The Coronavirus thread

[Steelworth]

You would think the idea that we may have 90% false positives as far as people who are infectious would be huge headlines splashed across the main page of every media outlet.

But it isn't.

I don't know if it's already been posted, but look at this, directly from the CDC:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Table 3 of the CDC’s data on deaths between 2/1 and 8/22 2020 says directly that only 6% of the 161,392 reported COVID deaths were listed as COVID-19 alone, just 9,684. All other US deaths had, on average, 2.6 additional conditions. <a href="https://t.co/HOmCjblJ8W">https://t.co/HOmCjblJ8W</a> <a href="https://t.co/CgZQhaWI9H">pic.twitter.com/CgZQhaWI9H</a></p>— Brian Wesbury (@wesbury) <a href="https://twitter.com/wesbury/status/1300073924189777920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Steelworth]

Also the early prediction was that it would kill 2.5 million people.

It's starting to look like Covid alone killed less than 10,000 people. The comorbidities list includes people with Alzheimer's, myocardial infarction, septicemia etc.

This is the Twilight Zone.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

It's starting to look like Covid alone killed less than 10,000 people. The comorbidities list includes people with Alzheimer's, myocardial infarction, septicemia etc.

This is the Twilight Zone.

Well, the good news is that no one died this year from the seasonal flu, cardiac arrest, cancer, stroke, well essentially nothing else besides Covid.

 

[Steelworth]

Well, the good news is that no one died this year from the seasonal flu, cardiac arrest, cancer, stroke, well essentially nothing else besides Covid.

I see the fearmongers are already out in full force because of this 'development' exclaiming that "Covid causes organ damage though!". I've never heard of a respiratory virus causing significant damage to organs unless the person has some pretty severe existing comorbidities. Zona, in your past experience or knowing experience from others in the medical profession, has a respiratory virus ever caused significant organ damage on its own?

Straight from John's Hopkins:

“Many patients with severe COVID-19 are those with co-existing, chronic conditions, including high blood pressure and diabetes. Both of these increase the risk of kidney disease,” Sperati says.

 

[Steelworth]

This is the official list of Covid symptoms:

Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19:

Fever or chills
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
New loss of taste or smell
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea

Official list of Influenza A symptoms:

Fever or chills
Cough
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Shortness of breath
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
Swollen lymph nodes

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

At my work we had 15/60 staff test positive on the same day. Only 1 was legit and she was exposed at a Dr. Office. Both her and her young daughter did get very sick, but on recovering. We have had over 30 staff test positive and only 2 were sick. Everyone else immediately restested negative 2x. We have also have had 0 residents sick. There is definitely something off with the testing, but my company has like 12 nursing homes and we all used the same lab / test and we are the only ones with issues. Definitely very odd.

I have 100s of buildings. Because of mandated testing, employees are forced out and the vast majority are not positive because of failed testing. It’s the ridiculous push to test everyone, all the time has made these tests pointless. “All just to drive the narrative.”

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

You would think the idea that we may have 90% false positives as far as people who are infectious would be huge headlines splashed across the main page of every media outlet.

But it isn't.

Nah. People don’t wanna bear positive hence why we never hear recovery rates and other positive numbers

 

[Steelworth]

This is the official list of Covid symptoms:

Symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus. People with these symptoms may have COVID-19:

Fever or chills
Cough
Shortness of breath or difficulty breathing
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
New loss of taste or smell
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea

Official list of Influenza A symptoms:

Fever or chills
Cough
Fatigue
Muscle or body aches
Headache
Sore throat
Congestion or runny nose
Shortness of breath
Nausea or vomiting
Diarrhea
Swollen lymph nodes

I'd like to take this time to apologize to the people that said this was basically a variant of the flu all along. What a scandal of epic/historical proportions.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

I'd like to take this time to apologize to the people that said this was basically a variant of the flu all along. What a scandal of epic/historical proportions.

Yr from now when you doing “normal ****” ....yo steel you don’t look good, yeah I got that chinesevirus again”. Ahh man better get some Tylenol PM

 

[jitter77]

I have 100s of buildings. Because of mandated testing, employees are forced out and the vast majority are not positive because of failed testing. It’s the ridiculous push to test everyone, all the time has made these tests pointless. “All just to drive the narrative.”

We have to have 2 weeks w/o a positive to move out of mandatory testing and to go into the reopening plan. We are just stuck in a never ending cycle. Our corp lady talks to the excella health system and they were mentioning CMS is kicking around mandatory at least weekly testing for nursing home staff for the foreseeable future. They released 200+ pages of guidelines last week, but I didnt read them yet and I may never.....

 

[Steelworth]

And I'd like to clarify that I'm not doubting it's a serious virus, on par with probably the more intense Influenza B strain but with even more respiratory distress, but the politicization of it and shutting down our very way of life because of it is a travesty.

Like people have been saying all along, why haven't these draconian measures ever been taken for the flu (especially when it was really bad in late 2018) or when other viruses came along? Obvious now that's a rhetorical question.

 

[Steelworth]

We have to have 2 weeks w/o a positive to move out of mandatory testing and to go into the reopening plan. We are just stuck in a never ending cycle. Our corp lady talks to the excella health system and they were mentioning CMS is kicking around mandatory at least weekly testing for nursing home staff for the foreseeable future.

I feel for you jitter. What a clusterfuck. I feel for all of the front line medical people dealing with all of this red tape and half-truths and all of the worried-sick moms who've been losing their minds thinking their children could die at any moment.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

We have to have 2 weeks w/o a positive to move out of mandatory testing and to go into the reopening plan. We are just stuck in a never ending cycle. Our corp lady talks to the excella health system and they were mentioning CMS is kicking around mandatory at least weekly testing for nursing home staff for the foreseeable future. They released 200+ pages of guidelines last week, but I didnt read them yet and I may never.....

Actually there is more to it, well to open but “more importantly” allowing family to see their loved ones. “Your centers numbers and community spread in your centers county” will allow visitation. Obviously, both must be low. The BS of all it now is it’s all coming from the outside, ie Staff. AND AnD 50-80 plus percent is bc of false testing.

How ****** up is that? I mean yes we must keep it out as this group is the most at risk but damn.....no haircuts, no visitors, can leave...etc. I bet you take a poll, we all love them, I bet a high percent want there freedoms back over the risk of getting it. Cough cough. Sound familiar to those that ain’t at risk

 

[Stoney]

We have to have 2 weeks w/o a positive to move out of mandatory testing and to go into the reopening plan. We are just stuck in a never ending cycle. Our corp lady talks to the excella health system and they were mentioning CMS is kicking around mandatory at least weekly testing for nursing home staff for the foreseeable future. They released 200+ pages of guidelines last week, but I didnt read them yet and I may never.....

Interesting. So one false positive guarantees the testing company two more weeks of testing revenue. This could go on forever.

 

[Steelworth]

Small town school teachers aren't for the most part. We start back Monday, 5 days a week and we all couldn't be more happy to be back. All the schools in this area are in the same boat from what I can tell. Everyone I know thinks the demands of those teacher unions in the media are disgusting and ridiculous.

Yeah, there are so many good teachers still out there (and thank you, Vader & whoever else I might've forgot). But like everything else nowadays, the lowest common denominator gets all of the attention.

 

[tapeANaspirin2it]

I think that the world freaked out initially, but then within a month or so, those truly in charge did know that covid was not as deadly as they were saying. Sure, it was deadly to the elderly and those with other diseases, but not to the general public, at least not in a significant percentage. The true numbers are showing that.

I believe that within a month or so, those in power started using this to advance various agendas. For the socialist, it's obvious. It's straight out of Cloward Piven, overwhelm the system to break it and then offer socialism as the only solution. For the tech industry, it's obvios as well. People stay home and must rely on new technology for work and entertainment.

It's also a plus for big businesses. Sure there may be some short term losses, but short term losses are worth it to put smaller competitors out of business. It's the old Standard Oil strategy. Sell oil at a loss, until that small local oil company goes out of business trying to match. Walmart will be just fine, but how many smaller retailers have declared bankruptcy and will never be back again?

They tell us masks stop the virus, so it's OK to have thousands of protestors jammed shoulder to shoulder. OK, then why can't we go see a football game with masks on? We can pit on a mask on go shopping every weekend but we need mail in votes because voting in person is dangerous.

We are being handled. I honestly don't know how anybody can deny it at this point.

 

[Ironcitysteelers]

Day 1 of online school bs today for my 11yr old.




So mad she isn’t in a classroom.

 

[SojournerSteel]

I think that the world freaked out initially, but then within a month or so, those truly in charge did know that covid was not as deadly as they were saying. Sure, it was deadly to the elderly and those with other diseases, but not to the general public, at least not in a significant percentage. The true numbers are showing that.

I believe that within a month or so, those in power started using this to advance various agendas. For the socialist, it's obvious. It's straight out of Cloward Piven, overwhelm the system to break it and then offer socialism as the only solution. For the tech industry, it's obvios as well. People stay home and must rely on new technology for work and entertainment.

It's also a plus for big businesses. Sure there may be some short term losses, but short term losses are worth it to put smaller competitors out of business. It's the old Standard Oil strategy. Sell oil at a loss, until that small local oil company goes out of business trying to match. Walmart will be just fine, but how many smaller retailers have declared bankruptcy and will never be back again?

They tell us masks stop the virus, so it's OK to have thousands of protestors jammed shoulder to shoulder. OK, then why can't we go see a football game with masks on? We can pit on a mask on go shopping every weekend but we need mail in votes because voting in person is dangerous.

We are being handled. I honestly don't know how anybody can deny it at this point.

Thanks for the Cloward-Piven Strategy reference. That explains so much and is always their blueprint whether it's letting Healthcare or the Border go to hell.

 

[Superman]

Also the early prediction was that it would kill 2.5 million people.

Flog will be here soon to ridicule your maths and ignorance of how to carry a one.

 

[Superman]

Interesting. So one false positive guarantees the testing company two more weeks of testing revenue. This could go on forever.

would also be interesting to see the political donations of these companies who create the tests and those who perform the testing.

 

[IndySteel]

I just had a Zoom meeting with a company in South Africa. Their horseshit covid shutdown was serious. They couldn't buy alcohol or tobacco during most of it. I'd kill a mf'er.

 

[jitter77]

Actually there is more to it, well to open but “more importantly” allowing family to see their loved ones. “Your centers numbers and community spread in your centers county” will allow visitation. Obviously, both must be low. The BS of all it now is it’s all coming from the outside, ie Staff. AND AnD 50-80 plus percent is bc of false testing.

How ****** up is that? I mean yes we must keep it out as this group is the most at risk but damn.....no haircuts, no visitors, can leave...etc. I bet you take a poll, we all love them, I bet a high percent want there freedoms back over the risk of getting it. Cough cough. Sound familiar to those that ain’t at risk

well we had built a visitor box. resident would sit inside and we used baby monitors for communication. families loved it and we were booked solid. However with the positive tests we had to put the building in yellow and not allow visits again. Now we are back to just FaceTime which sucks. I know we are tied to the county and there are some fine details, but if we ever get 2 clean weeks we think we can go right into phase 2 which i believe is limited dining and some group activities, outside visits, etc etc... The crappy part is even if people test double negative immediately after the positive the testing cycle still resets which doesn't make sense. IMO if you get double negatives right away you probably weren't really positive to begin with

 

[21STEELERS21]

The main problem is not having accurate data on how many have actually had the virus in the US. If you take worldometer stats at face value, this is a
very deadly virus. As of this morning they show 6,182,376 cases of the virus in US, 3,426,290 recoveries 95%, and 187,368 deaths 5%. So if all 330 million
citizens got the virus and 95% recovered, 16,500,000 would die at the current death rate.

 

[Steelr4evr]

Only 1885 new cases reported today in florida. Yesterday was a little over 2500 with 15 deaths,68 deaths today.

About 80% of all deaths have been with underlying conditions.

Went to wal mart yesterday. No less than 500 people at a time in the store. All masked up. Yep we can vote in person no problem. At the rate this is dropping they're going to need an uptick in riots and destruction.

 

[Steeler Pride]

The main problem is not having accurate data on how many have actually had the virus in the US. If you take worldometer stats at face value, this is a
very deadly virus. As of this morning they show 6,182,376 cases of the virus in US, 3,426,290 recoveries 95%, and 187,368 deaths 5%. So if all 330 million
citizens got the virus and 95% recovered, 16,500,000 would die at the current death rate.

That logic is only accurate if the virus kills everyone equally...that has not been even remotely close to accurate anywhere in the world. The mortality rate for those under the age of 50 is almost a statistical 0. So, no, 16 million would not die if everyone in the US were to contract the virus.