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If the Steelers were run like the Browns they would have fired Chuck Noll after his first season when he went 1-13.
 
No one wants to be the Browns or the Raiders. But if you are the Bengals and come up short again this year, what is your breaking point there?
 
Ron Burgundy said:
If the Steelers were run like the Browns they would have fired Chuck Noll after his first season when he went 1-13.
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And then Noll would have started his own team in Harrisburg called the Coalers with black and gold uniforms and the miner's union logo on one side of the helmet.
 
warriors42 said:
The thing is I don't think it's been a coaching problem in a while. they just can't get the right people in the front office. Sadly I am old enough to remember when the Browns were a team to be concerned about, those Kosar teams weren't always bad.
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Me too......and old enough to remember the year we beat them 3 times........2 regular season and a PO game @ TRS.....was actually at that one.....though Testaverde had replaced Bernie. And belicheat was the HC.

Cope said:
I watched the post game presser for Pettine, and I have to say, the Browns were stupid to dump him. He cared for his players. He didn't throw them under the bus. He praised their effort and the young core of players that were doing some good things. The guy had a passion for his team and the city of Cleveland. He was not the problem. I wouldn't be surprised if he succeeds as a head coach elsewhere.

I also watched that the hiring committee, as mentioned above, is made up of 4 people without football backgrounds in their previous jobs. This is a ******* circus in cleveland. They have zero chance of getting the football operations part right. Not only do they lack experience, but they want to hire the HC before the ******* GM, because they want the coach to help with the GM's hiring? WTF is that about? The coach is in charge of the team, the GM is in charge of the roster and personnel moves. I want my GM hired first, each and every time. I never want to be in a position where the GM feels he can't make a call over the HC. The GM and the ownership should be tightest. The GM and the Coach need to work together, but friendship is not necessary. For a GM to have to second guess his duties because a HC holds some degree of influence over him, is non-productive.

We will have another Haslet presser in 3-4 years about rebuilding in Cleveland when they fire this round of hires. That is if Haslet is still out of jail...
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So you're saying they've got a chance?

SteelerSask said:
No one wants to be the Browns or the Raiders. But if you are the Bengals and come up short again this year, what is your breaking point there?
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Not sure who Marv has pictures of but they must be pretty good. Or bad.

tapeANaspirin2it said:
And then Noll would have started his own team in Harrisburg called the Coalers with black and gold uniforms and the miner's union logo on one side of the helmet.
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And there'd be a Lombardi or two at least closer to Philly.
 
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Anyone know why the movie "Draft Day" will never get a sequel?
-Vontae Mack ended up holding out all of training camp then tore his MCL in his first game,
-Ray Jennings failed four drug tests and is out of the league,
-Brian Drew was benched by midseason.
-David Putney turned out to be Jacoby Jones in disguise.

Meanwhile Callahan set rookie passing records, and the Jags spent their second rounder on a guy who made the pro bowl in his first season. Ultimately Vince penn and Sonny Weaver jr were both fired at the end of that season. they replaced him with some bum off the street who traded their next 5 round picks for a barrel of coke and a keg of rum... which actually was the best trade in Browns history since they could no longer spend first rounders on worthless QBs
 
Does anyone else think that it's funny that the first rounder they got from the one good trade the Browns made (somehow getting a first from the Colts for Trent Richardson) went in part payment to trade up with the Eagles to get Manziel?

Bust for a bust.

The Clowns could have stayed put and taken Derek Carr or Teddy Bridgewater. Though either one would probably have bust both ACLs in a freak accident as he fell down the stairs of the plane as he arrived in Cleveland - certainly something would have happened to **** them up.
 
They all seem to eventually end up in this fan's yard....add one more circa 2015

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There's just no way in the world the Browns are going to be able to hire a coach and GM tandem that will be able to work smoothly together and with DePodesta. The odds are about the same of me stepping outside my house and punting a football to the moon. What a pathetic circus that could be avoided so easily by hiring a competent, experienced GM and then getting the **** out of the way while said GM hires a coach and put together a proper football operation.
 
BAS said:
Browns latest hire -- Paul DePodesta from THE METS!

http://nypost.com/2016/01/05/paul-depodesta-leaving-mets-in-stunning-jump-to-nfls-browns/

According to the linked article, the Browns began pursuing him shortly after the Mets lost the World Series.
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He is the guy that Jonah Hill's character was based on in Moneyball.

There is a reason why analytics is so popular in baseball. If done correctly, it guarantees that your team won't stink. In baseball, that is all that matters for most teams. Half the teams simply can't compete financially with the big teams. Analytics allows you to field a cheaper team that is still competitive. Just enough that your fans will show up.

Analytics is perfect for baseball because with 162 games, the stats will even out. But football is only 16 games. Analytics can help you build depth and maybe avoid total busts but it won't necessarily mean you hit on stars either. In football it basically means your team will be fast.

They still need football people to find the stars in the pile of above average athletes.
 
Totally true. I think the place of analytics in football is looking at true statistics of college players instead of the inflated bull **** created by playing BF state or even good teams against a guy who will be playing in Canada at best. Then they might be able to give you in game tendencies. I think that is what Ernie Adams is. But he has a football back round at least.
 
Confluence said:
Does his career start to suck when he knows in his heart he will become a stain, or just when they draft him?
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I think he holds out hope right up until his phone rings and it's a 216 area code.
 
The Browns have started airing a commercial seeking candidates for their Front Office and Coaching vacancies


 
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