, and that the official case counts in many areas are too low because testing is spotty. But even with incomplete data, "a consistent decline means there's some factor at work that is not just noise in the numbers," he said.

In other words, as long as the reasons for the inaccurate case counts remain the same, it's still useful to compare them from one day to the next.

The trajectory of deaths backs up his findings, he said, since it follows the same basic trends as the new confirmed cases. So do data from outbreaks in confined environments, such as the one on the Diamond Princess cruise ship. Out of 3,711 people on board, 712 were infected and eight died.

This unintended experiment in coronavirus spread will help researchers estimate the number of fatalities that would occur in a fully infected population, Levitt said. For instance, the Diamond Princess data allowed him to estimate that being exposed to the new coronavirus doubles a person's risk of dying in the next two months. Most people have an extremely low risk of death in a two-month period, so that risk remains extremely low even when doubled.

That doesn't mean complacency is acceptable. Levitt said the social-distancing mandates are critical — particularly the ban on large gatherings — because the virus is so new that the population has no immunity to it and a vaccine is still many months away. "This is not the time to go out drinking with your buddies."

Getting vaccinated against the flu is important because a coronavirus outbreak that strikes in the middle of a flu epidemic is much more likely to overwhelm hospitals and increases the odds that the coronavirus goes undetected. This was probably a factor in Italy, a country with a strong anti-vaccine movement, he said.

But he also blames the media for causing unnecessary panic by focusing on the relentless increase in the cumulative number of cases and spotlighting celebrities who contract the virus. By contrast, the flu has sickened 36 million Americans since September and killed an estimated 22,000, according to the CDC, but those deaths are largely unreported.

He fears the public health measures that have shut down large swaths of the economy could cause their own health catastrophe, as lost jobs lead to poverty and hopelessness. Time and again, researchers have seen that suicide rates go up when the economy spirals down.

The virus can grow exponentially only when it is undetected and no one is acting to control it, Levitt said. That's what happened in South Korea, when it ripped through a closed-off cult that refused to report the illness.

"People need to be considered heroes for announcing they have this virus," he said.

The goal needs to be better early detection — not just through testing but perhaps with body temperature surveillance, which China is implementing — and immediate social isolation.

While the COVID-19 fatality rate appears to be significantly higher than that of the flu, Levitt says it is quite simply put, "not the end of the world."

"The real situation is not as nearly as terrible as they make it out to be," he said.
 
I assume those are confirmed cases by testing? We know the CDC applies a multiplier to confirmed flu cases based upon those who confirmed have it, but don't enter the medical system. By similar applied metrics, it would seem the actual Covid cases are higher by whatever multiplier factor (X10, X12, X16, etc) than being reported by confirmed positives, which makes the death rate probably much lower than is being reported and used to spook people into compliance.

We're effectively shutting down civilization for a virus that has killed 12,000 worldwide thus far with the worst over in China. By contrast, more people have died of flu in the US (23,000) that have died of Corona in entire world. As bad as this may be pockets notwithstanding, the numbers aren't driving the public response. The agendas such as Event 201 and universal vaccine are and this is a shame.

Only though making people feel the "terror" and economic disruptions and mental distress of a virus that won't seriously affect most people, can the powers that be gain complete dominion over our health choices and what they inject into us. We're being herded into pens.

The social contract is about to be rewritten less along the lines of the Founders, and more along the lines of Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates.

No these are actual confirmed cases. You are nut job.
 
No these are actual confirmed cases. You are nut job.

Not sure what part of his post you're disagreeing with (likely the 201 ****), but there's nothing but logical reality to this part of his post:

"I assume those are confirmed cases by testing? We know the CDC applies a multiplier to confirmed flu cases based upon those who confirmed have it, but don't enter the medical system. By similar applied metrics, it would seem the actual Covid cases are higher by whatever multiplier factor (X10, X12, X16, etc) than being reported by confirmed positives, which makes the death rate probably much lower than is being reported and used to spook people into compliance.

We're effectively shutting down civilization for a virus that has killed 12,000 worldwide thus far with the worst over in China. By contrast, more people have died of flu in the US (23,000) that have died of Corona in entire world. As bad as this may be pockets notwithstanding, the numbers aren't driving the public response."
 
sorry I think this whole thing is bullshit. I don't know a single person who is sick. we shut down the entire country because of what?

Must....defeat...Donald....Trump.

James Carville: "It's the economy stupid."

Dems been rooting on MSM, publicly and privately for a recession.

VOILA!
 
sorry I think this whole thing is bullshit. I don't know a single person who is sick. we shut down the entire country because of what?

It's the black plague. We certainly need Joe Biden now to fix our economy through his extensive experience. He will also lead us in a reading of The Declaration of Independence since he didn't have any time in his 8 years as VP to learn it.
 
No these are actual confirmed cases. You are nut job.

Yes, confirmed by testing. When estimating flu cases, the CDC applies a multiplier to the number of confirmed cases to obtain an estimate of actual cases because not everyone who has the flu is confirmed to have it.

You should be asking yourself why the CDC is presenting the death rate as a factor of confirmed cases vs deaths? When they figure the flu death rate with a multiplier applied to confirmed cases because not everyone who has the flu presents for treatment. When the dust clears, the death rate will likely be comparable to or lower than the flu if calculated the same way way as the flu.

But, that won't gain as much impetus for a mandatory vaccine and Big $$$ for Big Pharma. It takes hysteria and instilled, collective psychological trauma for that.
 
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