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The Coronavirus thread

Excellent summation of where we are this Memorial Day weekend. Kudos to Jim Acosta for being brutally honest, as usual. (y)

 
Tibs is one of the three people that bought Acosta's last book. LOL.
Didn't know he published a book. Will definitely check it out, thanks for the reccomendation. (y)
 
Excellent summation of where we are this Memorial Day weekend.

We? You're in Hungary, you wet brain syndrome-suffering little troll.

And Abilio Acosta (😂), another true American Patriot like Avenatti?
 
Didn't know he published a book. Will definitely check it out, thanks for the reccomendation. (y)

So you know 'journalists and diplomats' and take this guy's word as gospel, but you didn't know he published a book?

Chalk that up to another embarrassing loss, akin to Avenatti and the D-Day boys.
 
"...serious case of herd stupidity as the far right waged a war against science." Classic. No wonder Steelworth has a chapped hide, that's gotta sting. Rub a little ointment on it. I hope your little boo-boo feels better soon. :cry:
 
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Weak sauce. But that's about a shocking as you being a tax-paying American.
 
"...serious case of herd stupidity as the far right waged a war against science." Classic. No wonder Steelworth has a chapped hide, that's gotta sting. Rub a little ointment on it. I hope your little boo-boo feels better soon. :cry:
Are you seriously trying to use Acosta to make an argument? Come on man! You are trolling yourself now.
 
Are you seriously trying to use Acosta to make an argument? Come on man! You are trolling yourself now.

Eh......the troll was able to find a Leftist loony to say intelligent people railed against the science. The 59-genders science that is. Their ideology.

It is their side that has hung on to the outdated science from 2020. The science of social distancing came from a science fair, for instance.

It is their side that refuses to listen to updated science today. Because it proves their ideology wrong.

Even as the exact same organizations, like the CDC, roll back on their former stances....Leftist loonies remain entrenched with the outdated science. Frightening.

Flat earthers, the lot of them.
 
I was told, nay assured by Tibs and HypoFlog that people who thought the virus came from the Wuhan lab were tin-foil hat-wearing conspiracists.

Not once, but for well over a year. Despite laying out logical reasoning and supporting documentation, they assured us we were crazy. That this was all like Hillary's emails and Hunter's laptop.

Now, the next predictable spin will be that British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen aren't real doctors, Fox News is a kook network, the REAL 59-genders of scientists told us 15 months ago that this came from a bat (new evidence be damned), and we are all flat earthers.

Please note how academics and medical journals wouldn't listen to them (part of the world-wide network of "science" attempting to silence voices of dissent).

Like the evidence on masking and lockdowns, this house of cards is also crumbling.


A bombshell new study claims to have proof that Chinese scientists created COVID-19 in a lab and then tried to reverse-engineer versions of the virus to make it look like it evolved naturally from bats.

British Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen wrote they’ve had primary evidence "of retro-engineering in China" since last year, but were ignored by academics and major medical journals...

The study concludes: "the likelihood of it being the result of natural processes is very small." ...


Dalgleish is a London oncology professor known for breakthrough work on a vaccine for HIV. Sørensen is a virologist and chair of the pharmaceutical company Immunor, which developed a coronavirus vaccine candidate called Biovacc-19. Dalgleish also has a financial stake in that company.

It was during their COVID-19 vaccine research that the pair came across "unique fingerprints" indicating the virus didn’t come from nature, they said. The telltale clue: a rare finding in the COVID-carrying virus of a row of four amino acids, which give off a positive charge and bond to negative human cells.

"The laws of physics mean that you cannot have four positively charged amino acids in a row," Dalgleish told the Daily Mail. "The only way you can get this is if you artificially manufacture it."

They also tracked published Chinese research, some done working with American universities, to show how the tools to create the virus were allegedly built. A good part of the work reviewed involved "gain of function" research, which involves manipulating natural viruses in a lab to make them more infectious, allowing scientists to study their potential effect on humans.

The U.S. put a moratorium on such research in 2014. But it’s impossible to know if $600,000 funding for medical research in China was used for gain of function research, Dr. Anthony Fauci told Congress last week.
 
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What's next Tim? Say Covid fully - or even partially - got out from a lab, that's how it got to the wet market in Wuhan and began spreading from there. What does that change, in your view, regarding everything that's gone down since then? Given the number of 'corona' viruses that have existed, and will surely exist in the future. How does this put the genie back in the bottle regarding how Trump lied his *** off for months, how he mocked mask wearing, how he downsized the US pandemic response team? How does this change the fact that 3.5M people died from this worldwide, over 600k in the US alone? What is the end game here? Drop a few nukes on China?
 
Excellent summation of where we are this Memorial Day weekend. Kudos to Jim Acosta for being brutally honest, as usual. (y)


Fauci is probably the singular person most responsible for the mistrust in science in this country. From initially telling us this virus was nothing we should be worried about and saying travel bans weren't necessary, to saying masks didn't work and could even spread the virus more before reversing himself, to the colossally stupid decision to tell people nothing would change after they got vaccinated and they would still need to wear masks and socially distance which is responsible for probably half of the vaccine resistance in this country. Rand Paul was absolutely right that Fauci wearing two masks after vaccination was nothing but theatre, and scientists should NEVER be in the business of performing for a political agenda. He lost all credibility.

Did Trump say some stupid things? You bet. But Fauci is supposed to be the scientist, not Trump. And he's been wrong and spread half-truths more than anyone.
 
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What's next Tim? Say Covid fully - or even partially - got out from a lab, that's how it got to the wet market in Wuhan and began spreading from there. What does that change, in your view, regarding everything that's gone down since then? Given the number of 'corona' viruses that have existed, and will surely exist in the future. How does this put the genie back in the bottle regarding how Trump lied his *** off for months, how he mocked mask wearing, how he downsized the US pandemic response team? How does this change the fact that 3.5M people died from this worldwide, over 600k in the US alone? What is the end game here? Drop a few nukes on China?

What's next?? It matters where the virus originated. IT MATTERS. It matters that our Government may have indirectly but directly funded it. It matters that Fauci's organization and his finger prints are on it. It matters that this was a bio-terror weapon engineered with gain of function to kill human beings. It matters that it escaped the lab.

It did not come from the wet market. See the links I provided above, educate yourself.

It changes everything. It should change the scrutiny on our Federal Government, on our funding, who it goes to and why. It SHOULD change our relations with China, but as long as this criminal is our President and is beholden to Xi, it won't change. Our greatest global enemy is China, and if it is found that this escaped from their labs, it is a sign of war, given their massive cover up.

It should change how we look at the WHO and other global organizations that have backed and covered for China. It is a massive game changer and we should know where it comes from.

Your side and you, for obvious reasons, don't want the answers. You want to blame Trump.

And please stop spreading disinformation. Fauci mocked mask wearing. Fauci said the US had nothing to worry about. Trump followed their lead. And given what we know about masking now, seems Trump was right.

Trump didn't downsize the response team, he mobilized the greatest response we have ever seen, having companies re-tool manufacturing to enable mass production of PPE that Obama left us without, to mass produce ventilators (that we never needed), to rapidly and massively enable nation-wide testing, and to do the unheard of - develop vaccines in less than 10 months, something you and your side mocked and said would never happen.

Finally, regarding the numbers, please keep in mind that WWII killed 75 Million people. Covid killed 3.6Million. No I'm not making light of that, but when looked at in perspective, the world-wide reaction to COVID was an utter over-reaction. Given what we know now, what we all said all along would have been the prudent approach - protect the vulnerable while the rest of us went about our lives and kept the economy going. Our reaction was the absolute opposite of what should have been done.
 
Excellent summation of where we are this Memorial Day weekend. Kudos to Jim Acosta for being brutally honest, as usual. (y)


do you even know what the word "honest" means?

acosta is a ******* hack
What's next Tim? Say Covid fully - or even partially - got out from a lab, that's how it got to the wet market in Wuhan and began spreading from there. What does that change, in your view, regarding everything that's gone down since then? Given the number of 'corona' viruses that have existed, and will surely exist in the future. How does this put the genie back in the bottle regarding how Trump lied his *** off for months, how he mocked mask wearing, how he downsized the US pandemic response team? How does this change the fact that 3.5M people died from this worldwide, over 600k in the US alone? What is the end game here? Drop a few nukes on China?
oh **** tibs, the so called "experts" couldn't decide at the start if masks worked or not.

why don't you cry about the liberals calling him xenophobic for calling for travel bans from china? After President Trump calls for the ban, liberal leaders are out in china town or times square telling everyone to get out and enjoy themselves, don't be afraid to eat out.....

so if it is found to have escaped from a chinese lab, will you admit President Trump was right and President Biden was wrong to shut down the investigation started under President Trump?

yeah but all the US deaths are President Trumps fault.

******* liberals
 
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I never argued we wouldn't see cases in the hundreds. I argued against YOUR ARBITRARY statement that when and only WHEN we get to hundreds of cases would you support getting rid of masking/lockdowns.

Second, I've already schooled you over and over that those who have had the virus are equally as protected from future infection as those who have been vaccinated. Scientists have studied and proven this. I'm not reposting articles you won't again read.

COVID is coming to an end due to vaccinations + natural immunity....mankind's greatest defense against virus and disease
Just at my facility which has roughly 100 employees 3-4 have had Covid more than once and one was vaccinated. Another facility roughly the same size had 12 employees test positive fairly recently 6 have had covid before and 3 of those were vaccinated. It does not seem to be all that uncommon to get it more than once. Some people i know got it worse the second time while others had no symptoms. Just seems to be a very odd virus.
I am not buying the natural immunity BS just like people do not become immune to the flu. Vaccines also do not prevent you from getting it so the relaxation on guidelines for vaccinated people is just for show. The real test will be when we re-enter the "flu" season.
 
Just at my facility which has roughly 100 employees 3-4 have had Covid more than once and one was vaccinated. Another facility roughly the same size had 12 employees test positive fairly recently 6 have had covid before and 3 of those were vaccinated. It does not seem to be all that uncommon to get it more than once. Some people i know got it worse the second time while others had no symptoms. Just seems to be a very odd virus.
I am not buying the natural immunity BS just like people do not become immune to the flu. Vaccines also do not prevent you from getting it so the relaxation on guidelines for vaccinated people is just for show. The real test will be when we re-enter the "flu" season.

As has been said before, your facility seems to be the most infected place on earth. Weird.

You can buy or not buy what you want. Studies (from scientists, not the 59-gender scientists) are showing the world over that those with natural immunity are faring as well as those who have been vaccinated.

Given there is a 0.6% chance of reinfection, I'll state again...you're either not relaying accurate stats or your facility is the biggest outlier on the planet.
 
oh **** tibs, the so called "experts" couldn't decide at the start if masks worked or not.

why don't you cry about the liberals calling him xenophobic for calling for travel bans from china? After President Trump calls for the ban, liberal leaders are out in china town or times square telling everyone to get out and enjoy themselves, don't be afraid to eat out.....

so if it is found to have escaped from a chinese lab, will you admit President Trump was right and President Biden was wrong to shut down the investigation started under President Trump?

yeah but all the US deaths are President Trumps fault.

******* liberals
As I often ask the Libs on social media, "When did Trump not follow Dr. Fauci's advice?"
I can't think of any.
They can't have it both ways.
 
What's next Tim? Say Covid fully - or even partially - got out from a lab, that's how it got to the wet market in Wuhan and began spreading from there. What does that change, in your view, regarding everything that's gone down since then?

First, why do you keep hanging onto this phony "wet market" fiction? The Chinese did detailed tracing early on and reported that 40% of the people who had Covid had nothing to do with and no contact with the "wet market." Further, the supposed "intermediary source" that supposedly allowed the virus to jump from bats to people - remember the pangolin theory? - has never been found. The animal-to-human source for SARS was located in four months, and for MERS in seven months. Third, the first cases of Covid seem to involve workers in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Fourth, China's "bat doctor" admitted to working on the virus very closely related to SARS-CoV2, and performing "gain of function" research, i.e., altering the virus to make it more transmissible to humans for "research" purposes. (And biological weapon use, but shhhh ... can't mention that, can we?)

The wet market theory has always been and remains a lie the Chinese cooked up (no pun intended) to cover the real origin of the virus. Trump was right; screeching liberals caterwauling "racist!" were wrong. Deal with it.

Given the number of 'corona' viruses that have existed, and will surely exist in the future.

What the ... ? No, that is not true. The research done at the Chinese lab changed the very nature of the virus to MAKE IT transmissible to humans. Your theory is no more viable than me saying, "Why get worked up about nuclear weapons? Given that nuclear reactions have been going on for billions of years, nuclear weapons were certain to develop in the future." Ehh, no. No they weren't, and neither was a bio-engineered virus.

How does this put the genie back in the bottle regarding how Trump lied his *** off for months, how he mocked mask wearing, how he downsized the US pandemic response team?

You still harp on the "Trump is to blame" because you refuse to admit that Trump saved a lot of lives by stopping travel from China. You fail to acknowledge, even now, that the Chinese intentionally spread the disease around the world as they were horrified at the thought of the disease ravaging China while the rest of the world escaped its consequences.

There is new evidence to show that China locked down all domestic traffic internally by end January 2020 but pushed to open foreign travel till end March. Data from Tom Tom traffic index, a traffic location site that covers 416 cities across 57 countries show that as a result of this strategy, China, intentionally or otherwise, was able to lockdown its cities unknown to the world. While this reduced the spread of the Corona virus within China, China’s aggressive foreign travel policy lead to a virus explosion worldwide. Here is the chronological events of what happened with the requisite traffic data from 10 major cities globally and the statements from Chinese leaders that will help readers reach their own conclusions.


How does this change the fact that 3.5M people died from this worldwide, over 600k in the US alone? What is the end game here? Drop a few nukes on China?

Your comment is frankly stunning. Unbelievable.

You are frothing at the mouth for a January 6 commission "to get to the bottom" of the most investigated riot in world history, where the only person to die because of the riot was an unarmed 110 lb. woman.

And you blow off holding China accountable? "Oh, what are you going to do, nuke 'em?" How about this, genius - we actually investigate how the virus came to be, when China knew of the virus, what they did, who made those decisions, and then after getting the information, consider punitive measures that include:
  • Jail the leaders who lied about the disease and made the decisions to allow travel from other nations into and out of Wuhan.
  • A worldwide trade embargo on China.
  • A worldwide trade tariff on China.
  • A bill to China to pay for the trillions of dollars in damage done to the world paid for by canceling government bond debt or tariffs.
  • International monitoring of their bioweapons labs.
  • Forfeiture of assets the Chinese hold in the nations ravaged by their gross negligence, lying and intentional wrongdoing.
  • A paydown of the debt America owes to China by way of vast discount of the bonds and treasury debt they hold.
How about that? But first, the quisling left needs to acknowledge what China did and the millions they killed, in large part intentionally.
 
Your comment is frankly stunning. Unbelievable.

You are frothing at the mouth for a January 6 commission "to get to the bottom" of the most investigated riot in world history, where the only person to die because of the riot was an unarmed 110 lb. woman.

And you blow off holding China accountable?

That sums Tibs up in a nutshell. The man is good for one thing, and that is selective outrage.

Getting to the bottom of Jan 6 means more to him than getting to the bottom of the origins of a virus that killed 3.6 million people.

Also says a lot about the inner, rotten core of a person who can think this way.
 
As I've been saying for over a year. This is lab made. China is on the hook for a lot of deaths.

Nothing makes that clearer than from barred travel from Wuhan to other parts of China,but allowed them to infect the world. They're 100% responsible for it.

Just remember this is the same government who murdered tens of millions of Chinese during their little commie revolution.

They're as evil as it gets. Our little twisted leftist shitbags here used it to take power. Little ******* are probably in cahoots with Xi ping pong. Imposter Joe and his precious crackhead son certainly are.

What a sad and pathetic bunch.
 
The man is good for one thing, and that is selective outrage. Also says a lot about the inner, rotten core of a person who can think this way.

Your projecting is beyond the pale, but not at all surprising.
 
Your projecting is beyond the pale, but not at all surprising.

It's the stark, cold truth. You are the most unobjective person on the board. 100% driven by partisan politics. You care more about the truth of January 6 than you do about a pandemic that killed millions.

I don't need to explain it to anyone else. Everyone sees it. You are guided only by selective outrage.
 
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