The Epstein Problem

[MT~Forged]

I don't think it's a simple list with names on it. Rather, perhaps it's dossiers containing compelling, tangible information linking Epstein/Maxwell's criminal activities to their clients. Which would go a long way in untangling years of sordid, depraved behavior by the ruling elites, on both sides of the political spectrum. I hope they throw the kitchen sink at them. Most importantly, the privacy of the underage girls involved in this must be protected at all cost. They have suffered enough.

So you are saying it would be intelligence gathered? When have you ever heard of those agencies releasing information like that? That is information you curate to control people, not stuff you curate to expose them.

 

[Tibs]

I always laugh when I hear the term "Bipartisan" thrown around, because DC is a Uni-party

Call it what you want. In this instance, it's a welcome development, to see representatives come together on an issue, perhaps, even, against the wishes of party leadership. It's as rare as a blue moon.

 

[Tibs]

So you are saying it would be intelligence gathered? When have you ever heard of those agencies releasing information like that? That is information you curate to control people, not stuff you curate to expose them.

The most frustrating aspect of this wretched saga, this case should have been handled by prosecutors at the DOJ, or if they got their wires crossed up due to the amount of big wigs involved, then hand it off to a special counsel investigation. The fact that both Epstein and Maxwell were jailed for crimes of pedophilia and child sex-trafficking, while everyone else involved walked scot-free, was a huge miscarriage of justice. Nothing was done for years, the case was allowed to be politicized by both parties, across several administrations. I will stand and applaud whoever is involved in shedding light on the facts in this case, however tangled, and uncomfortable, the web may be. F*ck these sick b*stards, all of them.

 

[warriors42]

whats lost in all of this is just how corrupt this ENTIRE government is. they spend the majority of their time trying to cover their ***** and digging up dirt on the other side so they can cover said *****. It's a wonder any of them have any time to actually work for we the people.

Object of any elected Government official

First.. steal as much as you possibly can from the American people.
second.. blame the other side for absolutely every ******* thing
third.. go get drinks together and laugh at how stupid and complacent the American people are
and last but not least.. go back to object one and start over.

I fear that those of us that are old enough to remember what a great America was actually like, are watching the Country we love and served erode into a third world country.

 

[Tibs]

I fear that those of us that are old enough to remember what a great America was actually like, are watching the Country we love and served erode into a third world country.

Agree with your sentiment, warriors42. Well expressed, as sad and disheartening as it is.

 

[Steeltime]

No, you mean that’s what the democrats WANT to be the prevailing question of the day. And just like good little lemmings, the media and you fall right in line. Yours, and the democrat party’s obsession with this would seem a whole lot more genuine had they expressed the same concern and desire to have this information released at any point during the last 4 years. Pretty sure it was referred to as a distraction back then. Can’t imagine what changed.

 

[Djfan]

The most frustrating aspect of this wretched saga, this case should have been handled by prosecutors at the DOJ, or if they got their wires crossed up due to the amount of big wigs involved, then hand it off to a special counsel investigation. The fact that both Epstein and Maxwell were jailed for crimes of pedophilia and child sex-trafficking, while everyone else involved walked scot-free, was a huge miscarriage of justice. Nothing was done for years, the case was allowed to be politicized by both parties, across several administrations. I will stand and applaud whoever is involved in shedding light on the facts in this case, however tangled, and uncomfortable, the web may be. F*ck these sick b*stards, all of them.

I agree.

 

[Tibs]

I agree.

Just wanted to thank you, Djfan, for finding some middle ground with a guy like me, who doesn't share the overwhelmingly one-sided political views on this board. It gives me hope to find such middle ground with others as well, so maybe we can stop taking personal potshots at our fellow Steelers fans, and try to engage in conversation.

A public message board like this is a microcosm, a tiny slice, of society itself, with folks from all walks of life, with differing opinions, and political views. I understand there's a core group of a members here who choose to attack and ostracize me regardless, who do not tolerate divergent views and opinions, who'd prefer to have a good 'ol boys, private club here at SN. Not expecting much amity from them. Some habits are hard to break.

I'm glad there are decent, civilized Steelers fans who show up here to debate politics and try to have a conversation in a deeply divided world.

 

[Troglodyte]

I find it hysterical (sad?) that there are some here believing that it can't possibly be their guy but it's obviously that other guy.

When you turn to theoretical whataboutism you’re desperate.

“Our guy” didn’t threaten to weaponize the list, then change the narrative twice and gas light, and have his close associate claim that he was on the list.

The best case scenario for your guy is he used the rape of teenage girls for political gain. Hysterical?

 

[Badcat]

The most frustrating aspect of this wretched saga, this case should have been handled by prosecutors at the DOJ, or if they got their wires crossed up due to the amount of big wigs involved, then hand it off to a special counsel investigation. The fact that both Epstein and Maxwell were jailed for crimes of pedophilia and child sex-trafficking, while everyone else involved walked scot-free, was a huge miscarriage of justice. Nothing was done for years, the case was allowed to be politicized by both parties, across several administrations. I will stand and applaud whoever is involved in shedding light on the facts in this case, however tangled, and uncomfortable, the web may be. F*ck these sick b*stards, all of them.

*******-A, we're all on board with this. It isn't political, this is a socially disgusting and abhorrent topic to even think about, let alone talk about openly. Hang them, fry them, dispose of them as horrifically as possible but afford us the opportunity to watch and relish in their demise.

 

[Badcat]

Just wanted to thank you, Djfan, for finding some middle ground with a guy like me, who doesn't share the overwhelmingly one-sided political views on this board. It gives me hope to find such middle ground with others as well, so maybe we can stop taking personal potshots at our fellow Steelers fans, and try to engage in conversation.

A public message board like this is a microcosm, a tiny slice, of society itself, with folks from all walks of life, with differing opinions, and political views. I understand there's a core group of a members here who choose to attack and ostracize me regardless, who do not tolerate divergent views and opinions, who'd prefer to have a good 'ol boys, private club here at SN. Not expecting much amity from them. Some habits are hard to break.

I'm glad there are decent, civilized Steelers fans who show up here to debate politics and try to have a conversation in a deeply divided world.

Wish you would do the same instead of spewing party line inflammatory comments. A conversation not only necessitates two or more voices, but also reason, understanding, and hearing, actually hearing what the other individuals are trying to convey. You troll 99.9% in of your posts and for that, you get what you get back. I believe you now see, that if you truly want to have a conversation, we're here to have that dialog with you. But, if you want to troll and make inflammatory remarks, you're going to get it back tenfold. Your call chief.

 

[Steeltime]

Wish you would do the same instead of spewing party line inflammatory comments. A conversation not only necessitates two or more voices, but also reason, understanding, and hearing, actually hearing what the other individuals are trying to convey. You troll 99.9% in of your posts and for that, you get what you get back. I believe you now see, that if you truly want to have a conversation, we're here to have that dialog with you. But, if you want to troll and make inflammatory remarks, you're going to get it back tenfold. Your call chief.

"You are a typical MAGAT Nazi who wants to enslave black people and murder the indigenous! You are a racist, homophobe, transphobe, germophobe and an unenlightened blight on humanity! You are as bad as your hero, a pedophiliac fascist Nazi psychopath traitor intent on destroying America, a Russian plant, a Russian agent! I have personally seen plenty of evidence or Russian collusion or conspiracy in plain sight and know for a fact that the Evil Orange One is Satan! You dumb hillbillies ... hold on, I'll be back. The guy at the counter is telling me to shut up and get his coffee."
- Tibilo

 

[madinsomniac]

Lol libs before the Trump admin refused to release stuff argued for years against conspiracy theories about organized Pedo rings among the rich and powerful.... called them nonsense and fantasy... now they are all about outing the Pedos.. lol I will say this... Trump certainly exposes hypocrisy and deranged stupidity on both sode of the aisle rather easily...

 

[IndySteel]

 

[Troglodyte]

 

[Djfan]

Just wanted to thank you, Djfan, for finding some middle ground with a guy like me, who doesn't share the overwhelmingly one-sided political views on this board. It gives me hope to find such middle ground with others as well, so maybe we can stop taking personal potshots at our fellow Steelers fans, and try to engage in conversation.

A public message board like this is a microcosm, a tiny slice, of society itself, with folks from all walks of life, with differing opinions, and political views. I understand there's a core group of a members here who choose to attack and ostracize me regardless, who do not tolerate divergent views and opinions, who'd prefer to have a good 'ol boys, private club here at SN. Not expecting much amity from them. Some habits are hard to break.

I'm glad there are decent, civilized Steelers fans who show up here to debate politics and try to have a conversation in a deeply divided world.

Thank you, Sir. I try to affirm all people, or just give up on them. You happen to be a person (so I hear), so I offer you the benefit of the doubt.

I hope you receive this well. I have seen some simply insult, belittle, or slam you. I don't like it. But, truthfully, I have seen it from you to others.

While I don't recommend this approach, I have to confess that I spoke to you this way once. I regret that. I am sorry.

Maybe you and I can turn the tide of immaturity, and communicate as adults. My personal guess is that we all have much in common - a high priority on family, business, freedoms, etc., and a strong distain for jumping to conclusions, racism, fraud, politicians who benefit themselves, etc.

The few things that divide us are often minor by comparison. This is my unscientific experience.

Blessings.

 

[MT~Forged]

Just wanted to thank you, Djfan, for finding some middle ground with a guy like me, who doesn't share the overwhelmingly one-sided political views on this board.

That is some first class comedy gold right there. YOU are the epitome of this.

 

[Superman]

 

[Superman]

dominoes are falling...

https://apnews.com/article/roy-black-death-obituary-kennedy-trial-4f0986970685a19b780d0dab6ebd0df9

 

[IndySteel]

If there was anything remotely negative in "the files" implicating Trump it would have been released. They tried to kill the guy. Why wouldn't they have released it as an October Surprise right before the election? Tibtard and Flog still hope and pray to Karl Marx that there's something there though. F'ing morons.

 

[Superman]

If there was anything remotely negative in "the files" implicating Trump it would have been released. They tried to kill the guy. Why wouldn't they have released it as an October Surprise right before the election? Tibtard and Flog still hope and pray to Karl Marx that there's something there though. F'ing morons.

that's a little harsh, don't you think? i mean, we all have disagreements with those two, but to lump them in with morons is just inexcusable. you should apologize to morons worldwide for insulting them. Tweedle Tibs and Tweedle Flog could only hope to ascend to the moron level IQ.

 

[ZonaBurgh]

When you turn to theoretical whataboutism you’re desperate.

“Our guy” didn’t threaten to weaponize the list, then change the narrative twice and gas light, and have his close associate claim that he was on the list.

The best case scenario for your guy is he used the rape of teenage girls for political gain. Hysterical?

You are such an asss. I don't care who is arrested, prosecuted and ultimately hung.

It's you continuing to whine Orange Man Bad. You are a sick, small man, unable to see past your ideology and have an honest discussion.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Trump running a rope-a-dope on the Dims.
You know....
1. Trump: I'll release the Epstein files!
2. Bondi: We're not going to release the Epstein files.
3. Dims: Release the files!
4. Trump releases files, media finds it's 90% Democrats.

 

[Tibs]

If there was anything remotely negative in "the files" implicating Trump it would have been released.

Right? Redact the names of the victims, release the info. It's a layup for Trump.

Promises made, promised kept. Come on Donald, you can do this.

 

[MT~Forged]

My hope is that investigations are being done behind the scenes. If so, you are not releasing anything prior to trials being held.

Yeah, I know that is likely not what is going on