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He doesn’t care about America. He is save in “his” country
Wow, congratulations Tibs. You managed to piss off one of the more typically polite & good-natured peeps I've encountered on this (or any) message board forum. May be time to take a good, hard look in the mirror.
Oh, but he does! (just ask him). Forget that he's silent or disappears when asked the last time he visited this country he loves so much.
https://covidtracking.com/data/us-daily
2nd straight day number of positive tests have gone down.
Tests - 57,543,852
Positive - 4,694,126
Negative - 52,849,726
Deaths - 147,653
2nd straight day number of positive tests have gone down.
Tests - 57,543,852
Positive - 4,694,126
Negative - 52,849,726
Deaths - 147,653
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That's great news. Let's hope it continues.
We need one more to that list. Recovered.
I wouldn’t know. He is blocked. Unfortunately I see when yinz quote him
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And I've been trolling the **** out of the troll today, lucky you. He's shown himself to be so pathetic though, I'm done.
I dunno, Nancy Pelosi is mad at her too so she must be doing something right.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/02/nancy-pelosi-deborah-birx-coronavirus
Nancy Pelosi says she has no confidence in Deborah Birx over handling of pandemic
House speaker Nancy Pelosi escalated an attack on Dr Deborah Birx, a senior scientist on Donald Trump’s coronavirus taskforce, in television comments on Sunday as Birx defended the administration’s handling of the pandemic.
Pelosi, the top Democrat in Congress, was asked on ABC’s This Week whether she has confidence in Birx, a renowned public health expert who has frequently appeared alongside Trump in briefings on the virus.
Birx risks reputation in bid to keep on Trump's good side
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“I think the president has been spreading disinformation about the virus and she is his appointee so, I don’t have confidence there, no,” Pelosi told ABC. However Pelosi praised another scientist on Trump’s task force, Dr Anthony Fauci.
Pelosi’s comments came as Birx made an appearance of her own on cable television, and warned that widespread coronavirus infections in urban and rural America mark a “new phase” for the pandemic in the US, as she doubled down on calls to wear face masks and observe social distancing.
“What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread,” she said.
The United States has the world’s largest number of cases at 4.6m, or one-quarter of the global total, and 154,361 deaths. Birx said mitigation efforts across the west and the south are beginning to work but warned that people need to take the virus seriously and employ significant safety precautions when cases first begin to tick up.
Pelosi’s comments built on a report last week that she criticized Birx to Republican counterparts negotiating a new coronavirus relief package.
“Deborah Birx is the worst. Wow, what horrible hands you’re in,” Pelosi said, according to Politico.
Birx, an infectious disease expert specializing in HIV/Aids, was accused in a New York Times story last month of providing internal support and scientific cover for the White House’s unrealistic view of how well its virus response was going.
“She was a constant source of upbeat news for the president and his aides, walking the halls with charts emphasizing that outbreaks were gradually easing,” the Times reported, describing “a critical period beginning in mid-April”.
Birx rebutted that characterization on Sunday.
“This was not a pollyannish view,” Birx told CNN’s State of the Union of the advice she gave the president. “I’ve never been called pollyannish, or non-scientific, or non-data driven. I will stake my 40-year career on those fundamental principles of using data to implement better programs and save lives.”
Birx has come under fire for what critics regard as excessive hesitancy in her public statements to knock down misleading information about the coronavirus and its spread, much of which has been peddled by Trump himself.
Birx has also participated in two of the most infamous public moments of Trump spreading misleading information about the virus. In March she helped Trump tout a nonexistent Google site to coordinate Covid-19 testing. And in April she sat in the White House briefing room as the president announced that she was going to test a treatment involving “light inside of the body”.
“I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way,” Trump said, speaking directly to Birx. “And I think you said you’re going to test that, too.”
Birx did not speak up to contradict him. Trump’s daily briefings on the virus were abruptly canceled after the outing, but were revived again last month.
In her Sunday television appearance, Birx did contradict Trump, however, breaking with his insistence that schools reopen in the fall. She said she agreed with guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) that school districts with a test positivity rate of 5% for Covid-19 should not hold in-person classes.
“If you have high case load and active community spread, just like we’re asking people not to go to bars, not to have house parties, not to have large spreading events, we’re asking people to distance learn at this moment so we can get this epidemic under control,” Birx said on CNN.
US Covid testing has been a historic catastrophe. Is Trump’s testing tsar Brett Giroir to blame?
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The debate, in any case, is academic. Birx did not mention that the country does not have enough testing with tight enough turnaround to get an accurate read on Covid-19 prevalence in most school districts, making the federal guidelines moot.
The official in charge of that failure, testing czar Adm Brett Giroir, declined on Sunday to call for a national mandate for wearing facial masks in public, explaining that such a mandate could backfire.
“You really need to have mask-wearing at a very high degree,” Giroir said on NBC’s Meet the Press. “There’s a debate whether a mandate is an affirmative thing.
“The public health message is, we’ve got to have mask-wearing.”
Nancy Pelosi says she has no confidence in Deborah Birx over handling of pandemic
House speaker Nancy Pelosi escalated an attack on Dr Deborah Birx, a senior scientist on Donald Trump’s coronavirus taskforce, in television comments on Sunday as Birx defended the administration’s handling of the pandemic.
Pelosi, the top Democrat in Congress, was asked on ABC’s This Week whether she has confidence in Birx, a renowned public health expert who has frequently appeared alongside Trump in briefings on the virus.
Birx risks reputation in bid to keep on Trump's good side
Read more
“I think the president has been spreading disinformation about the virus and she is his appointee so, I don’t have confidence there, no,” Pelosi told ABC. However Pelosi praised another scientist on Trump’s task force, Dr Anthony Fauci.
Pelosi’s comments came as Birx made an appearance of her own on cable television, and warned that widespread coronavirus infections in urban and rural America mark a “new phase” for the pandemic in the US, as she doubled down on calls to wear face masks and observe social distancing.
“What we are seeing today is different from March and April. It is extraordinarily widespread,” she said.
The United States has the world’s largest number of cases at 4.6m, or one-quarter of the global total, and 154,361 deaths. Birx said mitigation efforts across the west and the south are beginning to work but warned that people need to take the virus seriously and employ significant safety precautions when cases first begin to tick up.
Pelosi’s comments built on a report last week that she criticized Birx to Republican counterparts negotiating a new coronavirus relief package.
“Deborah Birx is the worst. Wow, what horrible hands you’re in,” Pelosi said, according to Politico.
Birx, an infectious disease expert specializing in HIV/Aids, was accused in a New York Times story last month of providing internal support and scientific cover for the White House’s unrealistic view of how well its virus response was going.
“She was a constant source of upbeat news for the president and his aides, walking the halls with charts emphasizing that outbreaks were gradually easing,” the Times reported, describing “a critical period beginning in mid-April”.
Birx rebutted that characterization on Sunday.
“This was not a pollyannish view,” Birx told CNN’s State of the Union of the advice she gave the president. “I’ve never been called pollyannish, or non-scientific, or non-data driven. I will stake my 40-year career on those fundamental principles of using data to implement better programs and save lives.”
Birx has come under fire for what critics regard as excessive hesitancy in her public statements to knock down misleading information about the coronavirus and its spread, much of which has been peddled by Trump himself.
Birx has also participated in two of the most infamous public moments of Trump spreading misleading information about the virus. In March she helped Trump tout a nonexistent Google site to coordinate Covid-19 testing. And in April she sat in the White House briefing room as the president announced that she was going to test a treatment involving “light inside of the body”.
“I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way,” Trump said, speaking directly to Birx. “And I think you said you’re going to test that, too.”
Birx did not speak up to contradict him. Trump’s daily briefings on the virus were abruptly canceled after the outing, but were revived again last month.
In her Sunday television appearance, Birx did contradict Trump, however, breaking with his insistence that schools reopen in the fall. She said she agreed with guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) that school districts with a test positivity rate of 5% for Covid-19 should not hold in-person classes.
“If you have high case load and active community spread, just like we’re asking people not to go to bars, not to have house parties, not to have large spreading events, we’re asking people to distance learn at this moment so we can get this epidemic under control,” Birx said on CNN.
US Covid testing has been a historic catastrophe. Is Trump’s testing tsar Brett Giroir to blame?
Read more
The debate, in any case, is academic. Birx did not mention that the country does not have enough testing with tight enough turnaround to get an accurate read on Covid-19 prevalence in most school districts, making the federal guidelines moot.
The official in charge of that failure, testing czar Adm Brett Giroir, declined on Sunday to call for a national mandate for wearing facial masks in public, explaining that such a mandate could backfire.
“You really need to have mask-wearing at a very high degree,” Giroir said on NBC’s Meet the Press. “There’s a debate whether a mandate is an affirmative thing.
“The public health message is, we’ve got to have mask-wearing.”
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Wasn't Tibs just ranting only yesterday that Trump has no respect for Dr. Birx which was just more proof that he's a bad person? Huh......
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Yeah, you're a pretty decent troll, not bad. I always figured you were a troll, nice to have you come out and confirm it.
At the minimum, your trolling has become more frequent, so you have quantity & frequency going for you, even if you come up a bit short on quality. Can't have everything, when you're a troll.
The board has a decent number of right-wing trolls, I think you're in the top-15 or so at this stage. That can change, if you keep working at it.
But congrats, overall you're doing a fine job.
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Well, at least we have competent leadership in place to handle this. /sic
Who in the WH thought this was a good idea, to have Trump sit down with a pro's pro like Jonathan Swan? Yikes. Trump is truly a mess. These charts look like something you'd give a 5-year old.
<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jonathanvswan</a>: “Oh, you’re doing death as a proportion of cases. I’m talking about death as a proportion of population. That’s where the U.S. is really bad. Much worse than South Korea, Germany, etc.”<a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realdonaldtrump</a>: “You can’t do that.”<br><br>Swan: “Why can’t I do that?” <a href="https://t.co/MStySfkV39">pic.twitter.com/MStySfkV39</a></p>— Axios (@axios) <a href="https://twitter.com/axios/status/1290497186489348096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
Who in the WH thought this was a good idea, to have Trump sit down with a pro's pro like Jonathan Swan? Yikes. Trump is truly a mess. These charts look like something you'd give a 5-year old.
<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jonathanvswan</a>: “Oh, you’re doing death as a proportion of cases. I’m talking about death as a proportion of population. That’s where the U.S. is really bad. Much worse than South Korea, Germany, etc.”<a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realdonaldtrump</a>: “You can’t do that.”<br><br>Swan: “Why can’t I do that?” <a href="https://t.co/MStySfkV39">pic.twitter.com/MStySfkV39</a></p>— Axios (@axios) <a href="https://twitter.com/axios/status/1290497186489348096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
And now some more facts for the sheep. Hungarian geldings included.
The US Population is 330,000,000 and in 5 months the number of deaths was 130,000. The number of deaths as a percent of the population is 0.03939 %, compared to the number of cancer cases diagnosed in 2019 (1,762,450) and 607,000 deaths.
This doesn’t seem far fetched because it is happening before our eyes.
A very well orchestrated plan, or a unimaginable set of events that just fell into place ... with the United States front and center. You tell me!!
Scare people with a virus, force them to wear masks and place them in quarantine.
Count the number of dead every second of every day, in every News Headline. By the way, ninety-nine and eight-tenths of the people who get the virus, recover. About one to two tenths of one percent who get the virus, die. Most all of them have other medical problems. Did you catch that ? Less than 1/2 of a percent die.
Close businesses = 35,000,000+ instantly unemployed.
Remove entertainment and prohibit Recreation; Closing parks, gyms, bars, restaurants, sports.
No dating. No touching. Isolate people. Dehumanize them.
Close Temples and Churches, prohibit worship. Create a vacuum and let depression, anxiety, hopelessness and desperation set in.
Then... ignite hatred and civil unrest, creating Civil War.
Empty the prisons because of the virus and fill the streets with criminals.
Send in Antifa to vandalize property, as if they are freedom fighters. Undermine the law, Riot, Loot and Attack all Law Enforcement, but tell government to order a stand-down.
Then... Defund Law Enforcement and abolish Police. We are all being played by those who want to destroy America! This is how you destroy a nation from within, and in very short order. Will it work? I guess that depends on you and me.
The US Population is 330,000,000 and in 5 months the number of deaths was 130,000. The number of deaths as a percent of the population is 0.03939 %, compared to the number of cancer cases diagnosed in 2019 (1,762,450) and 607,000 deaths.
This doesn’t seem far fetched because it is happening before our eyes.
A very well orchestrated plan, or a unimaginable set of events that just fell into place ... with the United States front and center. You tell me!!
Scare people with a virus, force them to wear masks and place them in quarantine.
Count the number of dead every second of every day, in every News Headline. By the way, ninety-nine and eight-tenths of the people who get the virus, recover. About one to two tenths of one percent who get the virus, die. Most all of them have other medical problems. Did you catch that ? Less than 1/2 of a percent die.
Close businesses = 35,000,000+ instantly unemployed.
Remove entertainment and prohibit Recreation; Closing parks, gyms, bars, restaurants, sports.
No dating. No touching. Isolate people. Dehumanize them.
Close Temples and Churches, prohibit worship. Create a vacuum and let depression, anxiety, hopelessness and desperation set in.
Then... ignite hatred and civil unrest, creating Civil War.
Empty the prisons because of the virus and fill the streets with criminals.
Send in Antifa to vandalize property, as if they are freedom fighters. Undermine the law, Riot, Loot and Attack all Law Enforcement, but tell government to order a stand-down.
Then... Defund Law Enforcement and abolish Police. We are all being played by those who want to destroy America! This is how you destroy a nation from within, and in very short order. Will it work? I guess that depends on you and me.
We have a serious problem in this Country, when people like this are taken seriously.
People like this are put in charge of our police force
and people like this are sent to represent us in Congress
We get what we deserve
People like this are put in charge of our police force
and people like this are sent to represent us in Congress
We get what we deserve
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Hey Indy, could you do us all a favor and bold that and maybe put it in even larger font? Don't think anyone will be able to read such tiny text. Also, if you quote something, it's common practice to put it in qoutes and cite your sources, so we can determine which alt-right blog you're posting from. Thanks, appreciate it champ.
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Daily update on Trump's wonder drug, hydroxychloroquine. "It's just false hope, something for the people to believe in, kind of like a placebo."
<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The US donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil, but the shipment has been mostly sitting in storage in the Brazilian megacity of São Paulo, sources tell CNN. One former health minister believes they may eventually have to be destroyed.<a href="https://t.co/mbEqV2Uv77">https://t.co/mbEqV2Uv77</a> <a href="https://t.co/pUyJq6WUQm">pic.twitter.com/pUyJq6WUQm</a></p>— New Day (@NewDay) <a href="https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/1290636856716140549?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The US donated 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine to Brazil, but the shipment has been mostly sitting in storage in the Brazilian megacity of São Paulo, sources tell CNN. One former health minister believes they may eventually have to be destroyed.<a href="https://t.co/mbEqV2Uv77">https://t.co/mbEqV2Uv77</a> <a href="https://t.co/pUyJq6WUQm">pic.twitter.com/pUyJq6WUQm</a></p>— New Day (@NewDay) <a href="https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/1290636856716140549?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 4, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
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The amount of idiocy you bring to this board is unequal. I swear to god sometimes it's so clear you see ****, say "Oooh, Oooh, Oooh this will piss them off!" and without thought you throw **** up here without analysis.
Use some simple logic Fibs....
1. This comes from the Chinese News Network (CNN)...there couldn't possibly be any misinformation or political angle to their post, rrriiiggghhht??
2. Chinese News Network suggests that Brazil may destroy 2 million doses of hydroxychloroquine....have you critically thought about this?? Hydroxychloroquine has been around since 1955 - a widely used, useful drug for multiple conditions. I know you Liberals all think Trump made it in his super secret lab in the basement...but no. Hydroxychloroquine is used and has been for 65 years for malaria, and auto-immune diseases like lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. Besides the fact it is used to treat other conditions, look at this image Fibs:
So you're telling me that you believe China News Network's claim that Brazil will throw away 2 million doses of a drug that treats malaria....which is readily contractible in Brazil????? Or that they have no residents that suffer lupus and rheumatoid arthritis??
Or is it possible CNN is once again creating hack, lying, bullshit pieces to attack the President in their never-ending coup attempt?
Classic. Just classic.
Think...with your brain...Fibs.
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So Tim, I see you're now referencing hydroxychloroquine as a 'malaria drug,' which it is.
Indeed, your entire post is about possible future use of the drug for malaria - not COVID - in Brazil.
At least we're getting somewhere. It's a start.
Obviously a country like Brazil would have ample malaria medication already on stock. Not sure what the shelf life of hydroxychloroquine is, but they're probably not going to need millions and millions of new pills they've just acquired, thanks to Bolsonaro & Trump.
And it wasn't CNN, or the Chinese, saying the excess stock will probably be destroyed, but the former top health official in Brazil.
Indeed, your entire post is about possible future use of the drug for malaria - not COVID - in Brazil.
At least we're getting somewhere. It's a start.
Obviously a country like Brazil would have ample malaria medication already on stock. Not sure what the shelf life of hydroxychloroquine is, but they're probably not going to need millions and millions of new pills they've just acquired, thanks to Bolsonaro & Trump.
And it wasn't CNN, or the Chinese, saying the excess stock will probably be destroyed, but the former top health official in Brazil.
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Dipshit...I've never referenced hydroxychloroquine as anything other than it's name.
To use your inept attempt to paint someone in a corner,
Hydroxychloroquine is a lupus drug. Factual statement.
Hydroxychloroquine is a rheumatoid arthritis drug. Factual statement.
Hydroxychloroquine is a malaria drug. Factual statement.
Hydroxychloroquine has been shown to be effective in the treatment of some COVID patients. Factual statement.
The point is to call fraud on CNN's bullshit claim that Brazil will simply throw away a useful drug and lying CNN is at it again and you're spreading misinformation again.
Why would a country throw away a drug that EVEN if they believed wouldn't treat COVID COULD be used to treat other conditions they persistently have to treat in their country....?????????
They wouldn't. I'll answer the question for you. So the claim that Brazil will simply throw away a useful drug is bullshit.
Next attempt Fibs.
(glad I caught your original post above in quotes before you could edit your post #8322 above after the fact, trying to appear to have already covered my objections. LMAO...fail.). Guaranteed until I posted the map above, you probably weren't even aware malaria was in South America. Christ almighty.
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Tim, some of your comments are so dumb, I won't even respond to them. Par course, for you.
I know your tin foil hat is screwed on tightly, but maybe look around a little and research a given topic before you start spewing your bullshit conspiracy theories.
If you would have made even a nominal attempt to find out what's happening in Brazil with Bolsonaro, you would've realized this wasn't a 'fake news' CNN story, like your papa Trump likes to preach about at bedtime.
I know your tin foil hat is screwed on tightly, but maybe look around a little and research a given topic before you start spewing your bullshit conspiracy theories.
If you would have made even a nominal attempt to find out what's happening in Brazil with Bolsonaro, you would've realized this wasn't a 'fake news' CNN story, like your papa Trump likes to preach about at bedtime.