• Please be aware we've switched the forums to their own URL. (again) You'll find the new website address to be www.steelernationforum.com Thanks
  • Please clear your private messages. Your inbox is close to being full.

The fix is in

  • Thread starter Thread starter POP
  • Start date Start date
Can someone esplain to me why voter IDs are something that is impossible to require?

Cheating is the reason they don't want the ID requirement. See my other posts - 2 million dead people were on voting registers in 2012 alone.

To cover the obvious, cheating Democrats will tell you that voter ID laws "disenfranchise" poor voters.

But they will make those poor people have an ID for everything else in life - attending Hillary's Jay-Z concert, the Democratic national convention, or getting on an airplane. Voting though? That's racist!
 
Just auto register every single citizen and use figerprint tech to verify voter id... Base it on ss# and track individual votes... Problem solved
 
Can someone esplain to me why voter IDs are something that is impossible to require?

Clearly you are against poor people hamy....

September 04, 2012
On Thursday, a federal court blocked a Texas voter-identification law that the three-judge panel said would unnecessarily burden poor, minority citizens from exercising their right to vote. The court cited the fact that many Texans would have to travel up to 250 miles round-trip to get a free “election-ID certificate” and that the $22 cost to obtain an ID without a birth certificate was too much of a burden. The judges said, “A law that forces poorer citizens to choose between their wages and their franchise unquestionably denies or abridges their right to vote. … Simply put, many Hispanics and African Americans who voted in the last election will, because of the burdens imposed by [the voter-ID law], likely be unable to vote in the next election.”

This is the Gold Standard of all reasons...used first usually.

We have to wonder what the true motivation is of recent efforts by Republican lawmakers and tea party activists to install another barrier to voting. That barrier? Requiring each American exercising their RIGHT to vote to have to prove who they are, with a government issued ID. This would make sense if each Election Day we heard of massive voter fraud that had candidates elected with people voting multiple times or ineligible people voting. There is no evidence of this being the case. In fact after a five-year intensive investigation during the Bush administration the Justice Department netted a grand total of 86 voter fraud convictions nationwide during this period.

When appealing to the more moderate liberals, there is the monetary angle..

There is no doubt that if such a law were passed thousands of long time voters would be turned away and not allow to exercise their RIGHT to vote for not having complied with this new government burden. This is not to mention the cost of a new law like this. The State of Missouri estimates that the cost of issuing new photo ID’s for their recently passed voter id law to be over $ 20 million dollars in the next three years. For what? To prevent the very rare and random person who tries to vote who is not eligible? For that we would waste tax dollars, turn away qualified voters, inconvenience citizens? We should instead deal with the real and pressing needs in our communities and states.

Heartstrings, yeh that's it, tug on some heartstrings.....can't argue with that.

On Election Day we see the people we actually live next door to! These are the people with whom we breathe the same air and stand in the same rain, with whom we drive the same roads and ride the same buses, use the same mailboxes and have the same mail woman, the same UPS man and FedEx person. It is important to extend to them some measure of trust. To ask them for ID would be an insult.

These are our kin. These are our fellow countrymen and country-women. They should not be asked for ID.

I do not have to show ID when I walk into a church. I should not have to show ID when I walk into a polling place.

We are not strangers. We are not enemies. We are citizens.

When all else fails and common sense starts to prevail, it's time for the BIG GUN, the 900 pound gorilla........

Attorney General Eric Holder compared the law to "poll taxes," referring voting fees used in the post-Abolition South to discourage African-Americans from voting made illegal by the 24th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. He vowed his Justice Department "will not allow political pretexts to disenfranchise American citizens of their most precious right."

If that fails, then they start the whole cycle over again with the .."what difference could it possibly make" stance..

Photo ID for in person voters doesn’t stop honest mistakes or fraud caused by errors in voter registration or computer glitches. It also does not safeguard elections against voter fraud via mail in, absentee ballots (which have been shown to lead to far more fraud than in person voting). More research about voter fraud is needed so elected leaders can determine the best approach to making elections more secure

Nuff said hamy ? or do you want to interject that tired ole 'common sense' rhetoric the alt right teabaggers always use.
 
Yeah its racist not to allow Neo-Socialists to cheat in elections. To bad you cant summarily execute those caught cheating. Hang the ******* for treason, turning some of these DNC hacks particularly ones that swore oaths as election officials into lamp post ornaments would have a deterrent effect.
 
I'm still wondering why it's racist to demand ID to vote while not using that same standard for food stamps and welfare. If poor people can't afford to get ID, how did they afford to get the ID necessary for their benefits ?
 
I'm still wondering why it's racist to demand ID to vote while not using that same standard for food stamps and welfare. If poor people can't afford to get ID, how did they afford to get the ID necessary for their benefits ?

Thats different you racist.
 
Thats different you racist.


th


I'm sorry !
 
77,000 dead people on the voter rolls is not an estimate. There should be zero on the voter rolls.

Are you saying voter fraud and dead people voting isn't a serious problem?

Go back and read it, it was indeed an estimate.

No, it's not a serious problem on the scale of hundreds of thousands or millions. You're the only one suggesting that, and you can't explain logistically how it is being done.

Just because dead people are registered to vote doesn't mean anything. They also still have valid driver liscences. Big ******* deal.
 
Go back and read it, it was indeed an estimate.

No, it's not a serious problem on the scale of hundreds of thousands or millions. You're the only one suggesting that, and you can't explain logistically how it is being done.

Just because dead people are registered to vote doesn't mean anything. They also still have valid driver liscences. Big ******* deal.

The people who have died after registering isn't a problem The people that have voted after dying are a big problem. But the DNC always pitches a screaming blue fit if any mention of scrubbing the roles is made.
 
Remarkable, you sound just like Trump.

You're up in the polls, you may win the election, things are looking good, everything's fine & dandy.
You're down in the polls, may lose the election, now everything's rigged, the election's a fraud, everyone's plotting against you.

Enough with the ******* whining already. Win like a man, lose like a man.


Will you be able to abide by your own words?
 
The people who have died after registering isn't a problem The people that have voted after dying are a big problem. But the DNC always pitches a screaming blue fit if any mention of scrubbing the roles is made.

My grandfather is going to vote for Hildebeast. I tried to talk him out of it but he's been dead for 15 years.
 
The people who have died after registering isn't a problem The people that have voted after dying are a big problem.

Are they, or are people just extrapolating a big problem based on the number of registered dead people? I certainly don't think there are hundreds of thousands or more instances.

You can argue it's a big problem because, in theory, the election can be won or lost by a very small margin, but by the same logic, you could argue bad weather impacting turn out in a key state on Election Day is a much bigger problem.
 
You can argue it's a big problem because, in theory, the election can be won or lost by a very small margin, but by the same logic, you could argue bad weather impacting turn out in a key state on Election Day is a much bigger problem.

Bad weather depresses Democrat turnout more than Republican turnout, so I don't see it as a problem.
 
Are they, or are people just extrapolating a big problem based on the number of registered dead people? I certainly don't think there are hundreds of thousands or more instances.

You can argue it's a big problem because, in theory, the election can be won or lost by a very small margin, but by the same logic, you could argue bad weather impacting turn out in a key state on Election Day is a much bigger problem.

The guy in Virginia voting for WWII Veterans who died in 2014 look it up *******. To my way of thinking any of it is a problem and its always coming from the left side of the isle.
 
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article111029767.html

A 74-year-old woman tasked with opening envelopes sent by Miami-Dade County voters with their completed mail ballots was arrested Friday after co-workers caught her illegally marking ballots, resulting in an unknown — but small — number of fraudulent votes being cast for mayoral candidate Raquel Regalado.

Investigators linked Gladys Coego, a temporary worker for the county elections department, to two fraudulent votes, but they suspect from witness testimony that she submitted several more.

Coego, of Westchester, turned herself in to the Turner Guilford Knight Correctional Center on Friday morning. She was charged with two felony counts of marking another person’s ballot. Coego was released after posting a $10,000 bond.

In a separate election-fraud case, authorities also arrested a second woman Friday on charges of unlawfully filling out voter-registration forms on behalf of United for Care, the campaign to legalize medical marijuana in Florida.

The Miami-Dade state attorney’s office accused Tomika Curgil, 33, of filling out forms for five people without their consent. She also submitted at least 15 forms for people who apparently don’t exist — and several forms for people who are dead.

Police officers arrested Curgil at her Liberty City home Friday morning and charged her with five felony counts of submitting false voter-registration information. Her bond was set at $125,000.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article111029767.html#storylink=cpy
 
Wow, low democRAT turnout caused by global warming!

Hooray for global warming!

Dead people are polling 100% for Hildebeast.
 
of course it's fixed....

what the **** were you really expecting?
 
of course it's fixed....

what the **** were you really expecting?

That's why I was never totally on board. The Clintons have been skating on shady **** for 30 years.
 
White Power?



Dick Morris Predicts Landslide Win for Trump as Male Vote Grows

The latest Fox News poll, reported yesterday, shows Trump’s lead among white high school educated men is approaching landslide proportions.

In the current poll, he leads Hillary among these voters by 41 points (61-20)

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/ar...andslide&year=2016&month=11&date=05&id=757223

Won't matter if hispanic and black turnout is high. They are almost all blindly voting for Hilldog. The demographics are not good moving forward for the GOP unless they can convert those two groups. Should be easy with the black vote if they would actually publicize the truth about how the Dems are the party of racism and slavery and how the Dems have hurt them and the inner cities for decades. Then again, what do they call the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting a different result. Why a commercial like that isn't running 24-7 amazes me.
 
Top