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Remarkable, you sound just like Trump.

You're up in the polls, you may win the election, things are looking good, everything's fine & dandy.
You're down in the polls, may lose the election, now everything's rigged, the election's a fraud, everyone's plotting against you.

Enough with the ******* whining already. Win like a man, lose like a man.
 
Remarkable, you sound just like Trump.

You're up in the polls, you may win the election, things are looking good, everything's fine & dandy.
You're down in the polls, may lose the election, now everything's rigged, the election's a fraud, everyone's plotting against you.

Enough with the ******* whining already. Win like a man, lose like a man.

Enough with the trolling already. POP said nothing about polls.

Grow up Tibs.
 
POP still hasn't found the contributor button yet. That damn thing keeps disappearing.
 
Remarkable, you sound just like Trump.

You're up in the polls, you may win the election, things are looking good, everything's fine & dandy.
You're down in the polls, may lose the election, now everything's rigged, the election's a fraud, everyone's plotting against you.

Enough with the ******* whining already. Win like a man, lose like a man.

No wonder you're considered a piece of ****. Anyone not knowing the polls are all bull **** is dumber than a box of rocks. The fact the media already KNOWS the %'s of the final vote proves this **** is fixed and fraudulent. Oh, and in case you missed it, Killary claimed W Bush win was stolen. So much for being a total hypocrite.

But, dems whining over election fraud is nothing new. But facts are not your strong suit, I realize this.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/19/8-times-liberals-claimed-election-stolen-rigged/
 
There's not just fraud going on "to a degree." It's rampant. Hundreds of thousands of dead voters. Maybe millions. Democratic shills being caught voting 19 times themselves. Ballots being changed in Ohio, Texas, FL, PA and more. Philly Democratic voter offices being raided by the police. There are a thousand reports out there of voter fraud. It's everywhere.

For Tibs et al to put blinders on is being intentionally obtuse. Instead of calling it fraud and saying it's a problem and should be fixed, they say "man up and win or lose." Pathetic.
 
Both sides engage in the same stuff... Its not like the repubs are squeaky clean... Just listen to the dems whine about scott walker sometime
 
Both sides engage in the same stuff... Its not like the repubs are squeaky clean... Just listen to the dems whine about scott walker sometime

I'll be open minded. I'm not seeing stories of Republicans using dead people to vote, of Republicans owning the voting machines in 15 states, of Republican hacks voting 15 or more times individually, of Republicans switching ballots. If you can share some evidence, I'd appreciate it. Meanwhile, there are endless stories of voter fraud going on by Liberals. Literally, and endless trove.

http://www.independentsentinel.com/...n-philly-three-fourths-of-ballots-thrown-out/

Voter Fraud by Progressive Group in Philly? Three-Fourths of Ballots Thrown Out

The Progressive Democrat group Fieldworks LLC, which pretends to be a grassroots organization, handed in 3400 last-minute voter registration applications, three-quarters of which appear to be fraudulent.

They were duplicates, had invalid addresses and so on. The county is allowing another 1600 to submit provisional ballots though they went beyond the deadline.

The Fieldworks applications came from the Pennsylvania Department of State to Delaware County without keeping postmarks but they were on time, an election official contended.

Fieldworks’ offices were raided in Delaware County and Philadelhia for evidence of registration fraud.

A former canvasser told authorities that she was fired for not meeting her 18 new voters a day. It’s illegal to pay based on numbers registered.

The ACLU tried to prevent the provisional ballot and have the votes counted immediately but lost. The ACLU will always err on the side of fraud.

Andy Reilly, chairman of the Delaware County Republican Party, said he had wanted all of the FieldWorks applications held until next election but understood the panel’s decision.

Fieldworks consistently has these kinds of problems though they assure people they would never condone voter fraud.

Over the years, one must wonder how many were not caught.

FieldWorks denied similar charges of voter registration fraud in Ohio during the 2012 election cycle that landed one Ohio University student in jail.

In 2012, FieldWorks’ voter registration efforts in Ohio sparked some controversy. FieldWorks employees filed thousands of new voter registration cards in the final week before the registration deadline. Some of them were found to be fraudulent.

In that same election, FieldWorks included a cover letter with its mass voter filing warning that it itself viewed scores of the submitted names as fraudulent.

Police in Cincinnati arrested a former Ohio University student in 2012 working in FieldWorks on charges of forging 22 signatures on a petition drive. Police said at the time that FieldWorks itself played no role in that man’s scheme to pad his list.
 
Why stop there? Maybe there's hundreds of millions?

How many do you think it is? Or do you believe this is not a problem?

Dead people voting is a type of election fraud that occurs when the name of a deceased person remains on a state's official list of registered voters and a living person fraudulently casts a ballot in that name.

The extent to which this type of vote fraud occurs is not known. If, after an election, a reporter examines the publicly available list of who voted in the election and finds from other evidence (such as the Social Security Administration's "Death Master File") that there is good reason to believe that some of the names on the list of those who voted are the names of people who are dead, it can be established that "dead people voted." Such painstaking analyses are expensive and cumbersome.

It is easier to determine how many names of deceased people still appear on official voter registration lists than it is to determine how many (if any) actual votes were fraudulently cast in the name of a deceased person.

Some recent examples of elections in which actual fraudulent votes were cast on behalf of dead people include a 2005 state senate election in Tennessee that was decided by fewer than 20 votes; in this case, a post-election verification process established that two fraudulent votes were cast on behalf of dead people. Three election workers were indicted, and the results of the election were voided. The mayoral election in Miami in 1997 was nullified by a judge because of widespread fraud, including a number of established cases of fraudulent votes cast in the name of dead people. Election inspectors looking at the 1982 gubernatorial election in Illinois estimated that as many as 1 in 10 ballots cast during the election were fraudulent, including votes by the dead.

When the Poughkeepsie Journal in New York did a 2006 analysis of how names of deceased people were still on New York's official list of registered voters, it conducted the assessment by matching "the names, dates of birth and ZIP codes of all listed voters in New York's database of 11.7 million voter registration records against the same information in the Social Security Administration's "Death Master File," a database of 77 million records of deaths dating to 1937." That study resulted in a final estimate of as many as 77,000 dead people on its rolls, and that as many as 2,600 of them had cast votes from the grave.

Let's look at that last section. 11.7 million voter registration records in NY. 77,000 dead people were on its rolls, and 2,600 of them cast votes. Using the same percentages, if one assumed they are likewise across the country in all states, that would mean that out of 126Million votes in the 2012 election, as many as 829,231 could have been from the dead.

This is only based on what is caught. Nearly a million potential dead voters. If an exhaustive investigation were done, millions is not an impossibility to realize. Especially in this upcoming election with all of the rampant voter fraud already caught.
 

I just got an e-mail about that same story 'D'. Them folks down in Broward County had a regular assembly line going.

Brenda-Snipes-Hillary-Clinton-Broward-Voter-Fraud.jpg

Broward County Florida Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes, left, and Democratic presidential nominee former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during a campaign rally at Rev Samuel Deleove Memorial Park on November 1, 2016 in Ft Lauderdale, Florida.

According to multiple sources and witnesses, Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes and employees are engaging in mass voter fraud in multiple forms. While People’s Pundit Daily has uncovered instances of election fraud in other counties around the state–including Pasco and Lee–Broward is large enough that it could potentially swing the state.

“They’ve been at this [filling out absentee ballots] for days, working 4 to 5 employees some 16 hours a day each. There’s no telling how many ballots we are talking about. As many as they can each write in 16 hours a piece.”

Sources confirm Snipes was breaking the law and opened more than 153,000 ballots cast by mail in private, claiming employees were tearing up and disposing of those that were votes in support of Donald J. Trump.

The volunteer, who was terminated ubruptly after witnessing the mass voter fraud operation
in what employees called “The Pitney Bowes Room,” stated in their affidavit that they clearly saw these four individuals filling in “stacks” of ballots with the same pen given by the Supervisor of Elections to voters.

https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/...ls-caught-ballot-stuffing-destroying-ballots/

http://6889-presscdn-0-68.pagely.ne...loads/2016/11/Chelsey-Smith-SOE-Affidavit.pdf
 
How many do you think it is? Or do you believe this is not a problem?



Let's look at that last section. 11.7 million voter registration records in NY. 77,000 dead people were on its rolls, and 2,600 of them cast votes. Using the same percentages, if one assumed they are likewise across the country in all states, that would mean that out of 126Million votes in the 2012 election, as many as 829,231 could have been from the dead.

This is only based on what is caught. Nearly a million potential dead voters. If an exhaustive investigation were done, millions is not an impossibility to realize. Especially in this upcoming election with all of the rampant voter fraud already caught.

2,600 is an estimate based on another estimate so I'll take that with a grain of salt.

To get to millions of votes, wouldn't you either need to organize millions of people willing to cast individual fraudulent votes, or a smaller number of people to cast tens of thousands of votes individually?
 
2,600 is an estimate based on another estimate so I'll take that with a grain of salt.

To get to millions of votes, wouldn't you either need to organize millions of people willing to cast individual fraudulent votes, or a smaller number of people to cast tens of thousands of votes individually?

77,000 dead people on the voter rolls is not an estimate. There should be zero on the voter rolls.

Are you saying voter fraud and dead people voting isn't a serious problem?
 
Huh? Would you look at these articles from 2012? One can only imagine the problem is worse now.

http://www.npr.org/2012/02/14/146827471/study-1-8-million-dead-people-still-registered-to-vote

Study: 1.8 Million Dead People Still Registered To Vote

A new report by the Pew Center on the States finds that more than 1.8 million dead people are currently registered to vote. And 24 million registrations are either invalid or inaccurate.

Nearly Two Million Dead People Registered to Vote in America


The United States’ voter registration system is in chaos — about 24 million registrations are no longer valid and nearly 2 million dead people are still on voter rolls, according to a new report Tuesday.

Along with the one of every eight voter registrations that is not valid or has significant inaccuracies, there are 2.75 million people currently registered to vote in more than one state, the Pew Center on the States study found. And the millions of problematic registrations aren’t the only issue — researchers estimate at least 51 million eligible U.S. citizens aren’t registered to vote. That’s nearly one in four, or 24 percent of the eligible population.

There also are more than 1.8 million deceased people who still have active registration on voter rolls, Pew found. And, Becker said, the outdated, inefficient systems currently in place are “not designed to keep up with deaths as they occur.”
 
Can someone esplain to me why voter IDs are something that is impossible to require?
 
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